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g2-new photographics
Posts: 2048
Boston, Massachusetts, US
McKenzie is right! What's the hurry?
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James Jackson Fashion
Posts: 11132
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
McKenzie Bros Photo wrote:
yes...tooooooo young! In what way???
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James Jackson Fashion
Posts: 11132
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
pw-gii photographics wrote:
McKenzie is right! What's the hurry? A professional main-stream model's career only lasts in to her mid twenties...that's what the hurry is. If she was any older...literally...the advice would be to not bother trying to be a main-stream model because she's too short. At 5'7" she *might* get picked up by an agent or management company, but only if she has everything else going for her...which right at this point in her life she does because she has an older look, with the advantages of youthful skin, hair, and body.
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SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
DeBoer Photography wrote:
Opt for a bikin pic to showcase your body instead of lingerie. If the agency wants you do to lingerie, they will let you know. I'm not disagreeing, but I find it amusing that many people will have a problem with someone on a personal or professional level posing in lingerie (whether it be because of her age or business concerns or what have you) but are fine with that same person posing in a revealing bikini. In the OP's case she has far more revealing swimsuit shots.
The dichotomy just boggles.
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Steven Bigler
Posts: 1007
Schenectady, New York, US
Some basics and reality should be applied here..... 1. your agent should decide what goes on your card. ...that said I'm going to guess you do not have an agent. -with that as the assumption: 2. it is highly unlikely you will get booked for LEGIT lingerie jobs 3. you are more likely than not going to draw unwanted attention to yourself by the "web" based persons that might want to push from lingerie... to a bit more. Now the reality... any lingerie companies that might want to book you... would have you come in for a fitting in person anyway. As well they would be just as interested from a great swimwear shot. So NO... you do not need it. ![https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/bigler/promos/DaniSwim.jpg]()
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g2-new photographics
Posts: 2048
Boston, Massachusetts, US
James Jackson wrote:
A professional main-stream model's career only lasts in to her mid twenties...that's what the hurry is. If she was any older...literally...the advice would be to not bother trying to be a main-stream model because she's too short. At 5'7" she *might* get picked up by an agent or management company, but only if she has everything else going for her...which right at this point in her life she does because she has an older look, with the advantages of youthful skin, hair, and body. If she gets a contract, then sure - go for it. But the likelihood of getting a contract via modelmayhem is slim indeed. And at 17 it makes no sense to do lingerie. As McKenzie said - and I still agree - it's way too young for that.
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James Jackson Fashion
Posts: 11132
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
pw-gii photographics wrote:
If she gets a contract, then sure - go for it. But the likelihood of getting a contract via modelmayhem is slim indeed. And at 17 it makes no sense to do lingerie. As McKenzie said - and I still agree - it's way too young for that. The question wasn't "should I get seedy lingerie photos of me taken and post them to MM" The question was is 17 too young to model lingerie...
The answer is no.
There are no exceptions or brown areas...it's not too young...it happens every day...you see it every day in everything from your local paper to bus stop signs...so why give her the bad advice that she should for some sense of your self-imposed morality feel that she is breaking some sort of moral code by considering posing for lingerie shots?
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William Coleman
Posts: 2371
New York, New York, US
Tawny, here's another good site to check out: www.modelingscams.org. Not everyone in this field is reputable (although all MM members are, of course).
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g2-new photographics
Posts: 2048
Boston, Massachusetts, US
James Jackson wrote:
The question wasn't "should I get seedy lingerie photos of me taken and post them to MM" The question was is 17 too young to model lingerie...
The answer is no.
There are no exceptions or brown areas...it's not too young...it happens every day...you see it every day in everything from your local paper to bus stop signs...so why give her the bad advice that she should for some sense of your self-imposed morality feel that she is breaking some sort of moral code by considering posing for lingerie shots? Lots of things happen every day, but that doesn't mean that they are good ideas.
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James Jackson Fashion
Posts: 11132
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
pw-gii photographics wrote:
Lots of things happen every day, but that doesn't mean that they are good ideas. Just because you disagree with something for some 'moral' reason doesn't mean it's a bad idea either...
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g2-new photographics
Posts: 2048
Boston, Massachusetts, US
James Jackson wrote:
Just because you disagree with something for some 'moral' reason doesn't mean it's a bad idea either... But then, again, it might.
