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Sunil Joshi wrote: DawnElizabeth Moderator wrote: Spoken like a true guy......that's too funny, dude. And what's funnier is....I think you might be serious. Well, forgive me for trying to attain similar looks to many of your own pictures in your portfolio! Now a look like that comes with a lot of practice! Yes, Dawn, I was only kidding... NO, I thought the comment was funny, seriously. And I didn't take offense. Feb 03 06 11:04 am Link i wish... i should be so lucky... Feb 03 06 11:06 am Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: Craig Thomson wrote: You hit the nail on the head. Feb 03 06 11:22 am Link A long time ago, when I was very young.... I used to advertise in a local weekly newspaper, looking for models that wanted to build their portfolio. A youngish girl calls me, asks about my rates, and work etc. We meet up for coffee to discuss her requirements, and my idea's and come to a mutual agreement to shoot the following Sunday. The shoot went really badly, she was incapable of taking any form of instruction, and spent more time talking about her BF than actually looking where I requested. I plugged away at it, and often tripped the flash so that she would relax, and I took the actual photo I was looing for. As the session was crawling to an end, she asked if I would do some 'topless' shots, I was a little hesitant, she really did not look as if she had the body to pull it off, but agreed, after all, I am a professional, I have seen worse... She literally ripped her top off, and fell into typical chest out, shoulders-back poses, and I took a few shots that I figured would be 'OK', then she stepped out of her pants, and underwear ! Well again, I looked for the more arty shots, and the more I tried to avoid the more pornographic images, the more she dropped into 'those' poses. I cut the session, because I was embarassed for her, if she was looking for nudes, no problem, but a razor and/or some scissors would have been a good idea. So, I call it to a halt, and she wanders over to me, asking how good she looked. I may have been a little tactless, I said something about the final few not really being terribly sexy, she falls into the 'oh, so you don't think I am sexy'. Long story short, she came on seriously hard to me, and I declined. After she left, I hit the darkroom (remember them), developed the film, produced contact prints for her to collect a few days later. Just as I had finished, there was a hammering on the door, the 'model' had come back, and had a gorilla with her (well I *think* he was a gorilla, he was about 300lbs, 6-4, and kind of slack-jawed). I opened the door to her, and the gorilla hit me straight on the chin - throwing me about 10 feet backwards. He launched at me, and in between beeting me senseless, accused me of 'screwing his girl'. They left, after heling theirselves to a few trinkets, and I called the cop. Turns out that she had got back upset, told her that I had tried to rape her, and he decided to 'teach me a lesson'. She later confessed to the cops, and he was released eventually after I decided not to press charges. I tend to be a little more selective nowadays ! Feb 03 06 11:24 am Link Christopher Bush wrote: yep all lies! Feb 03 06 12:22 pm Link For myself, when I'm trying my best to create a good set of pictures of a pretty model, whether she has clothes on or she's naked as a buck, fantasizing about screwing her is the last thing on my mind. Feb 03 06 12:35 pm Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: they're probably closet gays...(diversion) Feb 03 06 12:44 pm Link EmArEn wrote: What a nightmare! Feb 03 06 12:45 pm Link GIRL ART wrote: thats ideal and professional but not everybody is like that Feb 03 06 12:45 pm Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: No, this is not common and says more about your decisions in who you choose to work with. Careful. Feb 03 06 12:49 pm Link vanscottie wrote: thank you thank you thank you...do you think this will stop the question? hell no, give it three days LOL and it will be asked again...maybe folks should read some biographies by models and entertainers? Feb 03 06 12:58 pm Link Chip Morton wrote: Has nothing to do with me. I have no intrinsic idea about the photographers personality before we shoot my dezigns. They often contact me due to their admiration for my dezigns and would like to add some of them to their portfolios. I am open to their creative vision and various expressions of my fashions through their lens. It is usually after the shoot that the "Lustful Intentions/Past Actions" are expressed. It could just be that since I am straight it is assumed that I often Hit it (screw my models) as well. On being careful it is not my responsiblilty to dictate their adgendas. Just to accept their (photographers) astounding vision and photography skills. Feb 03 06 01:28 pm Link This does NOT happen! I think this discussion is just for kicks. Please, we are professionals Feb 03 06 01:31 pm Link UnoMundo Photography wrote: Oh yes it does, trust me...or there are some great liars in photography and modeling. Feb 03 06 01:36 pm Link Also I am not just focusing on photographers....models talk too. The ladies are not inhibited in their conversations about sex in the industry. Feb 03 06 01:38 pm Link Hell. Weekend before last as a matter of fact. He can name himself if he wants, I know he reads/watching the forums. It was great. And it'll help our photographer/model relationship in the future (mostly because of the type of photograhper he is and the type of model I am). Granted we didn't shoot at all that weekend, but girls will be girls, boys will be boys, and I happen to know that not all wives/girlfirends or husbands/boyfriends mind. I cant wait until next time. Feb 03 06 01:41 pm Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: This might be common for photographers to brag about who they screw if you like to chose those who are uncouth, immature, rude pigs. Feb 03 06 01:43 pm Link Struggle Dezign Co wrote: Well, I can't really say anything - I've never been propositioned by any of the photographers I've worked with. *shrug* Feb 03 06 01:44 pm Link Aesa wrote: Just some clarification: This wasn't because we felt