D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Know all the "rules" before you break them.
Know the craft before you twist it.

-D

Very true.

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Know all the "rules" before you break them.
Know the craft before you twist it.

-D

..and know the history

Justin N Lane wrote:

..and know the history

So you can build your style of a strong foundation.

Justin N Lane wrote:
..and know the history

I had a lot of history in school, I know that Mainz, the town I grew up was a Roman settlement called Moguntiacum and was build about 2,000 years ago.

Mainz was also the birthplace of printing with "moveable" type by one of its sons Johannes Gensfleisch Gutenberg.

I know much more, but I don't know how that helps me with my photography.

AFAIK, photography was invented in 1973 in September by Gerald Poland-Steroid (brand named later as Polaroid) and the rest is history.

But I don't know how that will help my photography either...

UdoR wrote:
I had a lot of history in school, I know that Mainz, the town I grew up was a Roman settlement called Moguntiacum and was build about 2,000 years ago.

Mainz was also the birthplace of printing with "moveable" type by one of its sons Johannes Gensfleisch Gutenberg.

I know much more, but I don't know how that helps me with my photography.

AFAIK, photography was invented in 1973 in September by Gerald Poland-Steroid (brand named later as Polaroid) and the rest is history.

But I don't know how that will help my photography either...

1973?!

http://www.photo.net/history/timeline

Wolf189 wrote:

So you can build your style of a strong foundation.

..and not be ignorantly derivative

Wolf189 wrote:

1973?!

http://www.photo.net/history/timeline

Justin N Lane wrote:

..and not be ignorantly derivative

Very true.  It's important to know from whom you're stealing your ideas. 

UdoR wrote:
1. Remove the lenscap
2. Fresh Batteries
3. Make sure the lens is attached to the camera body
4. Know which side of the camera is front and back
5. Be creative


Those are the basic rules for me.

In the OP's case.. I think #2 needs to be repeated 4 or 5 times..  Some of those pics look like they went through LOTS of batteries..

Brian Diaz wrote:

Very true.  It's important to know from whom you're stealing your ideas. 

Was just about to ask if "knowingly derivative" is really better..?

John Jebbia wrote:
Who the hell is Art?

...and why would I want to twist part of him?    Eeeeeewwwwwwww.

UdoR wrote:
1. Remove the lenscap
2. Fresh Batteries
3. Make sure the lens is attached to the camera body
4. Know which side of the camera is front and back
5. Be creative


Those are the basic rules for me.

So actually having film or a memory card in the camera is optional?

Mark Stein wrote:

So actually having film or a memory card in the camera is optional?

Sure, if you're shooting tethered.

WG Rowland wrote:

In the OP's case.. I think #2 needs to be repeated 4 or 5 times..  Some of those pics look like they went through LOTS of batteries..

My Mama always told me to be very afraid of women who buy c batteries in case lots.

Mark Stein wrote:

So actually having film or a memory card in the camera is optional?

Hahahaa... I thought about film/memory card and simply forgot...

Like Bruce Testone, who let's Rose McGowan stand for 3 hours under the waterfall to get THE SHOT without film in the camera... whatever it takes...

Melvin Moten Jr wrote:
"Just bash it down, and tart it up later"

--Nick Lowe

Aww, now you have me hooked on that guy's music.

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Know all the "rules" before you break them.
Know the craft before you twist it.

-D

Damn.  Oooops...

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Know all the "rules" before you break them.
Know the craft before you twist it.

-D

Some of the best photographers I have seen that break the rules break them while not even knowing those "rules" because they do not have formal training to learn those rules. So to say that is not necessarily true.
  I myself am self taught and break rules all the time. I once had a small cafe showing of my art photography about 5 years ago. There was a photographer looking at them while sipping on his Espresso in his little tiny cup with saucer. sweater loosely tied around his neck, as he walked by each print one by one.
I, being a little on the mischevious side that night decided to pretend to be just someone else in the cafe looking at the prints. I engaged him in a little chit chat about the prints and what he thought of them. I did this so I could see what he really thought. Once I talked to him a bit I found out he had been trained by professionals as a younger guy and eventually obtained a Masters degree in photography from the Academy of Art. He liked them a lot and pointed out what he liked and this and that and even asked "I wonder where he was trained, what college".
  I eventually told him I was the one whose prints he was looking at and that I was self taught through reading and practicing since I was 10. I could see a slight annoyed look on his face. Which turned to an almost offended look when I told him every single print was from a 4 megapixel digital(some of these prints were as big as 13x19 and nice ans crisp).
He then proceeded to tell me what was wrong with this and wrong with that but also  seemed stumped when he half complimented me while looking at one of the prints by saying "This shouldn`t "work" but somehow you made it work".

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Know all the "rules" before you break them.
Know the craft before you twist it.

-D

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier. … q-path=317

UdoR wrote:
1. Remove the lenscap
2. Fresh Batteries
3. Make sure the lens is attached to the camera body
4. Know which side of the camera is front and back
5. Be creative


Those are the basic rules for me.

Lens cap eh... hmm interesting, i hadnt considered that trick... ill give that a shot

UdoR wrote:
1. Remove the lenscap

This reminds me of one of my first shoots. At some point in the shoot I actually had to say" Ok dammit, if you yell lenscap ONE more time....!"

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Know all the "rules" before you break them.
Know the craft before you twist it.

-D