Maxim wrote:
And, I would never photograph a model who is a smoker.

that would leave out at least half of the world's top models.

Winn Photographics wrote:
If a non-smoker comes into the smoking section of my favorite resteraunt and tells me to stop smoking, what can I say but they are invading my space and can therefore go to hell.

Someone at another site posted a story about their granny --

She rarely got out of the house, was in a wheelchair with an oxygen tank at a party or some social gathering.  There she is smoking like a chimney.  Someone comes up to her all militant saying something to the effect, why are you smoking, dont you know thats why you're on an oxygen tank?  She says, dont you know if I turn this valve right here I can blow us all to kingdom come?  Now shut the fuck up!

LOL.  Fiesty old gal.  I respect that.

Capt Stu Beans wrote:

that would leave out at least half of the world's top models.

haha, yeh I bet it would.  I don't and hate the stink it leaves behind on people and things.  I would think it'd coat the cameras too like some of you had mentioned.

Winn Photographics wrote:
For defense of the smokers (of which I am one) Yes, I smoke in my studio. It is well ventilated and I only do this during a shoot if the model, and whomever else is in the studio at the time, are smokers also. Filthy habit... yes. Disgusting... yes. Unhealthy... most definatly. Am I going to quit or make some bullshit attempt at quitting just to please the anti-smoker movement... Not a chance. Do I force my smoke on non-smokers... no way. If someone tells me that my smoke is bothering them, I have no problem finding another place to smoke. If a non-smoker comes into the smoking section of my favorite resteraunt and tells me to stop smoking, what can I say but they are invading my space and can therefore go to hell.

I'll give you the "smoking section of the restaurant" thing, but..

If you don't *know* that someone is a smoker, then assume that it's going to be bothersome to them.  You also say that you don't force your smoke on non-smokers, but.. I bet I could find you smoking in high-traffic areas, and near doorways.. asserting your "right" to do so rather than worrying about being polite to your fellow man.

Yes?

Demarcus Freeman wrote:
If you don't *know* that someone is a smoker, then assume that it's going to be bothersome to them.  You also say that you don't force your smoke on non-smokers, but.. I bet I could find you smoking in high-traffic areas, and near doorways.. asserting your "right" to do so rather than worrying about being polite to your fellow man.

Yes?

No actually... As a former resident of California I was quite used to there not being ANY smoking section in resteraunts, bars, etc. which did put all of the smokers right out in front of the door coming in. Bad idea. I will admit that there is always the chance that I could be smoking in a public area that is legal to smoke in but not designated as a smoking section, but I believe i mentioned that I have no problem moving to a diferant location if someone says that it is bothering them.

Cybil wrote:
Do many photographers smoke while shooting?  Just laugh at me if this is a ridiculously stupid question.  Thanks!

I'm a smoker, and most of my work is shot outside, as opposed to in the studio, so it would make sense that I might smoke while shooting.  But I find it difficult to get my face in the viewfinder with a smoke hanging off my lip.

Digital Basement Studio wrote:
People still smoke?????

Maybe they haven't heard.

Actually they print it on every pack... but maybe we can't read.

missing fingers product wrote:
i think most studio owners wouldnt allow it plus cig smoke sucks.

Tobacco smoke is an acquired taste.

Amy J Jones Photography wrote:
It puts a film on your lens that is hard to get off.  Wouldn't recommend it.  Plus, it's just unpleasant.

You are supposed to smoke cigarettes. You don't rub them on your lens.

Allen Coefield wrote:
1.  A non smoker would have to sit in a 15x15 ft room for 40 hours a week for 16 years to inhale enough 2nd hand smoke to equal one cigarette.  So much for the 2nd hand smoke BS huh?

I read somewhere a rant of a person that said she hates when people smoke at a bus stop and that is so unhealthy.

I was like, ok bitch (I didn't really say bitch, I just thought it). You have a choice of being locked in a garage with a smoker and a running bus. Which one would you choose?

Winn Photographics wrote:
No actually... As a former resident of California I was quite used to there not being ANY smoking section in resteraunts, bars, etc. which did put all of the smokers right out in front of the door coming in. Bad idea. I will admit that there is always the chance that I could be smoking in a public area that is legal to smoke in but not designated as a smoking section, but I believe i mentioned that I have no problem moving to a diferant location if someone says that it is bothering them.

