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Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Samantha Green wrote:
I took it off, thanks for the advice. Any more anyone wants to shoot me is welcomed. I'd like to make myself more marketable and desirable, as much as I can anyways, since I'm specialty plus.

Thanks smile

Hire a hair/makeup person for your shoots. I'd also say I don't too much care for the first picture it's not doing anything for you INMO.

Aug 29 07 10:37 am Link

Photographer

Michael Anthony

Posts: 2290

Glendale, California, US

Devon Marie wrote:
Damnit, the Torrid search isn't coming anywhere near here. The only places are California, Florida, and the East coast. Driving to Florida the third weekend in September is kind of tempting, though.
Hey Michael, what the heck? Tell Torrid that Wisconsin is the cheese and beer capital of the US. Everyone here is plus size. Why wouldn't they start their search here? Use your influence to get a stop in Milwaukee. I'll blow them away.

well, we do 4 cities a year and have the whole country to tour... we had a bunch of girls from WI drive into our Chicago search last year, and one of the winners was actually from WI...

sometimes, travelling in is a good thing... one of the current finalists from the San Francisco event flew in from Texas for the audition... both of last year's Philadelphia winners were from NJ and NY...

one of last year's finalists in Charlotte made the trek from Tennessee or was it Alabama...

anywho, point is, if you think you got what it takes, make the trek out... you never know until you try, right?

like has been said many times before, "It's an investment in your future."  take the bull by the horns, and create your own destiny...

:::END OF PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:::

now back to my usual nonsense...

Aug 29 07 10:57 am Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Do you know how happy i'd be if I called McDonalds and said... I don't wanna get up to get to ya, can ya bring the food here and they actually did it!!!!


I'd probably be like... 20 lbs heavier lol!!!

Aug 29 07 10:59 am Link

Model

Samantha Green

Posts: 710

Wahpeton, North Dakota, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:

Hire a hair/makeup person for your shoots. I'd also say I don't too much care for the first picture it's not doing anything for you INMO.

Added a new one to replace it - any better?

Aug 29 07 11:07 am Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Samantha Green wrote:

Added a new one to replace it - any better?

I'm not really feeling your hair. The photographer did a reat job with the lighting!

Aug 29 07 11:11 am Link

Model

Samantha Green

Posts: 710

Wahpeton, North Dakota, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:

I'm not really feeling your hair. The photographer did a reat job with the lighting!

Was really windy in the Dakotas out in the country ... kinda sucked.

Aug 29 07 11:14 am Link

Model

Samantha Green

Posts: 710

Wahpeton, North Dakota, US

Okay, how about this one?

https://img9.modelmayhem.com/070829/10/46d58d825e64b_m.jpg

Aug 29 07 11:20 am Link

Model

Jasmine E

Posts: 385

New York, New York, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:

There's so many top high fashion models, I would expect a higher number of top plus models, and someone that absolutely blows me away. I'm not blown away for some reason... Yes I know i'm going to hell but... can people use another plus model besides Crystal for everything? Share the wealth! *hides in the corner*

I guess i'm ready to see DLO or Jasmine L in a show like that!

Oh, I'm Totally ready for that tooo!! big_smile

Crystal Renn gets a lot of attention because she has a really high fashion look that works just about anywhere editorial. Plus, she's got a "story" about how she battled an eating disorder and almost died from it. I'd like to have a story of my own to get my face out there, but ... No luck so far (lol).

Aug 29 07 11:23 am Link

Model

Jasmine E

Posts: 385

New York, New York, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:
Do you know how happy i'd be if I called McDonalds and said... I don't wanna get up to get to ya, can ya bring the food here and they actually did it!!!!


I'd probably be like... 20 lbs heavier lol!!!

Mmmmm ... McDonalds. I don't remember the last time I had a good bunch of french-fries. I could sure use some right now (Thanks to Nadi tongue)

Aug 29 07 11:29 am Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Jasmine L wrote:

Oh, I'm Totally ready for that tooo!! big_smile

Crystal Renn gets a lot of attention because she has a really high fashion look that works just about anywhere editorial. Plus, she's got a "story" about how she battled an eating disorder and almost died from it. I'd like to have a story of my own to get my face out there, but ... No luck so far (lol).

I understand that but... I still like to see Variety. *sits in a corner by myself*

Aug 29 07 11:37 am Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Jasmine L wrote:

Mmmmm ... McDonalds. I don't remember the last time I had a good bunch of french-fries. I could sure use some right now (Thanks to Nadi tongue)

yerrrrrrrrrrrrrrmy!

