Forums > Modeling > Good/Bad Agencies in Los Angeles...

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

hey all....

thought it might be a good idea to start a 'agency check' thread for llamas who are based in L.A. or planning to come and want to check out agencies to work with.

if you're signed already, were signed, employed or have directly involvement with the agency somehow, please share your experiences with any L.A. agency...good, bad or otherwise.   tell us how much you're working or not working.   are you getting the quality of bookings you expected or do you feel like more can be done for you.

here's a few agencies to get this discussion started....


BMG llamas
http://www.bmgmodels.com/losangeles

Click
http://www.clickmodel.com

Elite
http://www.elitemodel.com/

Ford llamas
http://www.fordmodels.com

L.A. llamas
http://www.lamodels.com

Minx llamas
http://www.minxmodels.com

Next
http://www.nextmodelsusa.com

Q llamas
http://www.qmodels.com

Sirena llamas
http://www.sirenamodels.com

Wilhelmina
http://www.wilhelmina.com

Models International/IModel

Feb 05 10 11:48 am Link

Photographer

MartinImages

Posts: 3872

Los Angeles, California, US

I would add Photogenics to this list...

http://www.photogenicsmedia.com/

Spinoff agency of the Smashbox organization (studio, makeup).

They're boutique but very cool.

B

oh...and Vision

http://www.visionmodelmanagement.com/

Feb 05 10 11:52 am Link

Photographer

Bright Candle Photo

Posts: 1247

Los Angeles, California, US

Im surprised your not agency signed Kellie

Feb 05 10 12:27 pm Link

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Bright Candle Photo wrote:
Im surprised your not agency signed Kellie

i am signed.  (on more than one continent).   just want to know what's going on out there.

xoxo
smile

Feb 05 10 12:52 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

I would not say this or that agency is good or bad. Its not what one agency can do
for other llamas. Its what one agency can do for you; as an individual.
Big or small, an agency that gets you paid work is good.
Don't believe the hype, Results are what matter.

Feb 05 10 01:54 pm Link

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Philipe wrote:
I would not say this or that agency is good or bad. Its not what one agency can do
for other models. Its what one agency can do for you; as an individual.
Big or small, an agency that gets you paid work is good.
Don't believe the hype, Results are what matter.

thanks for this but looking for some specific feedback.    clearly, i'm not too impressed with the results i've been getting so far.   thus, the reason for this thread.

xoxo
smile

Feb 05 10 01:56 pm Link

Photographer

Bright Candle Photo

Posts: 1247

Los Angeles, California, US

Kellie Krave wrote:

i am signed.  (on more than one continent).   just want to know what's going on out there.

xoxo
smile

Sweet! I was a little thrown off by your question, but you cleared it up. smile

Feb 05 10 06:59 pm Link

Model

Deadlynightshade

Posts: 4774

Los Angeles, California, US

martinimages wrote:
I would add Photogenics to this list...

http://www.photogenicsmedia.com/

Spinoff agency of the Smashbox organization (studio, makeup).

They're boutique but very cool.

B

oh...and Vision

http://www.visionmodelmanagement.com/

What's the meaning of boutique agency?

Feb 05 10 09:50 pm Link

Photographer

291

Posts: 11911

SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US

Deadlynightshade wrote:
What's the meaning of boutique agency?

very limited acceptance.  must fit into the mode the agency directs its marketing effort toward.  they can range from entry-level low end getting started to high-end exclusive as a first to turn to for certain looks.  what they are not is an agency that caters to a wide range of model-talent bookings.  think niche.

Feb 05 10 11:14 pm Link

Model

Deadlynightshade

Posts: 4774

Los Angeles, California, US

Ah okay! Thanks for clearing that up

Feb 06 10 01:54 am Link

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

surely someone has some agency experiences to share???

xoxo
smile

Feb 06 10 08:44 am Link

Photographer

J T I

Posts: 6051

San Diego, California, US

Kellie Krave wrote:
i am signed.  (on more than one continent).   just want to know what's going on out there.

xoxo
smile

Which agency are you signed with in Los Angeles?

The best models, in my opinion, that I have worked with here are LA Models, Q, Elite, or Ford. (I haven't worked with Next - but I've seen some great models from there).

Feb 06 10 08:57 am Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Philipe wrote:
I would not say this or that agency is good or bad. Its not what one agency can do
for other models. Its what one agency can do for you; as an individual.
Big or small, an agency that gets you paid work is good.
Don't believe the hype, Results are what matter.

+1

Feb 06 10 09:00 am Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Jason Todd Ipson wrote:

Which agency are you signed with in Los Angeles?

The best models, in my opinion, that I have worked with here are LA Models, Q, Elite, or Ford. (I haven't worked with Next - but I've seen some great models from there).

Bad apples come from every tree.  Just remember, the bigger the tree more apples it has, so higher odds of bad ones wink

Best models I've shot are from the boutique agencies.

Feb 06 10 09:01 am Link

Photographer

J T I

Posts: 6051

San Diego, California, US

K E S L E R wrote:

+1

Can I go +1 too?

