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Ramifications of being caught nude in state park?
Has anyone have an information to share regarding if laws and ramifications for nudity in a state park are any different than the laws and ramifications that govern anywhere else? Aug 02 06 12:07 pm Link The Things Ive Seen wrote: It depends on the state and it depends on the park. Aug 02 06 12:17 pm Link and the Park Ranger and how hot the model is and how you handle it and..... Aug 02 06 12:23 pm Link unless its a nude state park, it would be indecent exposure and possibably lewd acts. If your state has "decency laws", watch out because they cover little things like cussing and spitting and might have something about being nude in public.... do they even have nude state parks? I mean theres nude beaches... Aug 02 06 12:27 pm Link I was in a state park in Calif. We got caught. Ranger Rick said for the model to get dressed and for us to get out and then he left. I told the model that Ranger Rick will be back in 3 minutes and if she is not dressed and we are packing up off to jail she will go. 3 minutes later he came back and she was fully dressed and we were packing up. He watched us leave the park. So he was pretty cool about it but was firm that we get out NOW. bs Aug 02 06 12:30 pm Link REPhotography wrote: It is interesting because the OP is not in California, but you and I are. So I can't comment on Wisconsin law. Aug 02 06 12:38 pm Link I was shooting a model in a state park with 4 other girls.( We started out in a state park) The model was totally dressed. One of the other girls pissed off the ranger...he started it and kept asking the girls out...he left...so we thought...never asked us to leave...hundreds of other people also around shooting kids...picinics...etc He came back with the federal marshals and I got a $600 ticket for creating a public event on federal land. Guess we cross onto federal land when we left the picinic area. Another local photographer had to go to court because he got a $3500 ticket because a ranger saw his model change clothes in a federal park. His fine was reduced but as he decribes it was a pain in the ass. Aug 02 06 12:45 pm Link Ask George Michael  Aug 02 06 12:46 pm Link Like the others, I know nothing about the laws where you are. I also do not know if this place is a state park or how far you are from it, but you can check out http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/9011/mazo.html Mazo Beach is a known and accepted clothing optional area. Woods, beach, water and a nude model. What more could you want?  Aug 02 06 12:47 pm Link I've never been kicked out of a state park, but I've been kicked out of a cemetery! Aug 02 06 12:52 pm Link The Things Ive Seen wrote: Hello...................I really cant say but I have taken some risque topless images in a park last year.................almost got caught and it was worth it...............but you do have to be careful and make sure that no minors/kids are nearby...................... Aug 02 06 12:58 pm Link eh...who cares what the law is, just take a chance and do it. If you get caught and worse case scenario, thrown in jail (HIGHLY unlikely) then call up your local paper, tell them all about it, and I'm sure they'd do a story about it. The publicity will make you famous. More then likely however, if you get in trouble it's not going to be worth the officers time and they'll just tell you to leave. I've been caught a zillion times during photo shoots. Most people end up apologizing to me and the model for interupting rather then the other way around. Once or twice I've been told to move along and once I was put in hand cuffs. Of course, in that particular case I was attempting to photograph a nude on the side of a church on a busy street so I guess I deserved that one. Aug 02 06 05:41 pm Link The Things Ive Seen wrote: Now why would a photographer want to shoot in the nude in a park? ; P Aug 02 06 09:43 pm Link The Things Ive Seen wrote: Brian Egendorf wrote: I was wondering the same thing. Is this one of those photoshoots where the model is dressed and the photographer is nude? Aug 02 06 09:58 pm Link Entry fee for a day in the nearby state park: $5 Court fees and fine for getting caught naked in the park: $100 Look on the rangers face as he busts out laughing at your little dingaling: ...Priceless! for everything else, theres Master Card. Aug 02 06 10:50 pm Link im gonna keep on saying it until people actually pay attention GET THE DAMN STATE PARK STILL PHOTOGRAPHY PERMIT and if you really want to "be cool" get the state park MOVIE FILM permit, then you can even crash a 747 into the park Aug 02 06 10:52 pm Link Billy Pegram wrote: You Americans need to start fighting for your freedom at home. Aug 02 06 10:56 pm Link One model I worked with did some "implied nudity" for her shoot in the woods in this park near her neighborhood. You can see the pics in my gallery (the Amanda Pendergraph photos), and while I don't mean to "kill the illusion", any shot you see her covering her chest with her hat, she actually still has her tanktop and bra on and it's all just hidden under the hat. However, her and I have been talking about doing more risque shots in my relatives' swimming pool in the privacy of their backyard. She says she enjoys being a tease, but I still like to make sure it looks more artistic and sensual rather than always flirty... although the one color "topless" photo of her in my gallery with her having her finger on her lip was her idea :-b Aug 02 06 11:01 pm Link B2 Pictures wrote: I did some shots in a public city park here in Orlando with a model who was "topless" and because the environment was uncontrolled and we would've gotten arrested if she'd been nude even WITH our shooting permit, I got her some of those skin-toned stick on faux bra cups. That way if her hands slipped or she dropped her hat or whatever she was still covered. Any small peeking edges were easy to cover. Aug 02 06 11:52 pm Link The ramifications for my getting caught naked in a State park? Depends on how the press chose to handle it, and were the mosquitos biting? Aug 03 06 01:39 am Link I live just outside of Joshua Tree National Monument, a federal park, and when I have been there with models I have checked with the rangers to see if there is a location they suggest for us to use. I have yet to run into any problems other than hikers who want to sit and watch while the model is undressing or topless. It's my belief that if you approach things in the right manner you will not have any problems. So ask permission, get