Erin-Lynn Lavallee wrote:
Why is it that alot of models think its hot to be like 100 pounds and 5'8?

like cause many are damn hot.
Come on follow along.

I also think many big women are hot.
Usually the one's who have brains and use them.

Thuy Anh wrote:
sounds like a pretty pointless thread to me.  the question is geared towards a personal preference in people.  preferences which are all going to be different with no real answer.

I like when you post.

Thuy Anh wrote:
sounds like a pretty pointless thread to me.  the question is geared towards a personal preference in people.  preferences which are all going to be different with no real answer.

That's what I got from the beginning. Then she turned it into a modeling question.

Ashley_Haven wrote:
Many models don't think its "hot"... that's just the way their body was made, and how their metabolism works. I've been 5'9" and 115lbs since i was 16, and no matter what i eat or how i work out, I stay the same.

I'm comfortable with myself. Period. It's not about thinking it's hot.

Ahh, but you are only 20.  In 10 years you will be my age.  Hopefully you have maintained your measurements and weight (even if you get kids and all). Eh?

Iona Lynn wrote:
OP has no viable market.

Fashion, too old, too short, too fat, scars, piercings.
Comercial, too fat, scars, piercings.
Glamour, scars, piercings, too fat, no nudes.
Art/figure, no nudes.

Exactly.  And it's always those with no viable market  or unwilling to work in the market that they WOULD find work in that love to just piss and moan abotu how fucked up the industry is, how fucked up it is that models are skinny/ fat/ have real boobs/ fake boobs/ do nudes/ blah blah blah.  Same shit, different asshole.

Iona Lynn wrote:
That is not even half of the point of the pathetic thread.
The Shyly is overweight, Shyly is a fat activist, Shyly gets work, Shyly is a muse, Shyly has beautiful thin model groupies who will do anything she askes.
Shyly has spent a lot of time marketing her self,
Shyly has knocked on the doors of many of the best photgraphers in the US.
Shyly knows her market for figure and art modeling.

Shyly doesn't post passive-aggresive threads to surrepticiously vent her anger and frustration.
Shyly has worked with Leonard Nimoy!

Shyly wrote:

I'm hoping you'll hear me, because I have significantly more girth than you do, and if anyone on this website knows what it's like to model when you're atypical, I do. 

Here's the thing: it's really uncool to start a thread using words like "ewww" to talk about a large segment of the community you're trying to be a part of.  Someone did it awhile ago on a thread bashing fat models, and it was really hurtful.  Can you see how the same kind of speech about slender models is equally hurtful to them? 

I really wish we could talk about size acceptance without resorting to negativity about those with different body types. 

I would just like to say thanks for that. As a naturally skinny woman, I've been hounded for so long about my size. I never understood the failure to appreciate beauty in all body types. Makes me wonder what "avarage or medium" sized people have to say. You are great.

Erin-Lynn Lavallee wrote:
Why is it that alot of models think its hot to be like 100 pounds and 5'8?
Honestly i think it look kinda ewww when you see ribs. I'm not jelous just want to know what people see in women this skinny.

Models and actress might not think its hot but they know that when you lose alot of weight, even if it is unhealthy, that you get more work.

Ashley_Haven wrote:

LMAO... omg i think i love you.

You know, since I have been modeling I work hard, and answer casting calls, keep in touch with people and do my best at networking. Runway modeling is not really for me, though I have done a few runway shows. Some of how you carry your weight matters, for instance, Im just over 5'6" and weigh about 135 pounds. Im comfortable in my skin. I used to be very thin, but because of some medical things, I gained a lot of weight. I was 5'5" and about 115 pounds and when I looked at myself I felt like I looked gross. I look better with the weight on, but the confidence I have, and my determination are what impresses people. I'm not full of myself, and the quotes above here I was angry to read. Its not peoples fault if they cant gain weight, or if they can't lose it. (healthy ways Im talking about.) Modeling for people who are a little thicker than your average runway model DOES boost the confidence of people, and it should, otherwise WHY would we do it! I think of this entire business like this, "There will always be someone prettier or thinner, but that doesn't mean I am ugly or fat!" This modeling has done wonders for my self esteem, and to anyone that thinks I may be conceited, I'm not. I'[m just a girl who somehow got a shot at this....I was never the "pretty" girl, but this whole experience has helped me learn to love myself. Model or not, I can look in the mirror now, and see ME. As far as runway goes, you might want to look to work with print ads or something else. But also, give yourself a look and see if you are happy with you. That's what matters. If you aren't happy with yourself, it will show in your work. Take care, and I hope you understand what I mean. To the people above that wrote those quotes, why on earth would you want to bash this person when clearly there is more going on than you know? Self esteem is a wonderful thing to have, to realize, and modeling can be that vehicle. And I'm sorry you can't gain weight, are you unhappy with yourself because of that? I just feel for people on both sides....someone will always have more, be more, but it doesn't mean you're not enough.

Image K wrote:
My biggest peave is watching photographers and models beat the snot out of each other verbally all day long on this site about THINGS THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE.

There will always be creepy, perverted photographers.

There will always be flaky models.

Breast implants are here to stay.

Escorts are a fact of life. LIVE WITH IT.

Some shoot TFP, but it's not for everybody

Some models are thin, others have curves . Both types of models can find work. They just have to look for it.

Some are in this business to make money, others for pleasure. respect that

Some people like nudes, other people are offended by them. It is what it is.

   Beating your head against the wall about things that will never change only drives YOU slowly insane. Certain things are with us forever: death, taxes, seat belt laws, crooked politicians, people that roll through stop signs, etc.

  These things will not go away.

  Face it.

  You'll sleep better.

Thanks for writing that, your point of view is intelligent, and experienced. STOP THE DRAMA PEOPLE! lol...Hey, we're all here for the same thing...why not work together instead of bash each other?

Zorina Seva wrote:

Ahh, but you are only 20.  In 10 years you will be my age.  Hopefully you have maintained your measurements and weight (even if you get kids and all). Eh?

I know you think that was cute, but as a skinny mom, I am begging to gain pounds. It sucks being cold all the time! Let's just say that everyone's body is different and that there are so many different factors that contribute to a person's size, that why bother making assumptions about a person's future size?

Ashley_Haven wrote:
I never said that modeling to help boost your self esteem was bad... but don't come on here saying "eww" about a group of models. If she'd like to boost her self esteem by modeling, so be it... but don't expect your market to be huge, and don't bash a large group of people doing it.

Contact photographers, network... get some great shots. If that boosts your self esteem, then awesome!

I agree, I was actually talking about the photographer you had quoted. The "eww" comment I had forgotten about, and I think that is just as wrong as someone saying eww to heavy models, fetish models, nude models. I have lots of tats and piercings and for some, they dont want to work with that, for others they do. I forgot to say something as well...that the market is overrun with models period! All shapes sizes and looks, you have to bring something new to the table, or like you said, contact people. No one should be on here saying eww to anyone. We are all doing (and hopefully enjoying) pretty much the same thing! Thanks for your words hun. Good luck to you too! Jenn