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Is it nude when you are covered in mud?
Photography by Nature wrote: It's not artistic, you're just one lucky photographer that is taking picture of a really really, interesting and strange kind of ROCK resembling a human nude figure ! Mar 23 06 06:00 pm Link Alan from Aavian Prod wrote: Photography by Nature wrote: WARNING: The owners of this site are not responsible for personal injuries sustained as a result of reading these messages. Mar 23 06 06:02 pm Link I consider it nude, but obviously a lot of people don't. I had a photographer contact me, fully aware that I wouldn't do nudes, who said that I would be perfect for his "bodies covered in chocolate" project. Mar 23 06 06:08 pm Link leiah wrote: I think we need to ask Intensity to add this to her list. I am curious where she rates chocolate on the nudilogical scale. Mar 23 06 06:19 pm Link It seems like when Sports Illustrated does its swimsuit issue with some pictures showing nude painted models that it is not considered nude because anyone can buy the magazine no matter their age. Mar 24 06 10:39 am Link Photography by Nature wrote: Funny you should mention ask. Just last night I watched a "performance art" piece with 4 nude models covered with mud (or mudes, if you prefer), two women and two men. Very moody lighting and new age music. You get the idea. After watching that, I would have to say that it would take a LOT of mud to fully disguise a man's dangley bits. Surprisingly, the mud had the opposite effect. Since it tended to make much of the rest of their body and face somewhat featureless, it actually made their dangley bits more noticeable. And neither of them were exceptionally endowed, so that wasn't it. Mar 24 06 12:33 pm Link Funny question to ask since its mostly what I have been doing the past few years... check out my site for a few samples as well as my OMP link. I do not use mud but various clay bodies I custom mix with colored pigments (iron oxides and such) and various liquids for slow, fast or non-drying effects. Of course I have my personal mixes and hidden formulas as well...  I buy all my supplies in 25-50lb bags or more. Since I am a ceramic artist as well, I already have many of the equipment and mixers and place for this work set up. The issues I have found surprising are: 1. Clay will cool the body temp down on the model. I have had to set up portable heaters during the summer in Alabama (one hot and humid place) for shoots in the shade. Its common to see the models shiver if not in the direct sun.. 2. Always have someone the model knows come to the shoot to help them clean off.. the shower takes about 20 minutes or more to wash it all off and they will need someone to clean the back, ears and other body parts they will miss. 3. Adding olive oil to clay makes it rich on the skin... but double the time to clean it off the body.. Oil is not so easy to wash off. lots of soap and scrubbers are needed. 4. Always treat the hair and body with a ton of moisturizers BEFORE applying the clay. The clay will suck the skin dry. I have the models put in conditioner straight from the bottle, them apply the clay to the hair. Its makes for an easier clean-up. 5. Clay will crack and dry unevenly, you either love its effects or hate it.. 6. The model will ALWAYS look different, very different than what you expect just in the nude only. Clay will add weight to the body, cover all blemishes and tattoos and scars, the ultimate concealer. 7. For every hour I actually spend with the model shooting, I will spend 5 times more in the preparation, about three times more applying and getting models ready for the shoot, and twice as long for clean-up.. I have not even gotten to the photo editing process yet. So for each hour I spend on actual shoot time, I will spend about 15 hours in non-shooting tasks. All my shoots are all day long with many breaks and fun times mixed in for the unexpected shots. I usually spend about $250 per person for each shot in materials, its not as cheap as you may think if you want to do it right. Its by far my favorite shooting sessions... I could do this for the rest of my life and be happy as an artist. Mar 25 06 12:25 am Link I have done a mud shoot before I considered it nude. The models husband applied most of the mud we baked it on her with hot lamps you can see her peeling it off in one of my photo on my page called "Dryed Skin". James Mar 25 06 12:51 am Link HokNok wrote: How about that, a genuine expert, that is cool. There is someone who always knows something about everything! Mar 25 06 09:45 am Link leiah wrote: I'm sorry it appears as though you are off topic. Alan was asking about mud. What you are talking about with chocolate is the art of shooting confectionary "chudes." Though not as dirty as mud, many consider them too sweet for their liking. Mar 25 06 09:55 am Link Does warm honey count? did a shoot where we painted the model, TOTALLY, in honey... great shoot, skin looked translucent, wonderful... then later got ice cream "sparkles" and sprinkled her down... great fun til it came time for cleanup... yikers... the suggestion to have them bring a friend is SO true... we stood her in a large cut down 55 gallon drum and rinsed her down with warm water and Dove soap..took awile but the shots were worth the effort. So does honey count as non-nude? Mar 25 06 09:55 am Link Jeff Marsh wrote: Depends on the bee you're asking... Mar 25 06 09:58 am Link Arca Imaging wrote: area291 wrote: Jeff Marsh wrote: So now I suppose we have mudes, chudes and hudes. We might as well add honey covered nudes (hudes) to the list. Intensity wrote: Please, come to our rescue. Chudes and hudes are not on the list. Tell use where they fit in and bring order to the world. Mar 25 06 10:00 am Link No but its "dirty" (-: Mar 25 06 07:09 pm Link Jeff Marsh wrote: Jeff, show us the honey pics!!!! Mar 25 06 09:02 pm Link I've done the mud nudes... and yes, I think they are nudes. I have one in my port. Why would I have to rate it as 18+ if it wasn't a nude??? Mar 26 06 09:02 am Link I would think of it as nude. You're just dirty and nude is all. Mar 26 06 09:25 am Link But surely its not REALLY nude unless the model is shaved? Mar 26 06 09:36 am Link Light and Darker wrote: ... or covered in shaving cream? Mar 27 06 08:10 am Link well think about it if you are wearing mud then you are wearing something and once you are wearing something you are no longer nude, even if it is a sock  Mar 27 06 08:20 am Link |