Aug 29 07 11:39 am Link

Model

Michelle Renee

Posts: 1073

Los Angeles, California, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:

There's so many top high fashion models, I would expect a higher number of top plus models, and someone that absolutely blows me away. I'm not blown away for some reason... Yes I know i'm going to hell but... can people use another plus model besides Crystal for everything? Share the wealth! *hides in the corner*

I guess i'm ready to see DLO or Jasmine L in a show like that!

I watched the show with a friend and we pretty much disected ever minute and really were taking notice of the styles of walking, and was a bit surprised at how many blondes were used. A little lack of diversity in my opinion. I think Crystal is beautiful, all the other models must have been at least 5'11" as crystal appeared noticably shorter. I know she is listed as 5'9". Is is possible she is a bit shorter??

Kate Dillon was stunning.

Aug 29 07 11:45 am Link

Model

Jasmine E

Posts: 385

New York, New York, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:

I understand that but... I still like to see Variety. *sits in a corner by myself*

Who are YOU tellin!! Get outta that corner girl!

Did you get that burger and fries yet?

Aug 29 07 11:46 am Link

Model

Jasmine E

Posts: 385

New York, New York, US

Michelle Renee  wrote:
I watched the show with a friend and we pretty much disected ever minute and really were taking notice of the styles of walking, and was a bit surprised at how many blondes were used. A little lack of diversity in my opinion. I think Crystal is beautiful, all the other models must have been at least 5'11" as crystal appeared noticably shorter. I know she is listed as 5'9". Is is possible she is a bit shorter??

Kate Dillon was stunning.

The lack of diversity is really the only thing that bothered me with the show too.

I'm pretty sure some of the models are shorter or taller than their "comp-cards" say.  But I think they pretty much keep that info on the low down. (hehehe)

Aug 29 07 11:51 am Link

Model

Stacie Delaine

Posts: 2559

Huntington Beach, California, US

good morning smile

Aug 29 07 11:53 am Link

Model

Michelle Renee

Posts: 1073

Los Angeles, California, US

Jasmine L wrote:
But I think they pretty much keep that info on the low down. (hehehe)

Haha, yes, I am seeing that. I often think I could easily get away with 5'10" as I am a bit over 5'9", but I do not think anyone would buy that I grew another inch.

Aug 29 07 12:12 pm Link

Photographer

kevbailey

Posts: 3130

Hemet, California, US

SWEETFACE SHOTS wrote:
Do you know how happy i'd be if I called McDonalds and said... I don't wanna get up to get to ya, can ya bring the food here and they actually did it!!!!


I'd probably be like... 20 lbs heavier lol!!!

Can you just imagine.  home delivered cinnamon melts.   Aaaahhhhh yes

Aug 29 07 12:21 pm Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Jasmine L wrote:

Who are YOU tellin!! Get outta that corner girl!

Did you get that burger and fries yet?

No lie, i'm about to leave to get one lol!!!

That's why I said, I expected more top models. Ford and W have alot of pretty diverse plus models and that's all that made it to that show? Ya'll said it first, so I feel better lol!!!

Aug 29 07 12:38 pm Link

Photographer

S

Posts: 21678

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

This is probably going to upset some people, but I'm officially stymied, and I gotta ask.

What is specialty plus, exactly?  Is it just a made-up label for models who aren't plus models, and who aren't content with just being plain old models, either?  Is there a definition?  Are there clients who request specialty plus in their castings?  Do agencies sign girls who call themselves this?  Does it describe a modeling demographic that consistently makes money?  Is it used just to soothe the ego?  What's the deal?

Aug 29 07 12:59 pm Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Sita Mae Edwards wrote:
This is probably going to upset some people, but I'm officially stymied, and I gotta ask.

What is specialty plus, exactly?  Is it just a made-up label for models who aren't plus models, and who aren't content with just being plain old models, either?  Is there a definition?  Are there clients who request specialty plus in their castings?  Do agencies sign girls who call themselves this?  Does it describe a modeling demographic that consistently makes money?  Is it used just to soothe the ego?  What's the deal?

I guess it's the same reason models call themselves alternative/goth models.

It explains, i'm bigger, I model clothes and am not a BBW model. A quick term among peers, not labeled for industry standards.

Aug 29 07 01:09 pm Link

Model

Samantha Green

Posts: 710

Wahpeton, North Dakota, US

Ask Chanel Renee - she works with several specialty plus models.

Aug 29 07 01:26 pm Link

Model

Samantha Green

Posts: 710

Wahpeton, North Dakota, US

Nevermind, took it upon myself to find a blog she had posted regarding this found at: blog.myspace.com/buxomentertainment

Here goes:


There has been much debate the past few months over the terms BBW Model and Plus Model.

