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NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

I really want to know honest answers to this. Because frankly, I am just baffled.

I first came into contact with this person by scanning the search for my area, he was relatively new, and I dropped him a tag and a few comments into his port to say welcome and hello, being the nice person that I am.

Then I recieved a note that read as follows:

"hey nc-

nice nips. would like to see more.

thanks,

(name with held to protect...er... well. Name is just with held)"

Ok, so males (I can't single out photographers here, even though he was... this is more of a male thing...) I want to know if this kind of approach ever works with a lady? Has any guy used this type of um, come on (? for lack of a better word...?) and had a lady reveal more? Does this ever work? Or am I just the strange one that finds this type of approach to be quite a turn off.


And ladies, I would like to know if any of you would respond positively and give him what he wants to see. Are there any of you that would show him more images?

I am very curious to know how this kind of a situation would play out amongst others. I certainly don't appreciate this kind of approach, its pretty crude in my opinion, and I find it lacking in simple respect.

Opinions welcome!

May 19 06 08:11 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Reese Photography

Posts: 21622

Brandon, Florida, US

I think he was a jerk.

May 19 06 08:14 pm Link

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Vector 38

Posts: 8296

Austin, Texas, US

it's sad to see that that type response is going out and, much as i like to be non-judgemental, i too would be turned off by that kind of message.

close the door, accept that the 'Net has some strange characters, exercise your best common sense, and move on.

best wishes for better in the future!

fml

May 19 06 08:14 pm Link

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Wynd Mulysa

Posts: 8619

Berkeley, California, US

NC17 wrote:
I really want to know honest answers to this. Because frankly, I am just baffled.

I first came into contact with this person by scanning the search for my area, he was relatively new, and I dropped him a tag and a few comments into his port to say welcome and hello, being the nice person that I am.

Then I recieved a note that read as follows:

"hey nc-

nice nips. would like to see more.

thanks,

(name with held to protect...er... well. Name is just with held)"

Ok, so males (I can't single out photographers here, even though he was... this is more of a male thing...) I want to know if this kind of approach ever works with a lady? Has any guy used this type of um, come on (? for lack of a better word...?) and had a lady reveal more? Does this ever work? Or am I just the strange one that finds this type of approach to be quite a turn off.


And ladies, I would like to know if any of you would respond positively and give him what he wants to see. Are there any of you that would show him more images?

I am very curious to know how this kind of a situation would play out amongst others. I certainly don't appreciate this kind of approach, its pretty crude in my opinion, and I find it lacking in simple respect.

Opinions welcome!

Yuck.  Maybe he meant to say "pics."  He probably feels very embarassed.
Or he's just a douche.  :0).

May 19 06 08:14 pm Link

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DeannaSB

Posts: 69

Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada

No I would not respond to this...would you show him more if he walked up to you in a bar and said this to you???I think not!!!

May 19 06 08:16 pm Link

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A BRITT PRO-AM

Posts: 7840

CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US

course it doesnt work

why they all keep trying this?
becuase they are jerks
and they dont even expect it to

its thinly vielled hostility, not a compliment

ps
On a simlar note :Have you gals ever passed by someone in the street / wherever and actually thought they look really cute or something...
then they turn around with some horrible sound or nasty line - so you are now OBLIGED to walk away??

LOL

Aways a shame.


Happens a lot in Europe...anyway!

May 19 06 08:16 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Maybe it has something to do with your name being NC17....

May 19 06 08:20 pm Link

Photographer

Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Must resist urge to say..... Hey NC, nice nips!


Damn... slipped out.

May 19 06 08:21 pm Link

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Mickle Design Werks

Posts: 5967

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Well it wouldn't be my first reply back to you, but I guess it attracts the kind of gal he wants to deal with otherwise it's a pretty stupid thing to say as a reply back to you.

