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model have right to get photos from paid shoot?
Jay Bowman wrote: Said what i've been thinking all along. Sep 15 06 02:15 am Link Depends on what level you are working at. Many commercial shoots where the model is compensated monetarily the photographer or hiring agent gets her a finished image or a tear. However, this is not required or should never be expected as part of the payment. If it is in the agreement in writing, then so be it. However, it shouldn't be a given, more of a added bonus if by chance it does happen. It seems to happen more for land based, as the internet world is something entirely different and standards are also a bit different (sometimes seems like night compared to daytime lol) G'nite MM  Sep 15 06 02:18 am Link Seems a little greedy to me.. Paid is Paid,, if it is money, or if it is photos, or if it is a mix.. If photos are expected then the pay is much less.. Prints are not free, nor is your time... or you would not expect to be paid.. Sep 20 06 09:45 am Link I usually give models prints from a paid shoot as a courtesy. But I definitely don't feel I'm obligated to do so. Sep 20 06 09:56 am Link Doug Mackay DMP wrote: how is it TFP then? Sep 20 06 11:07 am Link e-string is totally right on! Have your list of things to discuss prior to committing to the shoot. If you want digital images or prints or whatever, discuss it in advance... you have a rockin look and if your politie and work hard during the shoot, I don't know any of us who would not give you at least some digital images to use... Sep 20 06 11:20 am Link Shyly wrote: Just another reason why you are a winner, you use logic, you have many photos, that I would have paid you for. Sep 20 06 08:16 pm Link Depends on what you both agreed to before the shoot. What did the contract that you signed say? Sep 20 06 08:42 pm Link SLE Photography wrote: You might get one or two. Most photographers who pay would prefer to limit the shots they were not pleased with. Sep 20 06 09:13 pm Link RedheadRobyn wrote: Well then your one of the lucky ones! RedheadRobyn wrote: What would the photographer care? Did you ever bother to read the Myspace Rules when you signed up? By sigining up with them you agree that any images you upload you give them the rights to use how and as they like!! THAT'S WHAT A PHOTOGRPAHER SHOULD CARE!! A model giving away rights to work she (or he) dosen't own the rights to to start with! Sep 21 06 07:59 am Link I suppose I am beginning to sound like a broken record (Pre CD for the kids online).... but any shoot must be negotiated up front. What is expected from the shoot by both sides. Discussion eliminates everyone being pissed off after the shoot. Put it in writing and move on. Best Regards, Z Sep 21 06 08:05 am Link RedheadRobyn wrote: I would likely not work with a model with these demands and attitude. I'll give this poster the benefit of the doubt and assume that she is discounting her rates to compensate for the images that she is receiving. I doubt it though. "I do ask for data disc of all original images for archive and profile updating purposes only." That's was TFP is for: updating your portfolio. That statement screams PITA model/Pass on her, on to the next model. Sep 21 06 01:56 pm Link Well if I am getting paid (i.e. commercial shoot), then the model gets paid from the client (via the agency). In those circumstance using a tearsheet in your portfolio is the smartest thing to do. Once a client's usage time expires then it's possible I may give a model a copy of a picture I use in my portfolio... but it's not the norm. If I am doing something artistic (or attempting too), and it's on my own time then I prefer a collaboration of effort. I work enough under the "Time is money concept" to avoid its application on the artistic side of things. Then of course I would be more than willing to share usage (with limitations - for instance if you posted images on a site that insists that any posted images on their site become their property) of the images with the person in question. But for the model to expect to get paid from a photographer (sorry but I am not a model's client - there are a couple of exceptions see below) AND receive copies of images... is an interesting concept. I would take a pass on any model who requires those conditions. I do become a model's client when I hire someone to pose in a seminar, or if I am actually doing the interviewing and hiring on an artistic project (say a calendar). I always try to be fair, if I make $$$ as a result of your efforts then to me is seems proper to also pay $$$. If you get copies of pictures from a seminar in which you are paid is up to the photographers who participate (I don't make it a requirement... nor do I push it). They paid to be there, so the pics they have are the result of their time and money. Sep 21 06 02:24 pm Link |
