C R Photography wrote:
Woah! Nothing screams "Sue Me" louder than a threat of premeditated slander.

In the immortal words of Perry Mason, "In any action for slander, the truth is a valid defense."

Star wrote:
If you have applied for a shoot, gotten the information for the shoot, and confirmed your date and time a week ago please don't think "well if I don't respond to the photographers emails after that they will know I am not coming."

That is the worst type of flaking. You are putting not only the photographer but the other models, the MUA and hairstylist out. You are also letting the photog promise one thing and deliver another.

I had a similar situation with a client recently.

We've made an appointment two weeks ahead and the client didn't respond to either my emails or phone calls for confirmation.

Since I didn't get any feedback, I had to cancel the MUA and fashiondesigner for the fitting about 36 hours before, since I found it irresponsible to hold their time without having any callback or email answer.

The day the fitting was supposed to be (day before the shoot) the client called me and asked if all is set for Saturday? (Fitting was supposed to be Thursday, shoot on Friday!)

So, we had to reschedule the whole shoot.

The moral of my story is that I think communication is paramount, especially in the days before a shoot and that is for all parties involved.

If any of the participants of the shoot is contacting the "director" (photographer) the photographer and all the other ones have to respond to each other and frankly, I see no reason why one of the parties should simply be ignored.

But, a model who "cancells" the shoot by ignoring email should be told off and left in the dirt!

Star wrote:
Just lost a model for tomorrow, Jumper, because he booked paid work. So on the website it would look like this

Model: Jumper
Notice: Email, 24 hour
Reason Given: Booked paying work

90% of the 'models' on this site aren't 'Proffessional Models' anyway, some goes for the photogs...I'd say less then 10% of the people on this site actually earn their living from Modeling / photography/MU etc...so unprofessional nehaviour is expected from most...it's what happens when you use the words TFP and non pay. The reverse situations also occur. I have been contacted numerous times by various photogs who want to shoot with me, shoots are planned..even dates set...then they dissapear etc....FLAKE CENTRAL! The only people that are assured not to flake are pro's..because they are getting paid (actually..even pay doesn't preditermine non-flakeyness!!) Just double book as usual Babe, and if one doesn't show..there is someone there to cover...
p.s. MUA's flake also...it's happened to us....

rachelrose wrote:
Paid jobs always will trump non-paid jobs and I make that very clear when people ask me to test. Even 24 hours notice (which is usually about as much notice as I get for jobs) is understandable.

This is why I don't book a lot of tests.

See that makes sense. If it was something important to me I would probably not book you alone, BUT, when a model contavts me. I set something up and nothing in his port or his messages lets me know he is still looking for other work well that ticks me off

Star wrote:

See that makes sense. If it was something important to me I would probably not book you alone, BUT, when a model contavts me. I set something up and nothing in his port or his messages lets me know he is still looking for other work well that ticks me off

I just dont think that you should hold a paying gig against somebody. I mean, it's not like all the money is wasted. You could always just reschedule or find another model to fill in. There have been shoots that I have initiated that I have had to cancel before, because of paid work. I just think that a flake list, might backfire on you and that a lot of models would not be interested in working with you. I mean, god forbid their car breaks down or something and they can't make it to the shoot, thats obnoxious enough but then to have to worry about somebody posting about it on the internet is just icing on the cake. I don't worry too much about flakes because I don't test a whole lot and when I do it is with agency models and photographers who have relationships with the agencies. So if a girl has something come up... there are like 5 other options a phone call away.