While I can see is preoccupation with your nipple (quite lovey I must also agree), I am an ass man myself. And regarding the beforemention behind.....Ah, I remember a nice sunny summer morning in Georgetown.....

https://www.mickledesignwerks.com/images/ginny_CO%20Canal.jpg

May 19 06 08:26 pm Link

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Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

Highly inappropriate based on the caliber of your work.  Internet scum. - Just scrape it off your shoe and move on. smile

May 19 06 08:26 pm Link

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A BRITT PRO-AM

Posts: 7840

CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US

ps

Not to criicise at all but maybe the flirting on your page is the reason here though...


''I have a very naughty NC17 rated center.
Try me...you'll like. Promise.''


So what is NC 17 ?
it made me think if Star Trek....

;-)

May 19 06 08:27 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Mickle Design Werks wrote:
While I can see is preoccupation with your nipple (quite lovey I must also agree), I am an ass man myself. And regarding the beforemention behind.....Ah, I remember a nice sunny summer morning in Georgetown.....

I see your point. Hey NC, nice butt!


(MY inside voice has taken control of my hands! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!)

May 19 06 08:28 pm Link

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Rick Edwards

Posts: 6185

Wilmington, Delaware, US

he's a punk ass bitch!

May 19 06 08:29 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Anjel Britt wrote:
ps

Not to criicise at all but maybe the flirting on your page is the reason here though...


''I have a very naughty NC17 rated center.
Try me...you'll like. Promise.''


So what is NC 17 ?
it made me think if Star Trek....

;-)

NC 17 is the rating that comes after R in the movie rating system.
Usually used for Gratuitous sex. It is the replacement term for what used to be the X rating... well we all know what that is.

May 19 06 08:31 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Nemi wrote:

NC 17 is the rating that comes after R in the movie rating system.
Usually used for Gratuitous sex. It is the replacement term for what used to be the X rating... well we all know what that is.

I think it is less about gratuitous sex, and more about explicit sex, but in the context of an actual movie. And I beleive it also covers other territory that is considered too strong for younger viewers.

The straight up meaning is that no one under the age of 17 is allowed to enter the theater, even if they have an adult with them.

May 19 06 08:36 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Mikel Featherston wrote:

I think it is less about gratuitous sex, and more about explicit sex, but in the context of an actual movie. And I beleive it also covers other territory that is considered too strong for younger viewers.

The straight up meaning is that no one under the age of 17 is allowed to enter the theater, even if they have an adult with them.

You are right.

May 19 06 08:39 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Nemi wrote:

You are right.

You made my day! I mean, some men can go a lifetime before being told by a woman that they are right! wink

May 19 06 08:42 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Anjel Britt wrote:
Happens a lot in Europe...anyway!

Which region in Europe are you talking about?

BTW, situations like what you describe happens a lot in Italy or Southern France, you know, the whistling and comments and less common in Northern Europe.

You are from GB and should know the difference of "aggressivness" if you compare GB and Italy for example.

May 19 06 08:42 pm Link

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NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Nemi wrote:

NC 17 is the rating that comes after R in the movie rating system.
Usually used for Gratuitous sex. It is the replacement term for what used to be the X rating... well we all know what that is.

You are correct about the NC17 reference. My life is often a duality between those people that are aware of my connections to many adult things, and those that are not. Theres not a thing wrong with this, and I happen to enjoy it.

I am curious to know when tasteful flirting acceptably warrents rude and lewd behavior? Why is that acceptable? It suddenly becomes acceptable for a man to be rude and lewd when a woman expresses her sexuality and sensuality in a playful manner? How did I miss that memo? Why do people continue to further this double standard?

For whatever it is worth, I am not angry, upset, enraged or otherwise pissed off at the person that sent me the message. Saddened that they, for whatever odd reason, assume that it would actually *get* them somewhere, yes. But not angry.

I did send him a simple response that only said "pardon me" since I wanted to be sure that I clearly understood exactly what he was after. The only thing I recieved in response was "more nudes" and that was IT. I politely sent him a response directing him to my profile to find my rates, and informed him that nothing comes for free.