Also - you have to find an agency that can represent what you do.  An agency can't help if you're not sellable for the market they represent.

Feb 06 10 09:02 am Link

Photographer

J T I

Posts: 6051

San Diego, California, US

K E S L E R wrote:
Bad apples come from every tree.  Just remember, the bigger the tree more apples it has, so higher odds of bad ones wink

Best models I've shot are from the boutique agencies.

I think the best models you've shot are because you're great... and can push them.  I've seen you get publishable results from ugly models.  That's you - not the agency. 

But you're right - it is hard to polish a turd - not saying models are a turd - but if they can't model, it's hard to get results (sometimes).

Feb 06 10 09:03 am Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Jason Todd Ipson wrote:
But you're right - it is hard to polish a turd - not saying models are a turd - but if they can't model, it's hard to get results (sometimes).

Very true, kinda like how every tall model wants to be a fashion model lol

Feb 06 10 09:06 am Link

Photographer

MartinImages

Posts: 3872

Los Angeles, California, US

Deadlynightshade wrote:

What's the meaning of boutique agency?

Boutique means smaller roster.  There's a couple agencies that are HUGE and you don't get a lot of personal attention, IMO.  But sometimes those really big agencies get lots of inquiries.  Tough call sometimes which is better. 

B

Feb 06 10 09:07 am Link

Photographer

J T I

Posts: 6051

San Diego, California, US

Hey Kellie - just read you're local now.  Welcome to LA.  Which agency are you signed at here?

Feb 06 10 09:17 am Link

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Jason Todd Ipson wrote:
Hey Kellie - just read you're local now.  Welcome to LA.  Which agency are you signed at here?

thanks Jason!  smile

well, i don't want to say just yet.   i created this thread to kinda "fish" for some unbiased feedback.     

xoxo
smile

Feb 06 10 11:03 am Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Kellie Krave wrote:

thanks Jason!  smile

well, i don't want to say just yet.   i created this thread to kinda "fish" for some unbiased feedback.     

xoxo
smile

almost every model to run into will most Likely give you biased feedback about their agency, especially of they are booking jobs. If not then they'll probably be bitter and tell you their agency sucks and what not. Kinda hard to sift through the BS.

If you want to go agency shopping I would try Otto, especially if ur looking to get away from the erotica business smile

Feb 06 10 11:48 am Link

Model

Deadlynightshade

Posts: 4774

Los Angeles, California, US

I've heard good and bad things about most of the agencies here. So it's hard to say because everyone has an opinion.

Feb 06 10 12:47 pm Link

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Deadlynightshade wrote:
I've heard good and bad things about most of the agencies here. So it's hard to say because everyone has an opinion.

guess that's what i am looking for.   

opinions welcome!

xoxo
smile

Feb 06 10 04:02 pm Link

Model

Aswald

Posts: 3471

Detroit, Michigan, US

With all of the agencies listed above should I even bother with email submissions or should I just do snail mail?

Feb 06 10 04:21 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

Heres the thing.. When I first started shooting. A few photographers said Otto models was not good. But some of the most working models I've met were through Otto.
So what does it mean?
Don't believe what you hear.

I also met a model who said she use to be signed with Ford, she her agent offered her coke and speed to help her lose weight. When I asked who her agent was, she said "um I forgot" So that may have been a lie.

I remember one model saying "I could never sign with L.A. models, I don't like Peter"
The next time I shot her she called the guy shes living with to let him know when she was coming home. When she hung up her cell phone she said "He wants you to shoot some head shots of me" When I asked who it was, she said "Oh its Peter"

So what I have learn is that
One thing has nothing to do with another.
Don't bad mouth an agency that may get you work in the future.

One model who gets rejected will say "oh that agency sucks"
But will sign with them in a heart beat.

If you want gossip, tales or stories.
Or "hey never work or get signed by this agency"
Most likely told by a scorned model.. Who is bias.

Want to know a bad agency?
When they offer you the world and ask to for you to sit on his casting couch..

Feb 06 10 04:46 pm Link

Photographer

Jean Renard Photography

Posts: 2170

Los Angeles, California, US

LA is also unlike any other market in the world since many folks have several agencies, They will have Krista rep them for runway, a print agency, a commercial agency and a legit agent for those that do acting (some even a voice over agent) and many of those who act will have managers in the mix as well.

I have found that there is little packaging that goes on anymore and a model that is not on the path will probably not be invested in to get her there so talent in LA can flounder while everyone hopes something will hit, but no one makes it happen (including the talent, who often is not pro-active enough to do it for themselves).

Some agencies simply do not have the relationships with the bigger clients though they can keep you busy yet your career will not go anywhere, but your rent will be paid. (for a little while at least)

It all depends on what you want.  This is a harder market than NY as it does not have a clear cut definition.

Feb 06 10 05:27 pm Link

Model

Jessica Fan

Posts: 125

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Hey yeah i'm with MI and i love it. everyone there is really really nice and helpful and i love how they call me "little jessica" lol!

