Rabbit86 wrote:
Ok more to this post actualy i just recieve another email when he say massage he meant he will massage me for time i will pose for him How about this

That could be considered barter- massage for posing- but no, I still think you should say no to that one.

e-string wrote:
Don't shoot with him!!! That's so creepy. You are way too cute to work with jerks like that.

Thank you e-string for too cute comment kisses

Rabbit86 wrote:
Hey thank you all for replay i didnt agree on session from very begining i just tough i share with MM community and see if you my colleges think the same way i do and feel about this kind offers.

Avoid them -- and I'm guessing you'll run into these "offers" again. When working with someone you don't know I suggest you ask for and follow up on references and have a preshoot meeting. At least this guy let you know early on what he's about.

  I wish you luck in your modeling!

  -P-

Rabbit86 wrote:

Thank you e-string for too cute comment kisses

Where are you from?

e-string wrote:
Don't shoot with him!!! That's so creepy. You are way too cute to work with jerks like that.

e-string wrote:
Where are you from?

Born and grow up In poland was just visiting US ( Boston MA) this year, second time and my very good friend find in me model tallent , find me first photographer and make all humanly possible to avoid some "idiots" and meet best professionals during my 3 months stay in US, and now i dont think i can life without it I make a lot of new friends ad photgraphers and also he stay with me on every session no metter where it was happend in Boston or Alaska without no financial interest in it only to help me out.
Most folks say i am lucky i gues i am
Love to pose nudes just let some nice music flow and you cant make me put my cloth's on
love to pose with another cute girl for art nudes, i wish e-string i would live close by we would make nice shoot toughether i am shure.

Rabbit86 wrote:

Born and grow up In poland was just visiting US ( Boston MA) this year, second time and my very good friend find in me model tallent , find me first photographer and make all humanly possible to avoid some "idiots" and meet best professionals during my 3 months stay in US, and now i dont think i can life without it I make a lot of new friends ad photgraphers and also he stay with me on every session no metter where it was happend in Boston or Alaska without no financial interest in it only to help me out.
Most folks say i am lucky i gues i am
Love to pose nudes just let some nice music flow and you cant make me put my cloth's on
love to pose with another cute girl for art nudes, i wish e-string i would live close by we would make nice shoot toughether i am shure.

And I'd be very happy to take them ! And I don't barter for massage either! Again, I wish you the very best for your modeling; I'm sure you'll do well!

  -P-

Rabbit86 wrote:
Love to pose nudes just let some nice music flow and you cant make me put my cloth's on
love to pose with another cute girl for art nudes, i wish e-string i would live close by we would make nice shoot toughether i am shure.

And likes costumes, too.
O god. She may be the photographer's dream... but of course, wrong side of the country again.

What are you guys putting in the water over there?

Pat Thielen wrote:
And I'd be very happy to take them ! And I don't barter for massage either! Again, I wish you the very best for your modeling; I'm sure you'll do well!

  -P-

Let's do it! heehee. And I'LL barter for massage with her. No cameras allowed for that part, however.

e-string wrote:

Let's do it! heehee. And I'LL barter for massage with her. No cameras allowed for that part, however.

Well, you know I'm not really a "glam" photographer anyway. It'd be something interesting and differant. And trust me; no-one wants to get a massage from me. I'm really not very good at that sort of thing.

  -P-

Angelica Perry wrote:
Thats gross, That literally makes me sick that this phtographer would even insinuate that, that is not at ALL professional and there is no need for that to happen at all. I say you save that email in case he ever tries anythign again and DO NOT reply. What a creep..

Agreed. People like this makes everyone look bad, and you know he doesn't represent the majority of photographers. Still, it only takes one. And just because the OP has listed her interests as nude and some adult work this in no way implies she's interested in exchanging massage (or whatever else) for her time. Personally I'd love to work with her; she sounds very uninhibited and creative which are awesome qualities for a model to have. It's just very unfortunate some people think that because of this she's also open to "other" forms of barter. This is indeed pathetic...

  -P-

e-string wrote:

Let's do it! heehee. And I'LL barter for massage with her. No cameras allowed for that part, however.

Damn e-string where u been last 3 months we would fly to your city for this meeting hehe tough i still lke to take some photos with you, my friend can do this for us , but just and idea of massage hmmmm make me .....welll you know

Rabbit86 wrote:

Damn e-string where u been last 3 months we would fly to your city for this meeting hehe tough i still lke to take some photos with you, my friend can do this for us , but just and idea of massage hmmmm make me .....welll you know

Can you two take this to off-topic? Some of us really don't need to know about this!

 

Pat Thielen wrote:

Can you two take this to off-topic? Some of us really don't need to know about this!

 

Pat Thielen wrote:

Can you two take this to off-topic? Some of us really don't need to know about this!

 

Um, hold on... speak for yourself...

Pat Thielen wrote:

Agreed. People like this makes everyone look bad, and you know he doesn't represent the majority of photographers. Still, it only takes one. And just because the OP has listed her interests as nude and some adult work this in no way implies she's interested in exchanging massage (or whatever else) for her time. Personally I'd love to work with her; she sounds very uninhibited and creative which are awesome qualities for a model to have. It's just very unfortunate some people think that because of this she's also open to "other" forms of barter. This is indeed pathetic...