I really was curious to know if other males actually thought this was an acceptable approach, and WHY. I can't fathom to think of why any male would get any positive response from a woman using this type of tactic.  I don't mind getting occassional cat calls, whistles or "damn she's fine" type comments. They simply make me smile under my breath and move on. But an attempt such as this is really just plain rude and disrespectful.

You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

May 19 06 08:43 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

UdoR wrote:

Europe is not a country, you know... there are different countries, different languages and way different manners and customs.

Which region in Europe are you talking about?

BTW, situations like what you describe happens a lot in Italy or Southern France.

Thay dunt teach us sillay americanz about differnt cuntries.
We r geographicly retardeds.

May 19 06 08:44 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

NC17 wrote:
You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

But is he using vinegar, or some nasty sugar substitute that no self-respecting fly would touch?

May 19 06 08:45 pm Link

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ADG Photography

Posts: 544

Calhoun, Georgia, US

Perhaps after you get to know someone, and depending on the type of relationship you have, comments like that would be no big deal.  They might even be welcomed.  But to say (write) such things to a relative stranger is just crass.  Just my two cents.

May 19 06 08:47 pm Link

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NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

And yes, I remember a certain morning along that canal... Lovely morning, if not for the bugs smile

May 19 06 08:48 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

NC17 wrote:
I really was curious to know if other males actually thought this was an acceptable approach, and WHY. I can't fathom to think of why any male would get any positive response from a woman using this type of tactic.

and I am telling you why...sexual beings are more willing to show off the goods. Imply you are one, and people will be inclined to ask for more.

NC17 wrote:
...You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

You'll catch more cooch with porn than nuns.

May 19 06 08:48 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Nemi wrote:
You'll catch more cooch with porn than nuns.

How many drinks have you had tonight? wink

May 19 06 08:49 pm Link

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g2-new photographics

Posts: 2048

Boston, Massachusetts, US

It was simply boorish.

May 19 06 08:55 pm Link

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A BRITT PRO-AM

Posts: 7840

CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US

sooo cool
after coming here many years and living in CA since last September i finally get someone here who knows and get them to say it!! Europe is not a country!! yay thanks Udo!

ps
I meant all over, European Stylie, as compared with USA ... I'm sure the men here are more polite - what with the guns and everything - but Let Me Say that LONDON IS practically Europe these days! Hardly any one English left!!!
As for aggressive - Hmm Italian men are bolder and harder to get rid of in my experience yes...but thats neither here nor there in my remark
re
i am just sooo disappointed if the guy is tacky or rude - Say he speaks English and says something really  naff or crass - what are we gals supposed to say??
OH ALRIGHT THEN LETS GO

;-) I dont think so!

May 19 06 08:56 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Mikel Featherston wrote:
How many drinks have you had tonight? wink

I have pulled 5 all nighters out of the last 7 days, I have also consumed WAY to many sweet&lows today....I suppose that would produce an awesomely drunk effect.
*shrug*
Siiiiiiiiiiiip, hmmm fake sugar. *twitch*

May 19 06 08:58 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Nemi wrote:
Siiiiiiiiiiiip, hmmm fake sugar. *twitch*

So do you attract more flies? wink

May 19 06 09:00 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

Mikel Featherston wrote:
So do you attract more flies? wink

Only the non-self-respecting ones.

May 19 06 09:02 pm Link

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NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Nemi wrote:

Only the non-self-respecting ones.

*laughs* Who would want self respecting flies anyway???

May 19 06 09:07 pm Link

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Catriona

Posts: 3674

Portland, Oregon, US

Dear NC,

You rule.

Love,
Me.

