ELAN IMAGE STUDIO wrote:
i got male  booyah on , my port... in fact those are my most viewed pics!

And they are great images... I was just commenting on this same subject in another thread "who marked my imags 18+" and thought that it was interesting that a similar thread was going on here.

Sita Mae Edwards wrote:

Jay Dezelic wrote:
I am curious to why female photographers have supported a kind of double standard when it comes to shooting men vs. women for so long.   What happened to women's lib?

Jay, I think there are two different things going on here.  One is that, as I said above, male models are much more difficult to find, particularly when one is working on a project that has no commercial viability, or isn’t for a client. 

In your linked article you said:


I don’t think the dichotomy you’ve drawn is quite right.  I think that it has more to do with what turns men on versus what turns women on.  Visually speaking, of course.  Men often seem to prefer what is seen, whereas women often seem to prefer what is felt/implied/hinted at.  This is a huge sweeping generalization, and I realize it does not apply to everyone.  But I do think there is some truth to it.  Just look at the fact that Playboy is a monster enterprise, whereas Playgirl is mostly known for being sold to gay men.

In contrast, steamy bodice-ripping romance novels fly off the shelves.  Women can’t get enough of them, they gobble them up.  The romance, the seduction, the relationship, the ohmygodIcan’ttakeanymoreofthisintensity kind of vibe is what often draws women in.  I wouldn’t buy Playgirl for myself, but I would (and have) spent money on people like Melvin Moten and D. Brian Nelson.  That’s my kinda porn.  (Sorry Don, I know you hate that word.)

If I can ever get my hands on a male model to put into images what I see in my head, I’ll show you what I mean.

Amelia G wrote:
I enjoy photographing men, as well as women, but it is my experience that people get their panties in a bunch about photographs of men.  We need to grow up a bit about this, as a culture.

Which people do you refer to specifically?  I think that there are a lot of ultra-conservatives that are offended to see scantly-clad or naked women in photos too. - Female photographers, maybe because they are a minority, seem to be generally more timid about breaking new ground in the art world versus their male contemporaries. - This of course is a general statement. I have seen some very captivating work done by female photogs here at MM.  I also think that women photographers have an innate ability to capture the soul of their subjects. - (I've said this on other threads and get a bunch of crap about it, but I don't have another way to explain it.)

Jay Dezelic wrote:

Which people do you refer to specifically?  I think that there are a lot of ultra-conservatives that are offended to see scantly-clad or naked women in photos too. - Female photographers, maybe because they are a minority, seem to be generally more timid about breaking new ground in the art world versus their male contemporaries. - This of course is a general statement. I have seen some very captivating work done by female photogs here at MM.  I also think that women photographers have an innate ability to capture the soul of their subjects. - (I've said this on other threads and get a bunch of crap about it, but I don't have another way to explain it.)

I've lived all over the US and a number of countries in Western Europe, I would say it is an across-the-board American problem, regardless of societal subset.  I don't mean just bible-thumpers at all.  Even people who freak out about female nudity seem to get more distressed about male nudity and people who are just fine with female nudity see red when they see male nudity.

KM von Seidl wrote:
But then the sexual fascists came back in power and as much as the fundies hate photos of nekkid women they really hate photos of nekkid men.

ROTFL!!!  Hear, hear.....!

Wm