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James Jackson Fashion
Posts: 11132
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
pw-gii photographics wrote:
But then, again, it might. ...for you...not for everyone else
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g2-new photographics
Posts: 2048
Boston, Massachusetts, US
I'm not sure you're speaking for everyone else.
But you have one opinion and I have another.
So let's let it go.
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James Jackson Fashion
Posts: 11132
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
pw-gii photographics wrote:
I'm not sure you're speaking for everyone else.
But you have one opinion and I have another.
So let's let it go. No I'm not speaking for everyone...I'm speaking for logic.
This is not a question where opinion should enter in to it.
Come up with some logical reason that 17 is too young to pose for lingerie shots...
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Valkyrur
Posts: 1187
Nelsonville, New York, US
Your portfolio looks great as is ...
NO need to rush into lingiere ...
It will do you NO good ...
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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
James Jackson wrote:
No I'm not speaking for everyone...I'm speaking for logic.
This is not a question where opinion should enter in to it.
Come up with some logical reason that 17 is too young to pose for lingerie shots... because it is sexualizing a CHILD...and it is just plain and simply wrong...to try and justify CHILD pornography by masking it in the name of art OR industry longevity, should be beaten to a pulp.
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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
James Jackson wrote:
Just because you disagree with something for some 'moral' reason doesn't mean it's a bad idea either... once again...an argument the Nazis used to start killing the handicapped and mentally challenged...does not our school sysytem teach kids to think and reason???
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Elysium
Posts: 16
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
IMHO-I am a mom and i would not let my own daughter do it (she does model for me), or even some of the bathing suit photos in your port. You have a great look-Aim for something more classy.
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Marvin Dockery
Posts: 2243
Alcoa, Tennessee, US
Glamour Boulevard wrote:
I personally think the SI swimsuit issue is cheesy. Aim higher. You are gorgeous, you have a great shape and you deserve better than SI. It is only once a year and they mainly use models who already have a big name.
You have a really nice portfolio. Just start showing it around. If you are ever in the Northern California area I would love to work with you myself. I have heard that being picked for SI was worth around $250,000.00 in spin off modeling jobs, plus the best exposure ever in the USA. Sounds like green cheese to me.
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Tawny Heath
Posts: 30
San Diego, California, US
Just to let you all know if people were telling me I wasnt to young to do it, I wasnt going to go jump into a thong and bra and pose for tons of photographers and try to become a huge sex symbol because that is just not me. I know I do have a very "commercial" look to me but I admire the Giselles and Adrianas and I think there is a very tasteful way to wear lingerie expamle...Victoria Secret models are gorgeous. I am not looking to be a Fredericks of Hollywood model. I dont have anything against it at all...Its just not for me. But I was thinking about adding diversity to my portfolio. Some more high fashion, and more tasteful lingerie to show that I am capable of pulling off different looks, because I think what sets models apart from eachother is the models ability to be diverse. I dont want anyone to get the wrong impression and think I am some young girl who wants to go put on these little tiny lingerie outfits and prance around in them, but I thought maybe I am at a point where I can bring a little more sex appeal and diverse looks into my portfolio.
:-)
Hope everyone has an awesome night!
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SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
Tawny Heath wrote:
Just to let you all know if people were telling me I wasnt to young to do it, I wasnt going to go jump into a thong and bra and pose for tons of photographers and try to become a huge sex symbol because that is just not me. I know I do have a very "commercial" look to me but I admire the Giselles and Adrianas and I think there is a very tasteful way to wear lingerie expamle...Victoria Secret models are gorgeous. I am not looking to be a Fredericks of Hollywood model. I dont have anything against it at all...Its just not for me. But I was thinking about adding diversity to my portfolio. Some more high fashion, and more tasteful lingerie to show that I am capable of pulling off different looks, because I think what sets models apart from eachother is the models ability to be diverse. I dont want anyone to get the wrong impression and think I am some young girl who wants to go put on these little tiny lingerie outfits and prance around in them, but I thought maybe I am at a point where I can bring a little more sex appeal and diverse looks into my portfolio.
:-)
Hope everyone has an awesome night! Certainly sounds like you have the mentality & attitude (and good parental support) to go far!
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bogas
Posts: 19
Toronto, Iowa, US
I like ur attitude and you have a great body! I can't belive your 17 you look a lot older!
Model
Tawny Heath
Posts: 30
San Diego, California, US
Thank you very much to both of you!