the right permits, and check your locations before you "ASS-U-ME" anything. Aug 03 06 08:52 am Link The Things Ive Seen wrote: As a fellow Wisconsinite who spends a lot of time in state parks, I might be able to shed a little light on the situation. Legally, under Wisconsin State law you (or the model) could be charged with public nudity. I've looked over the state laws on the subject, and Couldn't find any more than that... thgough if you wanted to look, here is Wisconsin's Legal Code: http://folio.legis.state.wi.us/cgi-bin/ … e_Frame_Pg Aug 03 06 09:32 am Link I shoot right outside my studio all the time. Smashbox is across the street and I've seen them with girl just about nude on the corner shooting. I've had motorcycle cops stop and peep my nude shoots. I think they love it. I dont know the law in Cali, but it seems in my little artsy corner of the world we are left alone for arts sake. States parks? I have no idea, but I wanna! Cause nature shoots rule! V Aug 03 06 09:42 am Link the man will just want to take a pic with you so he or she can show to their buddies. kidding . theyll probably want to know what your doing and if its against the law to walk around nude ie. indecent exposure youll probably get a warning , fine or arrested. depends on state , county laws. thats why theres legal nude beaches and parks. Aug 03 06 09:49 am Link For everyones information I am shooting a nude/swimsuit shoot at Koehler Andres State Park just south of Sheboygan WI. Rolling white sand dunes, beautiful water. The park opens at 6:00am and I plan to be there at that time. As you can tell by looking at my portfolio, I am no stranger to shooting nudes outside, in fact the one shot of the girl lying on the train tracks was across the street from the "Worlds Largest Brat Fest" earlier this year. I've also shot nudes in countless state parks, including Koehler Andres, between here and California. I've taken my share of risks and intend that this shoot will be no less risky. We are going to be right out in the open where the water meets the shore. No trees, no nothing to block anyones view. I have never been caught by any law inforcement in the countless outdoor shoots I have done, I also don't plan on it happening this weekend. Never the less... What I was hoping to achieve from this thread is some additional knowledge to use as my defense should we be caught. Are the laws in a state park any different than laws outside a state park? I don't need a ranger threatening me with laws that don't really exist, but are only being fabricated to scare me/us. Knowledge is power. The only thing I ever heard about public nudity is that someone has to report actually being offended by it and then the authorities are obligated to take action beyond a warning. My goal, get some great shots and be no more an expert on getting caught than I am now. Aug 03 06 12:46 pm Link I don't know about that but I do know that a model I photographed was fined $300 for being nude at a state beach. I paid the fine since I was the one who took him there but I can only guess that there would be a similiar fine. Aug 03 06 12:49 pm Link One word of caution -- things get very ugly if one of you isn't a U.S. citizen. Think deporting. Aug 03 06 03:28 pm Link The Things Ive Seen wrote: As I mentioned before, the state parks here are operated and policed by DNR agents, lthough, they are law enforcement officers. There are state laws against public nudity, but as far as I can tell the DNR doesn't have any additional restrictions other than the state statutes. Aug 03 06 05:04 pm Link state parks fall under federal laws, not local. EDIT: mad this was a responce to your post. It was just a general comment on the threat topic. Aug 03 06 05:09 pm Link I've photographed two models topless/semi-nude in a local city park. We have just got there very early in the morning for the good light & to avoid other people. We also used a more remote section of the park. I've also had an assistant with a walkie-talkie patrolling outside the shoot area to warn us of if anyone approached. Aug 03 06 05:11 pm Link Stephen Dawson wrote: We screwed up our own country so much we have no choice but to find other places to screw up. It gets boring making laws on top of laws to take away our rights at home.. Aug 03 06 05:12 pm Link Peter Dattolo wrote: Hmmm, I think you have it backwards. State parks fall under state law. Federal parks are also governed by state law as well. Aug 03 06 06:20 pm Link I dunno, but as an aside, a couple of years ago a model was posing nude in a city park in Atlanta, where the Bible belt buckles. She saw a police car stop nearby, behind the photographer's back. She commented that the police had arrived and quickly dressed. She became a bit confused when she saw the cop laughing like mad, until she spotted the photographer. All she could see was his heels, butt and camera bag which was flopping in the wind as he set a new record for the 100 yard dash. That brave photographer was long gone when the cop gave her a ride to a local bus line. Models, know your photographer! Aug 03 06 06:34 pm Link Heh... if that's true, then noboby better tell the federal government about our legal code here: According to the Wisconsin legal code, capter 27.01 " It is declared to be the policy of the state legislature to acquire, improve, preserve and administer a system of areas to be known as the state parks of Wisconsin." Although later it does mention "...Enter into agreements with the federal government, the government of neighboring states, state departments, counties, towns, scientific societies, organizations, individuals or others on any subject considered of concern and benefit to the state parks." Peter Dattolo wrote: Aug 03 06 09:07 pm Link Brian Egendorf wrote: I find it very freeing. You should try it sometime... Aug 03 06 09:10 pm Link makes me glad to: a) be in ontario, where at least being topless is legal, ANYWHERE, and, b) have 30 acres of forest, ponds, and hills in the niagra escarpment as a family property. Aug 04 06 08:29 am Link If you want to know about nudity in state parks in Wisconsin, particularly, contact the Naturist Society in Oshkosh. Aug 04 06 09:59 am Link Secluded spots with limited access, a trusted assistant, and a good pair of walkie talkies (with fresh batteries) --- the combination to success. Oops, what's that tumpa thumpa thumpa sound???? Aug 04 06 01:40 pm Link Not only state, but local obsenity laws may also aply. Better talk to Ranger Rick first. Aug 04 06 01:46 pm Link Doug Lester wrote: That's funny!! Aug 05 06 04:09 am Link |
