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Someone (not me) changed one of my pics to 18+. It's a back shot with just the top of the derriere showing. I have no problem with this call, except that it appears to be hypocritical. There is at least one avatar currently on display of a female that is full frontal. Again, due respect, but what gives? Aug 10 05 01:00 pm Link Patience Grasshopper, Patience! (heheh, I love that line) Aug 10 05 01:25 pm Link I am not going to give details, but some of these moderators need to be careful with their new-found powers. Aug 10 05 01:27 pm Link larsomatic wrote: It happened the same thing to me...I dont know why Aug 10 05 01:28 pm Link As you can tell this site is going through lots of coding changes and some things that are supposed to work aren't, and vise versa. Bare with us and things should be much smoother shortly. Aug 10 05 01:51 pm Link To add to what Dan wrote, If it is seen and thought to be nude or no wanted as are promotional pieces that promote off site web sites as avatars then we will change them. Is it confusing? Sure even for us. We are having multiple conversations on the topic every day. That is mostly what is discussed. These grey areas. They are grey areas. And at the moment the pendulum has swung in a certain direction. Yes, Patience, grasshopper, patience. The Moderators are human also. You are welcome to report such things, but there is a line between crying and reporting. Not all of us see the issue the same. So even if we try to come to a consensus it still comes down to the decision of each Moderator on each given occasion. One note though, it is not look upon favorably to take away the 18+ note on a nude photo if you have not discussed it with a moderator. Some promo pieces are being set to 18+ for they are promoting agencies, which are not exactly welcome with open arms at the moment. I am saying this as a moderator but without a consensus view so this is not gospel. But the conversations are going on constantly at this point in an attempt to find a balance with the views of all the new moderators. Thankyou Aug 10 05 01:52 pm Link Dan Hood wrote: I think that's how this whole thing got started! Aug 10 05 01:53 pm Link And i thought they were just after me!! Aug 10 05 01:54 pm Link I would look at it more as someone is watching your ass. The only thing changing it to 18 causes is anybody under 18 cant see it. People who log in can still see it fine so its just saving your butt and the site "In Case" someone complains. In case you ask, yes people have complained here and there. Aug 10 05 01:56 pm Link Thank you all, especially moderators, for your responses. I chose that particular pic as my avatar because it was well within the limits of similar "back views" that were avatars when I first joined and ASSumed it was honky-dory. Aug 10 05 02:58 pm Link CharliesImages wrote: What better way to heal ones complexes then to kiss someones ass to became a moderator and start demonstrating power. Aug 10 05 04:01 pm Link MarkMarek wrote: Maybe I should let this go but I know what I am about to say is important to all the moderators here. Aug 10 05 07:57 pm Link ^^^ Well said! Aug 10 05 08:01 pm Link MarkMarek wrote: well thats offensive... Aug 10 05 08:11 pm Link Doug Swinskey wrote: Here is one who just proved me right and vented his complex on me. Thanks you didn't let me wait too long. I bet you must be scared to leave the computer, cause you might have powers here (and we already know you're well aware of the ways to show it off), but there's whole wide world out there where your MM powers don't reach. Go ahead, mock me some more, cause you can do it - you are the almighty mod. Aug 10 05 09:54 pm Link MarkMarek wrote: It was me that called this up again and questioned you. So ask me. Aug 10 05 10:04 pm Link MarkMarek wrote: you suggested that moderator must have a complex, so much so that we need to kiss up to someone for some psuedo power.. Aug 10 05 10:05 pm Link Marek, Take a step back from this disagreement. Do we all not make mistakes? Are we all not human? I really think your original post was offensive but get to the heart of what is bothering you. We can take it if it is an educated debate not just a back handed attack. Aug 10 05 10:18 pm Link larsomatic wrote: It wasn't me. I didn't mark your image as 18+ Doug Swinskey wrote: I was asked. No way I would volunteer for this. In fact, I turned it down at first. But, then I figured as long as I can just do it at