e-string wrote:
Yay for smart chicks.

Yourself included...I bet YOU check references

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Just the same, If I were a young model, I'd never go to a shoot alone. I have been a photographer for many years and the sickest craziest people I have ever met were some of my peers.

Thank goodness I live in Minnesota

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Just the same, If I were a young model, I'd never go to a shoot alone. I have been a photographer for many years and the sickest craziest people I have ever met were some of my peers.

That's fine...I'm not saying people can't bring escorts. I'm merely saying an escort is not an assurance of safety nor is a lack of one an assurance of danger. You need to do your homework regardless. I bet the percentage of girls who always check references and have been in a situation where they needed an escort is way lower than you think.

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Just the same, If I were a young model, I'd never go to a shoot alone. I have been a photographer for many years and the sickest craziest people I have ever met were some of my peers.

Clearly you keep good company.

StudioMona wrote:

Thank goodness I live in Minnesota

And Frank Zappa said: Who could imagine they'd freak out in Minnesota

Christopher Ambler wrote:

Clearly you keep good company.

Lol...really...I've only been a model for a year...but it's been my experience that some of the sanest, kindest, most down to earth people I've met have been photographers.

Christopher Ambler wrote:
Clearly you keep good company.

wander around PPA for 20 years, you'll see.

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Just the same, If I were a young model, I'd never go to a shoot alone. I have been a photographer for many years and the sickest craziest people I have ever met were some of my peers.

Come to court with me sometime.  I'll show you what an actual knuckledragging-sicko-rapist really looks like.  I know a couple photographers that might be off center a little, but nothing compared to what you see on the jail docket.

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Just the same, If I were a young model, I'd never go to a shoot alone. I have been a photographer for many years and the sickest craziest people I have ever met were some of my peers.

Your peers, eh?

Kaitlin Lara wrote:

Yourself included...I bet YOU check references

Sure do! But you said it very well, and a fair number of people here seem to pay attention to what you say.

LarryB wrote:

Come to court with me sometime.  I'll show you what an actual knuckledragging-sicko-rapist really looks like.  I know a couple photographers that might be off center a little, but nothing compared to what you see on the jail docket.

I was an evidence photographer for the AZ. State Police. You may or may not belive what I've seen

StudioMona wrote:

Thank goodness I live in Minnesota

Thank goodness I live in Iowa

Kaitlin Lara wrote:

That's fine...I'm not saying people can't bring escorts. I'm merely saying an escort is not an assurance of safety nor is a lack of one an assurance of danger. You need to do your homework regardless. I bet the percentage of girls who always check references and have been in a situation where they needed an escort is way lower than you think.

Exactly.

Have I been in bad situations? Yes.
Have I ever needed an escort? No. I was able to handle it on my own.

Image K wrote:

ha ha haaa!  It'll never stop!  It's like the pro-choice, pro-life debate of modeling!

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Just the same, If I were a young model, I'd never go to a shoot alone. I have been a photographer for many years and the sickest craziest people I have ever met were some of my peers.

It's always heartening to see how much photographers support others in their profession, and how the ones who say "bring escorts" are quick to insist that they're the only safe ones.

LarryB wrote:

Come to court with me sometime.  I'll show you what an actual knuckledragging-sicko-rapist really looks like.  I know a couple photographers that might be off center a little, but nothing compared to what you see on the jail docket.

Man, you are spot on with that.

LarryB wrote:

Hmm, that looks familiar.
I'd just like to add in response to Colegrove's comment that most photographers are deranged creeps:

Image K wrote:

Hey...at least I'm not saying I'm right and everyone else on MM should agree with me I'm just pointing out that escorts aren't an assurance of safety, and research should be done regardless of what you choose to do.

e-string wrote:

Sure do! But you said it very well, and a fair number of people here seem to pay attention to what you say.

Yeah -- I think Erin checked my FBI file as well. She's a very resourceful person.

 

Kaitlin Lara wrote:

Hey...at least I'm not saying I'm right and everyone else on MM should agree with me I'm just pointing out that escorts aren't an assurance of safety, and research should be done regardless of what you choose to do.

I understand that, Kaitlin...

I meant no disrespect.

I just don't see the logic of starting another escort thread when we have too many as it is.

Couldn't you have posted this on an existing thread, instead of starting another?

SLE Photography wrote:
Hmm, that looks familiar.
I'd just like to add in response to Colegrove's comment that most photographers are deranged creeps:

so basically, what you're saying is that most photographers have a propensity to don banana man costumes while parading in the public dirty dancing and waving around  these POOP posters?

SLE Photography wrote:

Hmm, that looks familiar.
I'd just like to add in response to Colegrove's comment that most photographers are deranged creeps:

No, not most only a handfull.

Pat Thielen wrote:

Yeah -- I think Erin checked my FBI file as well. She's a very resourceful person.

 

mwahahaha 

Image K wrote:

I understand that, Kaitlin...

I meant no disrespect.

I just don't see the logic of starting another escort thread when we have too many as it is.

Couldn't you have posted this on an existing thread, instead of starting another?

The existing ones are so clogged up with arguments and drama that no one would ever read what I have to say if I did. That escorts are not an assurance of safety is something that I think is important for models to understand, and I'm sorry if it bothers people to see another escort thread, but if it helps even one model stop behaving in dangerous behavior (ie not checking references) then I don't care how many angry emails I get.

Image K wrote:

tee hehe

Colegrove Photography wrote:
Has anyone here heard the name Chuck or Charles Rathbun?

Why?

Kaitlin Lara wrote:
Why?

I knew him, I even worked on shoots with him.

Ever hear the name Linda Sobek?

Isobel Wren wrote:

ha ha haaa!  It'll never stop!  It's like the pro-choice, pro-life debate of modeling!

I thought that was no-show models versus no-show photographers?

Colegrove Photography wrote:

I knew him, I even worked on shoots with him.

Ever hear the name Linda Sobek?

Rather than testimonials/instances why not offer a statistical perspective on the dangers?  Should the name Harold Shipman be used to frighten the sick?