BCI Photo wrote:
The magic is created through the lens, not in PS.

I disagree!  The "magic" is created in the mind of the photographer, who uses all tools and resources availble to them to achieve the desired result.

Trelane wrote:

I disagree!  The "magic" is created in the mind of the photographer, who uses all tools and resources availble to them to achieve the desired result.

Oh please,
You can want to capture the most mentally stunning visual image in the world, but if you don't have the proper equipment, location and/or model, your "vision" will not come out right.

Trelane wrote:
I disagree!  The "magic" is created in the mind of the photographer, who uses all tools and resources availble to them to achieve the desired result.

BCI Photo wrote:
Oh please,
You can want to capture the most mentally stunning visual image in the world, but if you don't have the proper equipment, location and/or model, your image will not come out right.

Oh please,
You can want to create the most stunning image in the world, but if you can't visualize it, even if you have the proper hardware, location and/or model, your "vision" will not come out.

In other words: There are a lot of things that are necessary but not sufficient: concept, camera, lens, location/set, subject, styling..... Arguing about postprocessing is too similar to the Nikon/Canon, liberal/conservative, or Protestant/Catholic feuds to be useful: nobody's going to convince anybody, and it just annoys everyone else.

Delivery should be based on agreement between the parties involved. If the photographer delivers a CD or prints 2 days after the shoot, but the agreement was for 1 day--it late. If the agreement was 2 months, and the CD/prints are delivered in 45 days--the photographer's early/on-time. That holds true for TFP/TFCD or paid shoots. As someone mentioned earlier: underpromise and overdeliver.)

BCI Photo wrote:

You can want to capture the most mentally stunning visual image in the world, but if you don't have the proper equipment, location and/or model, your "vision" will not come out right.

I'm glad we agree.  I consider all the tools at my disposal to be "proper equipment"; this includes post processing software.

INever wrote:
It's photography, not photoshopography.

But anyway, closer to the topic...what do you do if all the pictures on a TFP just suck.

You make a low rez CD send it to the model, tell her you are sorry for f*cking up and ask her to shoot again.