10 years ago the term BBW meant something positive. A big beautiful confident woman. Now, it means something very different.
The term applies to 300lbs and up, it's used to describe a fetish, it's used to describe fat women who do porn, and more importantly... We've learned that BBW does not always mean BEAUTIFUL.

The term BBW is thrown around all over the place. And with the popularity of the internet and sites like MySpace where people are free to be whomever they want to be without rules and standards, it is used by just about anyone and everyone who is female and fat.

So what about the term Plus Size?
Your clothes are labeled Plus Size, therefore you are a plus size woman. Right? Sure... for the common folk. But in the world of Plus Size Modeling. That label is not always accurate.

The plus size fashion industry does not recognize women who don't fall into it's very strict (and conservative) guidelines.
For the most part, Plus Models are 5'8" and up, sizes 10-18 (and in some cases, 18 is pushing it.) Toned bodies, flatter tummies, minimal stretch marks, minimal arm flab, preportioned bust and bottom, etc.
In other words, industry standard Plus Models aren't a whole lot different than a model like Tyra Banks.
Unfortunately, there aren't nearly as many beautiful women who fit the bill, therefore the Plus Size Modeling Industry is small, tight knit, conservative, and some would say snobby.

So, what about all the beautiful plus size women who are a few inches too short or a couple sizes too big to sign on with an agency?
We call them Specialty Plus Models. Some people in the industry hate the term, and others think it's fitting. (They've also been called Commercial Models and Plus Talent)

What's makes a Specialty Plus Model?
Well as far as Buxom is concerned, a Specialty Plus Model is a woman who understands that she doesn't fit into the fashion industries mold, but still strives to be a model. She's not interested in BBW Modeling or porn. She carries herself in a classy intelligent manner, and she aspires to be the best fashion model she can be...not letting her height or size hold her back!

Those are the kind of models Buxom is looking for. Special models who want to see the industry change even if it takes 50 years. Special models who are dedicated to size acceptance, self acceptance, self awareness, and self respect. Special models who know the difference between nudity and art, sensuality and porn, high fashion and poor taste.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

Here is our handy dandy guide to modeling terms and categories. (This is based on OUR research, this does not reflect the opinion of everyone in the modeling industry) Read this and really think about what type of model you want to be.

Straight Plus - Sizes 12-18, 5'8"+.
Models like Fluvia, Emme, Tocara Jones, Madeline Figueroa, Lisa Scott, Angelikka, etc.
"Straight Plus Models" are tall, toned, and fairly porpotionate. Pretty much a curvier thicker version of a skinny woman...including a realtively flat stomach, no stretch marks, double chins or apparent fat rolls.
(Try Googling those names and check out their online portfolios.)
You'll find Straight Plus models on runways, Lane Bryant Catalogs, Dove Commercials, etc. These type of models get signed to the plus size divisions of major modeling agencies in NY and L.A.

Speciality Plus - Sizes 12-26, no height requirements. Models like, Charlie Curvada, Nahid Baghery, Nadirah Bahar, Michelle Krehl, Tiffany Kaelin, Lynda Ray Hamilton, Danielle Rhoten, Claudette Rangel, Kenna Piercy, Tasha Duff, Amanda Hussey, etc. Speciality Plus models have much curvier figures and are not always porportioned! (ie, small on top w/big butt or huge boobs, pearshaped, etc.) They have stretch marks, cellulite, even sagging breasts. They're less toned, yet... of course... still beautiful models!

BBW Adult Modeling - Usually the first thing people think of when they hear "BBW Modeling" is fattie porn sites... well, they're usually right! Unfortunately, alot of fat women don't do enough research to find that there are OTHER avenues of plus modeling to get into, or they think they aren't good enough for regular modeling so they start with adult/erotic modeling. (However, there are alot of ladies that genuinely enjoy that type of modeling. And that's fine...)
Most "models" are size 18-40 (general opinion is, "the bigger the better"). There are tons of BBW porn sites, as well as erotic BBW magazines (BBW Bunnies, BBW Angels, Bodacious Magazine, Big Butt Magazine, etc.)

Sooo.... it all depends on what your shape is like, how tall you are, what size you are, and what type of modeling you want to do (fashion, commercial, erotic, etc.)