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Jessica Loren
Posts: 516
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Tawny Heath wrote:
Just to let you all know if people were telling me I wasnt to young to do it, I wasnt going to go jump into a thong and bra and pose for tons of photographers and try to become a huge sex symbol because that is just not me. I know I do have a very "commercial" look to me but I admire the Giselles and Adrianas and I think there is a very tasteful way to wear lingerie expamle...Victoria Secret models are gorgeous. I am not looking to be a Fredericks of Hollywood model. I dont have anything against it at all...Its just not for me. But I was thinking about adding diversity to my portfolio. Some more high fashion, and more tasteful lingerie to show that I am capable of pulling off different looks, because I think what sets models apart from eachother is the models ability to be diverse. I dont want anyone to get the wrong impression and think I am some young girl who wants to go put on these little tiny lingerie outfits and prance around in them, but I thought maybe I am at a point where I can bring a little more sex appeal and diverse looks into my portfolio.
:-)
Hope everyone has an awesome night! Preach on soul sista! LOL..you and I sound so much alike!
Photo removed due to lack of butt content.
(Just kidding...sort of)
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Tawny Heath
Posts: 30
San Diego, California, US
DeBoer Photography wrote:
If you are not interested in BEING a Victoria's Secret Model or a commercial lingerie model, then yes, putting such images in your porfolio may be fine...but you are likely to attract the wrong kinds of photographers and for the wrong kinds of reasons.
You have a "commercial" look, which is why I suggested trying to hook up with a reputable agency. Intead of wanting to look like a Vicotria's Secret Model...you could possibly BE a Victoria's Secret or if not that, atleast a commercial lingerie model for some other product line.
I am not sure how Victoria's Secret goes about finding their models, but there may be some on here who know for sure and could advise you better.
If you are just wanting to look "sexy" (because, you are, after all a young "woman"...or about to become one legally soon), it is natural for you to want to look "sexy" in lingerie. What woman doesn't want that? 
However, at 17, I would suggest waiting till you are at least 18 if you are wanting to model lingerie just for the sake of modeling in lingerie and looking sexy. (16-17 or younger and looking "sexy" is not good in the U.S.) Of course, you have an "older" look, which could allow you to be used in commercial ads for such images. In such images, you would not be potrayed as a 17 year old, but more like a woman in her early 20s.
I hope you understand.
Your looks are more than "commercial" as you have a nice face and figure and could probably do well in most types of modeling (including glamour/swimwear, artistic, figure, etc.)
Just keep in mind that as certain paths are chosen/taken, other paths may close...and new ones may open (for better or for worse).
I think you have potential and would advise you against pursuing glamour (lingerie falls under this) unless you are commercially modeling for a product line and it isn't being shot to feature YOU as the PRODUCT. There is a difference.
When you turn 18 (it's only one more year away), THEN if you choose to pursue the "sexy/glamourous" look...feel free to go into it full steam if that is what you want. And if you wanted to work with me at that point, I'd be more than honored to shoot you in a "sexy" way.
Regards,
Denoy I totally understand everything you are saying. Thanks for the advice
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bogas
Posts: 19
Toronto, Iowa, US
Jessica I hate to say this but i'm goin to.
You may be tall but you are in the wrong industry!
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Jessica Loren
Posts: 516
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Critical wrote:
Jessica I hate to say this but i'm goin to.
You may be tall but you are in the wrong industry! UH OH...should I ask what you mean by that???LOL
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Bob Helm Photography
Posts: 18922
Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US
As long as your parents approve and it is good taste why not. Any port needs body shots and lingerie and bikini are the same but different. Both show the body but the attitude and look should be different and should show versitility
Bob
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Sassy Bliss
Posts: 5
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
If that was my daughter, my god you'd be taken pictures behide bars where you belong..... Stay away from them under age baby's. They still baby's shouldn't be doing somthing like that. UNDER AGE I SEE A BIG THANG ABOUT THAT EMMM!!!!!
But I'm just saying not my daughter, no way! I'll do what I have so my girl don't have to do that. No way I guess it's how and what the parents have ta say about.It if she were to do that she would have to wait to be a LEGAL age!!!!!!
And of course a MALE photographer would state "people need to relax."Oh please Some male Photographer would sure be glad ta do somthing like that take full advantage!!!!!!!!! I know that my photographer wouldn't dare shot a under age gal like that!!!!This photographer sounds's like a big PREVERT talking to a under age model like that My god it's illegal to have sex or even talk about things like that with a under age girl,ew just sick! To even think about taken pictures of a young girl like that! Oh my god I couldn't even pose in a bikini and have it publicized in the paper until I was 18. Please be careful, yeah I know your mama toke that picture of you.
