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I always felt site like model mayhem, OMP and Musecube were mainly for networking purposes. These sites are great for models and photographers to build their portfolios and skills. I mention to another photographer since the internet, models now charge for shoots as though they were signed to an agency. I would never book a net model for a actual paid job and I can't understand why someone else would also. So with that said am I right to assume site like MM are for networking? If you don't do TFP you should not be on MM or any of the others right? There are plenty of agencies so if they won't sign you the I can assume something is wrong like drug use weight trouble reliability etc.... Are there any honest reason why a model would not get an agent? I know they take a cut but more work equals more money right? Agent are here to find work for models photographers, actors etc.. You should get an agent if you're a no TFP model plain and simple. KARLOS MATTHEWS Feb 28 06 03:13 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: Many of the models on here who say they are "PAO" can't get signed to land-based agencies Feb 28 06 03:17 pm Link I'm just starting, eventually i wanna try going to an agency. A model wont book big gigs going to a site like this, your right it is good just for networking. I think over the summer once school is over i'll try the agency thing. Feb 28 06 03:20 pm Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: Whats PAO? Feb 28 06 03:21 pm Link Brent Mitchell wrote: paid assignments only Feb 28 06 03:23 pm Link Brent Mitchell wrote: Brent sounds like you have a plan I hope it works out and sites like MM and omp help you achieve your goals. Feb 28 06 03:32 pm Link I would never sign with an agency. I dont like paying someone to find me work when I've never had a problem finding work on my own.Besides, I feel like being signed with an agency would just bring me jobs and photographers I dont want to work with. Feb 28 06 03:37 pm Link CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: I notice most of the PAO models only saleable items are nude pics of their bodies. which are extremely useless to land based agencies. Feb 28 06 03:40 pm Link If you have a paying job as a photographer, and you find or know a model on MM that you like to work with and who suits the job, why would you not pay her/him? Feb 28 06 03:42 pm Link DeathbyNew-Wave wrote: please explain wouldn't you make more if your doing more photoshoots that pay more ( even if the agent takes a cut) you'll still make more $$$ right. A Pepsi commercial would pay a great deal more than a photographer or a local clothing store right? It leads me to think model who say no to agencies only because they can't get an agency to rep them. It's kinda like me saying no to the 2006 lexxus right Feb 28 06 03:45 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: Well for instance I've had soooo many offers on here by photographers,but they do really shitty work or only photograph certain genres of photography so I wont work with them, not even if they pay me. Like it says in my profile, I shoot for quality,not quantity.Every modeling job I've gotten was by just being out somewhere or someone finding me on myspace that was local.I'm only interested in doing retro modeling because I actually dress as though it were the 40's on a daily basis. The whole fashion and runway and commercial stuff to me is boring and I dont like it so I dont sign with agencies already knowing thats the kind of work they'll bring me. Feb 28 06 03:48 pm Link Networking...hmmm...interesting. Professional term for yacking. I like! I'm with an agency. I haven't done a TFP or hell any shoot with a photographer from here since August. So to be honest just here to yack...errr I mean network! edited to add: Not that I wouldn't do TFP if the concept interested me and it was a photographer I felt could benefit my book. Feb 28 06 03:51 pm Link Not true. I have an agency and I love tfps!! Feb 28 06 03:53 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: I think there are many models here with the same thoughts as you. Feb 28 06 04:15 pm Link Sky Above wrote: Thanks sexy lady Feb 28 06 04:29 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: cool glad to see you still do, I feel this should be the norm. I was referring to the unsigned hype who have huge day/hourly rates. I just wonder why they're here on MM and OMP site if not to build a book or network. If I was a model I would rather be working with businesses with real cash to spend not photographers who are usually on small next to nothing budgets. Feb 28 06 04:32 pm Link Free pics from some really talented photogs. I have met so many talented driven people on here.....it's amazing. I love modelmayhem and omp Feb 28 06 04:32 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: Well, my agents never ever ever let me do tfp... they don't want crappy pix of thier girls floating around. (Not saying that all tfp is crappy obviously!!!) Feb 28 06 04:32 pm Link RachelCWhittemore wrote: then why are here?? ( not to be rude hun ) I am just looking for some answers that's all. If your agent are booking you jobs then MM and OMP serves no purpose. It's not for the networking so I guess MM is more like a myspace to some ppl Feb 28 06 04:34 pm Link Ive worked with a variety of agencies in the past and i still do now. I only do paid assignments, however, Im down for TFP if the right photographer offers. Im on MM and OMP solely for networking, because ive come to realize alot of what you get from this business depends on who you know ! Feb 28 06 04:44 pm Link RachelCWhittemore wrote: I don't do shoots