  -P-

Hehe Pat thank you for very close discription of me, i know it not nice saying good thing about youselfe but it true, when we at photo shoot my friend bring MP3 with my favorites if he see that photographer  strugling to find pose for me, all he do is hook up Mp3 turn it on and then all hell get loose when photographer asking me during break to put cloth's he usualy ge answer " why boder we doing nude shoots i am ok with it"
my friend like to add something :
Dmitry: Hehe hello MM comminity, she is amazing imaging this cutie during break walking to photographer who aks her to put cloth on if she like and she just sit right there next to him looking at PC how he uploading images, or  ban over hes shoudler and look on screen just like this "only wearing what she born in" photographers usualy drop what they doing and take some sexy shoot right there Or photgrapher ulpoading photos and i trun on music she nude start dancing all over studio , playing with chairs, pols etc ...i dont need to tell what photographers do next they garb camera and go for it

J Schumacher wrote:
.........................  sigh.

...ditto....that almost got me looking around for my passport.

Rabbit86 wrote:

Hehe Pat thank you for very close discription of me, i know it not nice saying good thing about youselfe but it true, when we at photo shoot my friend bring MP3 with my favorites if he see that photographer  strugling to find pose for me, all he do is hook up Mp3 turn it on and then all hell get loose when photographer asking me during break to put cloth's he usualy ge answer " why boder we doing nude shoots i am ok with it"
my friend like to add something :
Dmitry: Hehe hello MM comminity, she is amazing imaging this cutie during break walking to photographer who aks her to put cloth on if she like and she just sit right there next to him looking at PC how he uploading images, or  ban over hes shoudler and look on screen just like this "only wearing what she born in" photographers usualy drop what they doing and take some sexy shoot right there Or photgrapher ulpoading photos and i trun on music she nude start dancing all over studio , playing with chairs, pols etc ...i dont need to tell what photographers do next they garb camera and go for it

Actually, most of the time when I work with nude models they don't bother getting dressed when we're taking a break or I'm showing them work on the computer. Usually they are very comfortable with nudity -- or they wouldn't be modeling nude in the first place. These are the people I like working with most as they are the most natural and uninhibited (whether we're shooting clothed photos or not). I don't ask models to adapt "adult" poses or anything like that, but I do prefer them to be natural and uninhibited. I'd encourage you to keep doing what you're doing and be a muse for the people you model for. If ever you find yourself in Minnesota let me (and E-String) know !

  -P-

  -P-

J Schumacher wrote:
.........................  sigh.

Hmm is that mean bad or good, forgive me silly alien

e-string wrote:

You teeeeeze!

 

Rabbit86 wrote:

Hmm is that mean bad or good, forgive me silly alien

That means I'm very sad that you are so far away from me, so we can't shoot.

markcomp wrote:
Many of the photographers here work other jobs.  It is possible that he is a licensed masseuse. 
If he were bartering to paint your house you probably wouldn't bat an eye.

That being said, be cautious and check references.

Thanks -- this is actually a very good point. I was very quick to assume the photographer meant "no good" as did a few others. I have to remember to respond to facts and not emotions... Do'h!

  Having said this, I can understand the reaction as offering a massage at a photoshoot is a bit on the odd side. It's not something I'd consider to be professional behavior. If a model were to offer me a massage in exchange for a CD I'd run away just as fast... Really, I would.

  -P-

markcomp wrote:
Many of the photographers here work other jobs.  It is possible that he is a licensed masseuse. 
If he were bartering to paint your house you probably wouldn't bat an eye.

That being said, be cautious and check references.

Perhaps, but I'm up to level II Reikii, but I'd never suggest it to a model.  I'd toss in an offer to build her a website, though - that is what I do as far as my daytime job - but there's something that logic and reasonable behaviour would dictate a massage or something of that personal or intimate nature is inappropriate to bring up as a "in leau of payment".

Pat Thielen wrote:

Thanks -- this is actually a very good point. I was very quick to assume the photographer meant "no good" as did a few others. I have to remember to respond to facts and not emotions... Do'h!

  Having said this, I can understand the reaction as offering a massage at a photoshoot is a bit on the odd side. It's not something I'd consider to be professional behavior. If a model were to offer me a massage in exchange for a CD I'd run away just as fast... Really, I would.

  -P-

Well, I guess I respond from the standpoint of having a number of clients who do physical therapy for a living.  I get a massage once a week and it really is an honorable job that is worthy of barter.  lol

RRCPhoto wrote:

Perhaps, but I'm up to level II Reikii, but I'd never suggest it to a model.  I'd toss in an offer to build her a website, though - that is what I do as far as my daytime job - but there's something that logic and reasonable behaviour would dictate a massage or something of that personal or intimate nature is inappropriate to bring up as a "in leau of payment".

Tell my wife that the gal I get the massage from is being intimate with me. lol
It's a job.