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Chi - Rue99 Photography
Posts: 1838
San Francisco, California, US
I know some models who do a lot of paid lingerie work. Quite a few shoots are done by studios, so I know this isn't all for just personal portfolios. At the same time, the rates can be awfully high.
But what are most these shots used for? Are they for online sites, local print, web dating service content, or something else? They're just lingerie, so I assume it's not for adult content but the pay is so high that it must be for something, no?
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Doug Vosler
Posts: 932
Redlands, California, US
Half are used for GWC's 
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Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
I don't care what they are used for as long as I get my rate:-)
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Doug Vosler
Posts: 932
Redlands, California, US
Susi wrote:
I don't care what they are used for as long as I get my rate:-) What every GWC loves to hear.
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Mia Mali
Posts: 1638
Los Angeles, California, US
Susi wrote:
I don't care what they are used for as long as I get my rate:-) I hear ya.
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dgold
Posts: 10302
Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US
Susi wrote:
I don't care what they are used for as long as I get my rate:-) God Bless.
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ward
Posts: 6142
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
People pay for lingerie shoots ? hmmm 
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Doug Vosler
Posts: 932
Redlands, California, US
ward wrote:
People pay for lingerie shoots ? hmmm People pay me to shoot them in Lingerie all the time
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UnavailableNonExistant
Posts: 294
Columbus, Ohio, US
Susi wrote:
I don't care what they are used for as long as I get my rate:-) After all, isn't that what models model for?
Too many people take it personally, when it's not personal, just business.
Limits are personal.
Who you shoot with is personal.
This is a business that is over run with people who don't know how to properly conduct business.
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ward
Posts: 6142
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Doug Vosler wrote:
People pay me to shoot them in Lingerie all the time God Doug I hope you're not wearing it when you're shooting...lol Yeah, but I meant, photographers pay ? Not me. Nudies only.
Model
Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Doug Vosler wrote:
What every GWC loves to hear. If they pay then I am fine with it...lol. I mean, I mainly shoot and post art, but paying for those corsets and latex is expensive so if someone wants to pay me to shoot me in a thong then more power to them. I take the money and laugh all the way to the corsetier and my next good shoot:-)
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Doug Vosler
Posts: 932
Redlands, California, US
ward wrote:
God Doug I hope you're not wearing it when you're shooting...lol Yeah, but I meant, photographers pay ? Not me. Nudies only. People pay me to shoot them nude too.
Model
Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Dawn Winter wrote:
After all, isn't that what models model for?
Too many people take it personally, when it's not personal, just business.
Limits are personal.
Who you shoot with is personal.
This is a business that is over run with people who don't know how to properly conduct business. Exactly;-)
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timothy dolph creative
Posts: 409
Encinitas, California, US
Doug Vosler wrote:
People pay me to shoot them nude too. Whoopty Do
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
well one tampa area photog used to sell them to escort websites and the people that produce the "hooker cards" in las vegas...he somehow neglects to tell the models that..they get thier $125 and a couple of overly difused glowed web images...and are happy as clams..well unitl they find out that their images are being used to promote prostitution....
and theres another tampa photog..i think he just uses them as wacking material....cause they never get published anywhere...he says he doesnt pay them..but i think he does...
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Eric Tragedy wrote:
To sell lingerie? not as many gigs shooting for lingerie mfgs and retailers as there are photogs shooting the content...
Makeup Artist
MAGIC FX
Posts: 347
New York, New York, US
Doug Swinskey wrote:
well one tampa area photog used to sell them to escort websites and the people that produce the "hooker cards" in las vegas...he somehow neglects to tell the models that..they get thier $125 and a couple of overly difused glowed web images...and are happy as clams..well unitl they find out that their images are being used to promote prostitution....
and theres another tampa photog..i think he just uses them as wacking material....cause they never get published anywhere...he says he doesnt pay them..but i think he does... "WACKING MATERIAL!!" you are too funny Doug!