Baby don't get me wrong but be very careful!!!! You have a great future a head of you!!!!!!!!!
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Hamza
Posts: 7791
New York, New York, US
People need to relax!
You are NOT "Too Young", why do people cry when they hear a 17 year old is being shot in Lingerie? Hell, you probably have a healthy SEX LIFE! Haven't people thought of that? If you are old enough to have sex, then you are old enough to take pics in Lingerie if one of your parents says OK. You do need at least one of your parent's OK for obvious legal reasons.
If you feel comfortable go for it!
Come on! Like you look 17 in the other sexy pics on your port!!! Bikini or Lingerie? What the hell's the difference??? You are still half naked!
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Tawny Heath
Posts: 30
San Diego, California, US
Hamza wrote:
People need to relax!
You are NOT "Too Young", why do people cry when they hear a 17 year old is being shot in Lingerie? Hell, you probably have a healthy SEX LIFE! Haven't people thought of that? If you are old enough to have sex, then you are old enough to take pics in Lingerie if one of your parents says OK. You do need at least one of your parent's OK for obvious legal reasons.
If you feel comfortable go for it!
Come on! Like you look 17 in the other sexy pics on your port!!! Bikini or Lingerie? What the hell's the difference??? You are still half naked! Well, you don't have a healthy sex life to be sexy! lol! The things that take up my time right now are school and pursuing a modeling/acting career.....not sex.
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Hamza
Posts: 7791
New York, New York, US
Tawny Heath wrote:
Hamza wrote:
People need to relax!
You are NOT "Too Young", why do people cry when they hear a 17 year old is being shot in Lingerie? Hell, you probably have a healthy SEX LIFE! Haven't people thought of that? If you are old enough to have sex, then you are old enough to take pics in Lingerie if one of your parents says OK. You do need at least one of your parent's OK for obvious legal reasons.
If you feel comfortable go for it!
Come on! Like you look 17 in the other sexy pics on your port!!! Bikini or Lingerie? What the hell's the difference??? You are still half naked! Well, you don't have a healthy sex life to be sexy! lol! The things that take up my time right now are school and pursuing a modeling/acting career.....not sex. My point is that you Probably have already had sex, if you are not having it on a regular basis, so being in Lingerie is NO BIG DEAL. You don't have to answer, I don't care if you have had sex or not, it's not the point. You are a pretty sexy YOUNG WOMAN and if you want to pose in Lingerie I say go for it. It would round out your Comp Card nicely.
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Kelley De Lee
Posts: 32
Aledo, Texas, US
I think it all has to do with your own personal beliefs and point of view.
You are a gorgeous girl, I say do it!
xoxo
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Tawny Heath
Posts: 30
San Diego, California, US
Hamza wrote:
Tawny Heath wrote:
Hamza wrote:
People need to relax!
You are NOT "Too Young", why do people cry when they hear a 17 year old is being shot in Lingerie? Hell, you probably have a healthy SEX LIFE! Haven't people thought of that? If you are old enough to have sex, then you are old enough to take pics in Lingerie if one of your parents says OK. You do need at least one of your parent's OK for obvious legal reasons.
If you feel comfortable go for it!
Come on! Like you look 17 in the other sexy pics on your port!!! Bikini or Lingerie? What the hell's the difference??? You are still half naked! Well, you don't have a healthy sex life to be sexy! lol! The things that take up my time right now are school and pursuing a modeling/acting career.....not sex. My point is that you Probably have already had sex, if you are not having it on a regular basis, so being in Lingerie is NO BIG DEAL. You don't have to answer, I don't care if you have had sex or not, it's not the point. You are a pretty sexy YOUNG WOMAN and if you want to pose in Lingerie I say go for it. It would round out your Comp Card nicely. Well I appreciate your compliments, but your assumptions are wrong. Just because I can present confidence with my sexuality doesnt mean I have ever had sex. I dont see anything wrong with having some sex appeal as a model at 17, but having sex at 17 isnt right for me.
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Tawny Heath
Posts: 30
San Diego, California, US
DeBoer Photography wrote:
See? Told you. Brains.
You do fine, Tawny. And your parents are supportive, which is awesome. :-) Thank you! Yea I am a really lucky girl to have parents as supportive as mine!! lol
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