Okay, seriously...everything you said was so right on. What makes men think such an approach will be successful? It's like when you walk down the street and some guy has to yell "Hey, nice tits!" or something along those lines. What kind of response is he expecting, that you'll rip off your clothes right there and do him in the street? Has anybody ever heard The Story of How The Parents Met where Mom is all, "Well, he told me I had great nipples, and next thing you know we were walking down the aisle!" GAH.

Though, to go a bit off-topic, the comment about "fakey sugar" also rang a bell... There's a photographer in my area who is ALWAYS gushing about how I'm soooo beautiful, I should model full-time and make a ton of money, always trying to rub my back and hug me when he sees me, etc. When I told him, after he asked me "what turns [me] on about a guy" (EW), that people who load me with superficial compliments turn me off, he whined that I don't like "guys who are nice" to me. Um...there's a difference between being genuinely nice, and being fakey-fake "nice" to try to get into someone's pants, and a smart girl CAN tell. I'm not the only one who has run into photogs like this, am I?

May 19 06 09:08 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Anjel Britt wrote:
sooo cool
after coming here many years and living in CA since last September i finally get someone here who knows and get them to say it!! Europe is not a country!! yay thanks Udo!

Well... maybe because I was born and raised in Euroland tongue

May 19 06 09:08 pm Link

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David Birdsong

Posts: 1789

Pontiac, Michigan, US

As a breast man, I have admitted before I am very impressed when I see a a photo of some great breast...
But I do keep my Wow's and Holy Smokes, look at that rack comments to myself.
I might leave a comment that I like a shot or something to that affect, but to come right out and say Nice  tits or what ever is just plan rude and crude.
For a guy to leave NC a comment of Nice nips is just that... Rude and Crude.

May 19 06 09:11 pm Link

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Dark Star Photography

Posts: 254

Portland, Maine, US

Nips?  Has he been watching Seinfeld reruns?  Really, who the hell even says "nips" anymore??  Never respond to losers like that because it only encourages them.  And remember that the guys who send messages like that are universally living in their parents' basements and attending Star Trek conventions.  PS:  Name the guy.  Why protect him???

May 19 06 09:17 pm Link

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Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

Dark Star Photography wrote:
PS:  Name the guy.  Why protect him???

Against MM policy, I think.

May 19 06 09:23 pm Link

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A BRITT PRO-AM

Posts: 7840

CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US

UdoR wrote:
Well... maybe because I was born and raised in Euroland tongue

those damned foriegners !!!!!!!!!!!!

May 19 06 09:31 pm Link

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Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

He said that to get a reaction so.... yes it does (and did) work.

May 19 06 09:32 pm Link

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SKPhoto

Posts: 25784

Newark, California, US

Were I in a pool hall...

...and had consumed some alcohol...


...I might compliment a particularily flirtatious female player...


...by saying  "Nice rack".


Scrape this guy off the bottom of your shoes.  He's probably not even 18.

May 19 06 09:33 pm Link

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NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

David Birdsong wrote:
As a breast man, I have admitted before I am very impressed when I see a a photo of some great breast...
But I do keep my Wow's and Holy Smokes, look at that rack comments to myself.
I might leave a comment that I like a shot or something to that affect, but to come right out and say Nice  tits or what ever is just plan rude and crude.
For a guy to leave NC a comment of Nice nips is just that... Rude and Crude.

Thats the defining thing: I don't care that you're admiring, hell, its NICE to know that someone admires. Ginuine complements go a very long way to make me smile and feel good. Even flustered complements are ok to a degree (depending on the situation). However, crude and lewd comments are not acceptable, and will pretty much guarantee that I'll go pull on the biggest fluffiest unsexiest sweatshirt I have at that point. You get less than nothing when you're rude to me.

Be nice to me, and kind, a little humorous, and flirty (without overstepping your bounds... I have a boyfriend, and several partners in fact... so don't go there), and you'll likely get something out of the deal...

I'm confident and comfortable in my sexuality. Complements are welcome. Rudeness is not, and that applies across the board to whatever I'm involved in - sex or not.

May 19 06 09:51 pm Link