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Admiral Frog
Posts: 29088
Roswell, Georgia, US
What is any shoot for that doesn't end up as an ad or hanging on a gallery wall?
Model
Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Doug Swinskey wrote:
well one tampa area photog used to sell them to escort websites and the people that produce the "hooker cards" in las vegas...he somehow neglects to tell the models that..they get thier $125 and a couple of overly difused glowed web images...and are happy as clams..well unitl they find out that their images are being used to promote prostitution....
and theres another tampa photog..i think he just uses them as wacking material....cause they never get published anywhere...he says he doesnt pay them..but i think he does... Of course that's what they do. If any girls are stupid enough to think otherwise then they are, well, stupid! I like to think that if my pictures can help a few guys get off, I've done a public service.
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Iona Lynn
Posts: 11176
Oakland, California, US
Stock images, stripper grams, catalouges, personal use, web content, adult entertainmet ads, submissions to magazeins, poker chips, playing cards, books on buiduar photography, sold to private collectors, fetish magazeins....
Some people are honest about the intent of the where the work is to be sold some are not...
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Iona Lynn
Posts: 11176
Oakland, California, US
Doug Swinskey wrote:
well one tampa area photog used to sell them to escort websites and the people that produce the "hooker cards" in las vegas...he somehow neglects to tell the models that..they get thier $125 and a couple of overly difused glowed web images...and are happy as clams..well unitl they find out that their images are being used to promote prostitution.... What are the models doing in Vegas collecting hooker cards???
*giggles*
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Carl J Speed II
Posts: 2662
San Antonio, Texas, US
a) If the models have a problem with that beforehand, they can negotiate before signing the model release. b) Who cares what people do with pictures of people in the privacy of their own home? And that's a lot of assumption on your part too. Maybe thats the genre he wants to be in, and since photography takes a bit of practice, maybe he's practicing to get to the skill level he'd like to be? Doug Swinskey wrote:
well one tampa area photog used to sell them to escort websites and the people that produce the "hooker cards" in las vegas...he somehow neglects to tell the models that..they get thier $125 and a couple of overly difused glowed web images...and are happy as clams..well unitl they find out that their images are being used to promote prostitution....
and theres another tampa photog..i think he just uses them as wacking material....cause they never get published anywhere...he says he doesnt pay them..but i think he does...
Model
Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Iona Lynn wrote:
Stock images, stripper grams, catalouges, personal use, web content, adult entertainmet ads, submissions to magazeins, poker chips, playing cards, books on buiduar photography, sold to private collectors, fetish magazeins....
Some people are honest about the intent of the where the work is to be sold some are not... You are right about some photogs being honest and others not so much. Most of my art modelling has been on a tfp basis but it's done with people I know and they tell me when it's published or exhibited...which is always exciting for me. When I get paid for images, in general I never see them and I don't ask where they are going...I guess I feel like I'm being paid for them to do as they like with them. I know that's just me...I'm weird...lol:-)
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Fotographia Fantastique
Posts: 17339
White River Junction, Vermont, US
Iona Lynn wrote:
What are the models doing in Vegas collecting hooker cards???
*giggles* Wait, you mean the models on the cards aren't the actual hookers? Man, what has this world come to when you can't even trust the prostitution industry anymore!
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MrE Creations
Posts: 155
I make saucy little greeting cards with all mine!
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Hope Parr
Posts: 726
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
wow... when I grow up I wanna be just like you... get paid next to nothing to shoot someone nude... On second thought I dont want to be broke, I think I will pay my models and make my money back (and then some) doing my own thing. Doug Vosler wrote:
People pay me to shoot them nude too.