with crappy photogs ~ I am very picky with my tfps! Feb 28 06 04:56 pm Link While FTP shoots are supposed to be mutually beneficial for both the model and photographer, I have found them more of a time when the photographer and model can experiment with new lighting ideas, looks, camera angles and what ever strikes their fancy. The reason is this. There is NO pressure from an agent, agency or other third party. Just two adults in the studio sandbox as it were, building on their own ideas. D Feb 28 06 05:35 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: lol, I'm not saying all tfp is crappy. (But, c'mon, lots of TFP offered IS bad... you know it, hehe) Feb 28 06 05:39 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: That's obviously a lie! I'm working on photos of you right now. Feb 28 06 05:40 pm Link Neighborlyfotog wrote: NOT A TFP POSTING Feb 28 06 05:40 pm Link double posted - sorry! Brian, hahaha Feb 28 06 05:40 pm Link RachelCWhittemore wrote: so why are you on MM then if your booker won't allow you to shoot with anyone here? Feb 28 06 05:52 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: 'would not' Feb 28 06 06:28 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: I think you're catagorizing things wrong. Here's how I see things. Feb 28 06 06:44 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: CrazyIsabelAurora wrote: I notice most of the PAO models only saleable items are nude pics of their bodies. which are extremely useless to land based agencies. Yes, but very useful to glamour, fetish, art, and softcore photographers. Glamour, fetish, and art models are easily identifiable by the big red "A" they wear. Feb 28 06 06:57 pm Link Dave Krueger wrote: not entirely true dave I've seen girls who are fashion models who only do paid asignments. Feb 28 06 07:23 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: Dave Krueger wrote: not entirely true dave I've seen girls who are fashion models who only do paid asignments. I would expect it to be very unusal for a fashion model to do TFP. Where did I say otherwise? Agency models work for pay only. Internet models do TFP and paid. Feb 28 06 07:34 pm Link as a model i would not charge a photographer to shoot me. if they want to shoot me and their work is HOT i shoot with them, if their work is NOT then i will not. it doesnt matter if they want to pay me or not, it is NOT worth it for bad images on me to be floating around the net, the world, peoples houses... Feb 28 06 07:53 pm Link double post, sorry Feb 28 06 09:19 pm Link KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: It's the prerogative of each individual on Model Mayhem to decide how they wish to use the site. There ARE net models that are able to make a living WITHOUT an agency. Furthermore, the blanket statement you made regarding models without agents as follows: "There are plenty of agencies so if they won't sign you the I can assume something is wrong like drug use weight trouble reliability etc" is totally false. There are many factors influencing a models ability (or lack thereof) to be signed to an agency. My question to you is why does it bother you so much that some models choose not to do TFP? Live and let live... Feb 28 06 09:21 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: Why don't you move to Michigan? Why? Why? Feb 28 06 09:26 pm Link RachelCWhittemore wrote: I have to disagree here. There are some very high quality photographers on here. Many on here as giving some of the well known photographers a run for their money. I've also seen some photographers on here who have photographed some well known models. Eve the diva etc.. Mar 01 06 07:36 am Link At 5â5 Iâm not going to do fashion or even commercial modeling. I have looked at all the agencies near my area and you have to be 5â7 to be in the commercial open calls. Oh right they arenât having any commercial open calls right now or ever. I mainly work for workshops and nude figure modeling and fetish work. I have carved out a little niche and have been hired by several photographers in the bay area. I have also worked for sculptors, promotions, jewelers, and other artists. I understand that âNet Modelsâ? are the lower tier, the bottom of the barrel in the so called âmodeling industryâ?. The industry is changing fast and has been since the advent of digital cameras. I saw an opportunity to try something new and a market I might be able to work in and enjoy and I took that oporturnity and am turning it into a great way to make a living. I only need to work part time and I donât have near the stress as my old retail jobs and I have enough time to spend with my family. I use MM and others to network and to get jobs. I shoot TFP and Paid assignments. If there was a large worthy agency to take me I would sign with them. Currently Iâm working with signing with a few small alternative agencies/artist guilds. I understand that some photographers wonât ever hire me even if the client loves my look because Iâm a lowly internet model, who caresâ¦. Iâll just keep working for the ones who do. P.S. as for more work?? the past three days I have been shooting, eating, and sleeping. hardly any time for anything else. Mar 01 06 11:57 am Link RachelCWhittemore wrote: Confused a bit by what point you are trying to make with talk of the former booker. Mar 01 06 12:05 pm Link What Dave said. I can't speak for everyone of course, but I'm not a commercial or fashion model. I simply don't have the look or attitude for those genres and I'm realistic about my niche. I work primarily as an artist's model and on rare ocassions do some glamour or fetish work. There aren't really any worthwhile agencies for those markets. Mar 01 06 12:12 pm Link |