my leisure with no expectations placed upon me for my frequency of "moderating", sure, why not? Aug 10 05 10:35 pm Link Now that your all here why you lock the phantom Zone?? It was already hidden!! And passed all the first moderators examination!! Hugs Jorgen Aug 10 05 10:44 pm Link Hugh Jorgen wrote: Because a few went about making Phantom not 'Phantom" anymore. Aug 10 05 10:51 pm Link Being a moderator is much like being an umpire, an overall thankless job. If everything is running smooth, very few care to thank the moderators or administrators. But as soon as things go astray and disagreeable- find the nearest moderator and off with their head. Everyone should try being a moderator and see how much fun it is. Most moderators do it because they actually care about the site they are on, they certainly aren't doing it for the money or the glory. Robert Aug 10 05 10:54 pm Link MarkMarek wrote: Dear Mark; Aug 10 05 11:27 pm Link MHana wrote: Oh Just Groovy!! Aug 10 05 11:35 pm Link Welcome to my world, boys. Aug 11 05 01:08 am Link bring it on... Aug 11 05 07:36 am Link It is all balance. Pick some good mods. Pick some bad mods. Then we got balance in the force again. Go figure :-) Aug 11 05 07:44 am Link bad mods..."Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" Aug 11 05 07:48 am Link Doug Swinskey wrote: I could really say something here............ Aug 11 05 07:51 am Link MarkMarek wrote: oooh oooh! I know a better way! Aug 11 05 07:55 am Link Since I got a Mod looking here. can you either resticky this thread Copyright, Right to Privacy and Fair Use Links Or explain why you unstickied it in the first place? Since removing the sticky, 3 threads have popped up (or been hijacked) that this thread would have answered for them. There is nothing in this thread that is false or misleading, All the links are legitimate resources to help a photographer and / or Model understand their rights. It does not contain opinions, it contains site links to laws and interpretations from legal experts. Aug 11 05 07:56 am Link Lars..what gives... you have access to this great resource, with only a couple of rules, one of which is "[5] AVATAR. Again, we would like to keep ModelMayhem.com a "work-safe" environment. And since your avatar is open to the public, nudity or any other obscene material ("bloodwork", bondage, etc) is not allowed. If you are unsure if your avatar is acceptable, change it. Simple as that." now being a photographer that loves capturing the female form and enjoys your work tremendously.. i have to wonder what is it you dont understand?... if your model has no clothes..she is nude... ya know you can make the mods look like ball busters.. but if you followed the rules..and you governed yourself, no one else would have to.. just a curious question... Aug 11 05 08:13 am Link What's the big deal with tagging 18+ on someone's image? It's not like the mods are using magic markers to draw panties and bras over your pics. There are models here that are under 18 and if that's the least that the mods can do without offending the "artist" then power to them! Lighten up people. Aug 11 05 08:23 am Link XtremeArtists wrote: Ouch, that's going to leave a mark. Aug 11 05 08:26 am Link MarkMarek wrote: Me thinks somebody (who will undoubtedly deny it) really wanted to be a moderator but couldn't so now is pissing and moaning about it. Aug 11 05 08:33 am Link Dan Hood wrote: Oh Dan, I'm sure that's just a typo, but in the context of this board, it's really quite funny. Bare with us! Aug 11 05 08:35 am Link Eldor wrote: Hey Eldor, MM rules state (shortly) only one ball busting post per spelling error. Your over the limit pal............. Aug 11 05 08:39 am Link Dan Hood wrote: So if I complain about certain people that I think are bad mods, I have this underlying desire to be a mod and am pissing and moaning because I did not become one? Aug 11 05 08:40 am Link I remember when I turned 18 and learned what naked people look like. It was shocking! I know, 18 is the government's rule, not the moderators, but isn't it just ridiculous to think that on day 364 of your 17th year you're innocent and vulnerable and must be protected from ugly sights then on day 365 you're all grown up and ready to deal with the nasty reality that people have nipples and genitals? Even the moderators must conform to the silliness of a puritan society. Aug 11 05 08:40 am Link Dan Hood wrote: Hey Dan... Don't you mean, "You're" over the limit? Aug 11 05 08:41 am Link |