Aug 29 07 01:33 pm Link

Photographer

S

Posts: 21678

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Thank you, ladies.  smile

Aug 29 07 02:01 pm Link

Model

Samantha Green

Posts: 710

Wahpeton, North Dakota, US

No problem, doll! smile

Aug 29 07 02:14 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Anthony

Posts: 2290

Glendale, California, US

for the record,


I AM A SPECIALTY PLUS MODEL...



















https://a237.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_49e28cc3977b63c694214b61d4bd7574.jpg

Aug 29 07 02:17 pm Link

Model

Jasmine E

Posts: 385

New York, New York, US

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Aug 29 07 02:18 pm Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

Damn straight!!!!

Aug 29 07 02:19 pm Link

Model

LoniNewby

Posts: 3225

Brigham City, Utah, US

Michael Anthony wrote:
for the record,
I AM A SPECIALTY PLUS MODEL...
https://a237.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_49e28cc3977b63c694214b61d4bd7574.jpg

No honey you are THE Specialty Plus Model!!

Aug 29 07 02:20 pm Link

Model

Stacie Delaine

Posts: 2559

Huntington Beach, California, US

oooh my that is the best smile

Aug 29 07 02:33 pm Link

Model

PlusModelNikki

Posts: 1196

Pontiac, Michigan, US

Jasmine L wrote:

Oh, I'm Totally ready for that tooo!! big_smile

Crystal Renn gets a lot of attention because she has a really high fashion look that works just about anywhere editorial. Plus, she's got a "story" about how she battled an eating disorder and almost died from it. I'd like to have a story of my own to get my face out there, but ... No luck so far (lol).

Y'all just wait til I get to my "high fashion/editorial" size. lol I'm gonna have a story then I'll have all of her work *muahahaha*

I love when me and my bf go shopping, he's like do you know any of the models on these posters? lol He recognizes Jasmine now lol

Aug 29 07 02:40 pm Link

Model

PlusModelNikki

Posts: 1196

Pontiac, Michigan, US

Michael Anthony wrote:
for the record,


I AM A SPECIALTY PLUS MODEL...



















https://a237.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_49e28cc3977b63c694214b61d4bd7574.jpg

That picture is kick ass. Kinda hot.

Aug 29 07 02:42 pm Link

Model

Amanda Rene

Posts: 682

San Diego, California, US

Nikki S. wrote:
Y'all just wait til I get to my "high fashion/editorial" size. lol I'm gonna have a story then I'll have all of her work *muahahaha*

LOL...get em girl! wink I'm going to get down to a 14 too...I'm determined.
THEN I'm going to get a smile make over.  THEN I'll try to be a plus size model.
smile

But for now, I say specialty plus too...just cause I don't know what else to call myself.  I have done editorials and modeled for clothing websites...and did a fashion show for Fashion Overdose who likes to use bigger girls for their plus line...so I don't know.  I'm not the typical plus size model size...but I still "model" clothes for small clothing lines with online websites.  Would you say specialty plus is appropriate? Internet model?  Or commercial model?

Ooooh...by the way...that pic is HOT HOT HOT Michael! wink

Aug 29 07 03:01 pm Link

Photographer

i c e c o l d

Posts: 8610

Fort Myers, Florida, US

Michael Anthony wrote:
for the record,


I AM A SPECIALTY PLUS MODEL...
https://a237.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_49e28cc3977b63c694214b61d4bd7574.jpg

Straight up gansta.....werd!   Cool photo Michael!



Are you going to be at the Florida Torrid Search in September? I was thinking about making the drive up for the day to check it out!

Aug 29 07 03:36 pm Link

Model

Amanda Rene

Posts: 682

San Diego, California, US

smile

Aug 29 07 03:41 pm Link

Photographer

kevbailey

Posts: 3130

Hemet, California, US

uh oh,  don't make me get out my self portrait!  LOL

Aug 29 07 03:55 pm Link

Model

Amanda Rene

Posts: 682

San Diego, California, US

kevbailey wrote:
uh oh,  don't make me get out my self portrait!  LOL

Let's see it!

Aug 29 07 04:47 pm Link

Photographer

kevbailey

Posts: 3130

Hemet, California, US

Amanda Boucher wrote:

Let's see it!

LOL   somehow I knew you would be the one to request that!  smile     

now i gotta find it.  it' ain't pretty

Aug 29 07 04:48 pm Link

Photographer

kevbailey

Posts: 3130

Hemet, California, US

smile

Aug 29 07 04:48 pm Link

Model

Jasmine E

Posts: 385

New York, New York, US

OMG .. I am so incredibly bored at work. It should be illegal to BE this bored!  *sigh* hmm

Aug 29 07 04:48 pm Link

Photographer

kevbailey

Posts: 3130

Hemet, California, US

these double posts are killing me today

Aug 29 07 04:50 pm Link