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Veteres Vitri
Posts: 1994
MAYLENE, Alabama, US
Susi wrote:
You are right about some photogs being honest and others not so much. Most of my art modelling has been on a tfp basis but it's done with people I know and they tell me when it's published or exhibited...which is always exciting for me. When I get paid for images, in general I never see them and I don't ask where they are going...I guess I feel like I'm being paid for them to do as they like with them. I know that's just me...I'm weird...lol:-) Not wierd at all. When it is a paid gig there are no expectations of the talent recieving any photos. they have allready been compensated.
Model
Iona Lynn
Posts: 11176
Oakland, California, US
Susi wrote:
You are right about some photogs being honest and others not so much. Most of my art modelling has been on a tfp basis but it's done with people I know and they tell me when it's published or exhibited...which is always exciting for me. When I get paid for images, in general I never see them and I don't ask where they are going...I guess I feel like I'm being paid for them to do as they like with them. I know that's just me...I'm weird...lol:-) oodles of agreement.. I work with several that send me a disk of a few images but I don't always see the finish work from photographers who hire me for certain projects.. Sometimes the projects are cool too... drat...
But I'm not getting paid in prints so I have no recourse to demand prints so I try not to think about it...Heck I've gotten screwed out of print payments before. grrrrr
If I'm getting paid in cash I do the best job I can and accept cash as payment and not the images..
Just the same if I hire a model for a project Heck I hired one last month for a client shoot and we never used the images on the print version of the catalouge, they may be used in the future but she got the pay and no tearsheet because the images didn't make the cut..So she won't be getting a terarsheet.. Just pay.
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Hope Parr
Posts: 726
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
I like you Susi wrote:
I like to think that if my pictures can help a few guys get off, I've done a public service.
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Iona Lynn wrote:
What are the models doing in Vegas collecting hooker cards???
*giggles* i know of one model's uncle that was handed a hooker card featuring his 18yo neice...cool huh?
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shotbytim
Posts: 1040
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US
Susi wrote:
I like to think that if my pictures can help a few guys get off, I've done a public service. That's very sweet of you, Susi. I like your attitude. :-)
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Iona Lynn
Posts: 11176
Oakland, California, US
Doug Swinskey wrote:
i know of one model's uncle that was handed a hooker card featuring his 18yo neice...cool huh? Whoops... It can happen that is why I waited so long to actually pursue modeling.. I knew that the wrong people would find out once I started accepting the paid jobs I was being offered... But I'm never runnign for pres and I'm old now so who cares...
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Hope Parr
Posts: 726
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
cool that he was handed a hooker card....if you like that sort of thing.. BTW anyone who does not want one does not have to take one Doug Swinskey wrote:
i know of one model's uncle that was handed a hooker card featuring his 18yo neice...cool huh?
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Mach V Speed wrote:
And that's a lot of assumption on your part too. Maybe thats the genre he wants to be in, and since photography takes a bit of practice, maybe he's practicing to get to the skill level he'd like to be? yeah, thats what it must be (doug rolls eyes)...actually as photographers, the intent of our images are inherantly clear...so a lot of assumption?..well the images and the photographer's manner leave me no choice...but thanks for your thoughts...
Model
Iona Lynn
Posts: 11176
Oakland, California, US
No way Hope, People collect them in vegas...midwestern housewives actaully try to get as many diffrent ones as they can... I think it is a fun little walk on the wild side for some people...
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S W I N S K E Y
Posts: 24376
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Glasslips wrote:
"WACKING MATERIAL!!" you are too funny Doug! it's a medical term, dont laugh....
Model
Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Iona Lynn wrote:
No way Hope, People collect them in vegas...midwestern housewives actaully try to get as many diffrent ones as they can... I think it is a fun little walk on the wild side for some people... I'm going to Vegas in January...can't wait to start a collection of my own!!!:-)
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47532
Olympia, Washington, US
Susi wrote:
I like to think that if my pictures can help a few guys get off, I've done a public service. you can retire now ! you have done your duty to men and and a couple women.
Model
Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
UnoMundo Photography wrote:
you can retire now ! you have done your duty to men and and a couple women. I am waiting for a medal or something first!;-)
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