any obligation to one another for past or future photoshoots as a model and photographer. We happen to be them, we also happen to be human and like each other. We didn't shoot that day specifically to keep the two separate. Thank you for your time. You'll also notice that I didn't name him because IMO, its uncouth to say "I slept with so-and-so", not so much to say "I slept with a model/photographer". Simple truth to the second one, not bragging. Feb 03 06 01:50 pm Link EmArEn wrote: you are lucky she came back with a gorilla, rather than a lawyer Feb 03 06 01:59 pm Link Aesa wrote: ROFLMAO ...HAHAHA .... The poor guy is probably sweating bullets with all your pontification. Feb 03 06 02:19 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Hehe. He knows he was mentioned in the forum, and doens't mind as long as his name wasn't mentioned. And what are you (read: anyone) going to do, mail everyone in my credits list and ask them if they slept with me? Yeah right. Not to mention, which one is going to answer yay/nay? Again, saying "I slept with so-n-so" can make it someone elses business, saying "I slept with a model/photographer" doesn't. Feb 03 06 02:28 pm Link Aesa wrote: cool. Feb 03 06 02:31 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: That would have been a hell of a lot easier to deal with, rather than having several broken ribs, broken nose, and requiring a bunch of stitches. Feb 03 06 02:35 pm Link Puh-leez!! Those guys were lying to hide the fact that they're virgins! Everyone knows that people in any given industry completely ignore natural human urges and consensual arrangements. And everyone knows that all photographers are ugly or else they would be on the other side of the lens. Further, no self-respecting photographer would admit to it if it actually happened (which, of course, it hasn't) for the mere fact that he or she would automatically qualify for the distinction of GWC based on a technicality. :::sarcasm off::: Seriously though, I can only speak for myself. It's never happened for me. Apparently the models I've worked with have too much personal decency to debase themselves with a creep like me. Feb 03 06 02:56 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: My b/f has no problem getting me laid thanks, so I don't have that issue. And like I mentioned, not all significant others have issues with things like this. I specifically got permission from mine before hand. Feb 03 06 02:58 pm Link Aesa wrote: Well said. Feb 03 06 03:08 pm Link Something that I always find amusing with threads like this is that if the photographer and model end up having sex, its always the photographer that is blamed. You all do realize it takes two to tango right? Its no different than if Mary and Joe who work for First Mortgage Company have sex because they got to know each other well at the workplace. As long as both adults are wanting this then why is there a discussion? Now, I will say that one party pressuring another into this is morally and professionally wrong. But that goes for anyone in any way pressuring someone into sex. Wrong. JM Feb 03 06 03:15 pm Link lll wrote: Hahaha. Doubt it. Hell, I even have my IM info up on my page and I still don't get haunted by GWCs. Besides. I'm picky. I don't sleep with just ANYONE. Feb 03 06 03:19 pm Link I got popcorn, jujubees, and a large soda.....who wants what....did I miss much? Feb 03 06 03:19 pm Link David Moyle wrote: Jujubees are okay, but Sour Patch Kids are better. Feb 03 06 03:27 pm Link David Moyle wrote: Aesa just proclaimed her polyamorous nature...you forgot the Bon-bons didn't you...damn you...I wanted Bon-bons...go back to the counter! Feb 03 06 03:28 pm Link Maybe it's the age, but I was brought up never to kiss and tell. And away from here where I earn my real money, I have always tended to hold at a lower standard those that stand around and talk about who is sleeping with whom. So all those girls I haven't slept with, your secret is safe, and any of those that I might have, it just never happened. Feb 03 06 03:31 pm Link James Jackson wrote: Crap! Feb 03 06 03:34 pm Link Aesa wrote: I'm old school. Feb 03 06 03:36 pm Link David Moyle wrote: Considering I just mentioned that I got my boyfriends permission to sleep with another man? I don't think I came out and said it, but good deduction. Feb 03 06 04:01 pm Link Aesa wrote: I didn't deduce it, the word polyamourous came from the previous poster I quoted. Feb 03 06 04:07 pm Link David Moyle wrote: Wasn't specifying you as the originator of the deduction, just that it was a good one. And true in this case. Feb 03 06 04:23 pm Link Jay Bowman: "And everyone knows that all photographers are ugly or else they would be on the other side of the lens. Further, no self-respecting photographer would admit to it if it actually happened" I am NOT ugly. Have never been on the other side of the lens other than for self-portraits, not because I am a prude, but culturally I found empowerment on this side of the camera. I enjoy the privledges that gives me...seeing things and having experiences I know that many others cannot in the Middle-East. In doing private photoshoots I always took someone with me, and had a driver waiting outside. Given the segregation in Middle-Eastern/arab/muslim society, this was to protect myself first. How easy it could have been for a man to have a women schedule a shoot and in turn hurt me. It's always wiser to be a step ahead. As to having advances made towards me, I have had to leave after a princess tried to grope my breasts, and in the US, threaten a man with a restraining order after he stalked me. We met when I approached him and asked if he would be interested in modeling. All it took was my giving him my card. Yes, there are models who need to lighten up. When they try to be sexy they end up looking like they're trying too hard and the pictures reflect that. It's wonderful when a woman, or a man, is comfortable with their sensuality and sexuality infront of the camera. A little flirting, perhaps even a drink. But more is unwarranted unless one wants a reputation as being unprofessional, regardless what side of the camera one is on. Feb 03 06 04:44 pm Link La Perle Le Paon wrote: I was being sarcastic. Feb 03 06 04:47 pm Link |