Smoking outside the door to a restaurant/business in Cali is illegal.  You have to be something like 50 feet away from all main entrances and thoroghfares. Problem is that nobody bothers to enforce or follow anything but the most obvious parts of the law. 

Unless you're in a designated smoking area, then it is safe to assume that smoking anywhere public with other people around is going to be bothersome.  It's kind of like saying.. I'm going to walk the streets with my boombox playing at 120db, and I'll continue to do so unless someone expresses their discomfort.  Problem is.. you knew way before that that your behavoir was going to be a problem for *someone*, and you decided to do it anyway.

It's taking a reactive approach which only remedies the problem after the damage has already been done(because it's your *right* to do so), rather than taking into account the preferences of others and being proactive(and polite) about things.

Allen Coefield wrote:
Have people not heard the studies that have come from the U of Miami school of medicene?
1.  A non smoker would have to sit in a 15x15 ft room for 40 hours a week for 16 years to inhale enough 2nd hand smoke to equal one cigarette.  So much for the 2nd hand smoke BS huh?
2.  Smokers are less likely to get colds because they are more likely to take deep breaths this expanding thier lungs and keeping out pockets of lung that hold bacteria that develop colds.
  Tobacco does not cause cancer.  The preservative chemicals American tobacco companies coat tobacco in can do so.  Rather than ban the cigarettes they need to ban the chemicals.  It has worked well and produced better products in Europe

Are the same people who fuss anc complain about cigarette smoke getting in thier hair and clothes the same folks who gather in the back yard and stand around during a cookout?  Those chemicals are must more dangerous to breathe than cigarettes, but they dont say anything about them do they?
OOpps
I think I will allow cook outs in my studio just to piss people off

Lol, did you get that right off a Lucky Strike packet?

No...someone on omp told me

Demarcus Freeman wrote:
Smoking outside the door to a restaurant/business in Cali is illegal.  You have to be something like 50 feet away from all main entrances and thoroghfares.

And that is one of the reasons I choose to no longer live in Cali. I admit, there are some rude smokers. There are also polite smokers. There are are polite non-smokers and there are rude non-smokers. The rude non-smoker is the one I have little sympathy for. The ones that go out of their way to approach a smoker smoking in an area it is legal to smoke in and then bitch about the smoke. I didn't ask them to join me and they were not there when I lit up. They made the choice to approach a smoker (and I'm not referring to me standing in the doorway of the entrance to a public building) and then complain.

Besides, you and I have gotten away from the topic of smoking during photoshoots.

Fotticelli wrote:
I do. Can you believe people will say stupid stuff like: Oh it makes my hair smell bad, Oh, my clothes will smell.

Can you believe how rude some people can be?

*raises hand*  That would be me.

I'll add to that:
- the smoke is acrid
- it makes me cough
- it burns my nose
- it stinks

To put it into perspective:
You may not think that a fart is harmful, but you'd be up in arms if a stranger put his ass in your face and let one go.  Now just think how pissed you'd be if that smell(you hate) was going to stick to you and your clothes for the next few hours.  How about if somebody with the worst BO you've ever smelled sat down next to you on a plane and it wasn't his seat?  Would you take offense and complain, or would you endure it simply because it's his right to stink?

Cigarette smoke is acrid, funky, and offensive just like many, many of the other odors in this world.  I for one, would prefer to never have to deal with any of them ever again.  I'll make you deal just cus I like you.  You keep your offensive odors to yourself, and I won't fart in your face and rub my BO on your forehead.

Allen Coefield wrote:
I pay for the building....I will smoke.  If someone doesnt like it....either deal with it, pay the building payment or ask me politely to wait until after the shoot. 
   As for the health concerns and smoking in public....I will quit smoking and parade around the country in defense of non smokers when the bug spray called perfume is banned from public places and when msg and other preservatives are banned from foods.  In the mean time....light up.

You're right.  There are alot of bitter self-centered assholes out there who are more interested in their own rights than what they could do to improve things for their fellow man.  Furthermore, we should all hold off on doing anything polite and/or productive until everyone else is, because personal responsibilty and morality don't apply to the individual unless the world around us is perfect.

It's why we live in the utopia that we do.  Yay.

Allen Coefield wrote:
No...someone on OMP told me

Ah good.  Then it *must* be true.