Feb 06 10 09:55 pm Link

Photographer

Star

Posts: 17966

Los Angeles, California, US

M has a bloated women's and men's boards, taking on way too many people that have no real business being taken on.

Feb 06 10 10:04 pm Link

Model

Aswald

Posts: 3471

Detroit, Michigan, US

Post hidden on Feb 07, 2010 01:48 am
Reason: not helpful
Comments:
Again, please start your own thread.

Feb 06 10 10:13 pm Link

Photographer

Andy Pearlman

Posts: 3411

Los Angeles, California, US

I think you missed a few. Most of the ones you posted are primarily fashion oriented, here are a few that are more commercial although they do some fashion, usually sportswear/swimsuits/fitness. They've all been around for many years and the first one, CESD, is very big with an office in NY and does a lot of fashion as well as commercials, voice-over, runway, etc. Brand has been in OC (ok, not strictly LA) for at least 20 years and over the years represented many high-profile non-fashion models like Cindy Margolis and Brooke Burke when they were doing catalogs and ads. I've had friends with all of them, no bad stories that I can think of. Remember, LA is also a film town, and many of the models with these agencies are also (usually) struggling actors for film, tv, and commercials, usually with other agencies, although some of these agents have commercial(s) departments as well as print.

http://www.cesdtalent.com/divisions/go/Models-Print/LA

http://www.brandmodelandtalent.com/

http://www.pacifictalentandmodels.com/

http://www.peakmodels.com/

http://dominiquemodelandtalent.com/

Feb 06 10 10:19 pm Link

Model

Deadlynightshade

Posts: 4774

Los Angeles, California, US

there is also Pinkerton

pinkertonmodelandtalent.com

Feb 06 10 10:44 pm Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Andy Pearlman wrote:
http://www.brandmodelandtalent.com/

Interesting... they used my photo as the cover banner for their runway division, I'm not even sure if the model I shot is even with that agency?

Feb 07 10 01:29 am Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30211

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

it is highly unllikely that anyone in the industry or who hopes to be in the industry is going to dish the dirt on any agency simply for the purpose of some internet discussion

Feb 07 10 01:34 am Link

Photographer

DELETED-ACCOUNT_

Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

K E S L E R wrote:

Interesting... they used my photo as the cover banner for their runway division, I'm not even sure if the model I shot is even with that agency?

Uh-oh....

It wasn't hard to spot either amongst the other work....

Feb 07 10 01:34 am Link

Photographer

DELETED-ACCOUNT_

Posts: 10303

Los Angeles, California, US

Garry k wrote:
it is highly unllikely that anyone in the industry or who hopes to be in the industry is going to dish the dirt on any agency simply for the purpose of some internet discussion

I would imagine that this is a conversation best suited for personal settings.  I hear models bitch all the time about random agencies here, but I never see it in the forums (which makes sense).

Feb 07 10 01:35 am Link

Photographer

lll

Posts: 12295

Seattle, Washington, US

I don't think any one would, or should, dish their "opinions" in this place.  Who wants to burn their bridges, post here.  It's kind of like that.

Feb 07 10 01:50 am Link

Clothing Designer

Baanthai

Posts: 1218

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

It's very, very interesting that only one model so far has responded to the OP's query. I can speculate as to why...but I'm not sure of the reason. OP-you're an experienced agency model. Why do you think you're not getting the response you wanted?

-Jenny
www.houseofthailand.com

Feb 07 10 01:54 am Link

Model

Jordan James Hall

Posts: 168

Los Angeles, California, US

I can only speak to the agencies that I have experience with.

M Model Management (not to be confused with Models International or M Intl.) is a fantastic agency. I have an excellent relationship with both of my agents and have booked some solid work from them. I do not believe their board is bloated or weak, I have seen some incredible models with them and they book big jobs.

Brand Model Management in Orange County is solid as well. Many of the models represented by Brand are also represented by other agencies in Los Angeles, hence the overlap of models sometimes. They have some different clients and some of the same, but I know models who have booked large jobs through Brand and they have been nothing but great for me.

Hope this helps.

Feb 08 10 01:35 pm Link

Model

Deadlynightshade

Posts: 4774

Los Angeles, California, US

lll wrote:
I don't think any one would, or should, dish their "opinions" in this place.  Who wants to burn their bridges, post here.  It's kind of like that.

+1

And agencies read these forums! Also models on here talk to their agencies. You should be careful with what you say on an internet forum just as you would in real life.

Feb 08 10 02:11 pm Link

Model

Kellie Krave

Posts: 333

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Deadlynightshade wrote:

+1

And agencies read these forums! Also models on here talk to their agencies. You should be careful with what you say on an internet forum just as you would in real life.

definitely not afraid to speak my mind to someone's face or here.    when i spot bullshit or am treated bad, i will speak on it.    any who know me, know this is definitely true.

there shouldn't be any fear of agencies.   they work for us.... we don't work for them.

Feb 19 10 01:31 pm Link