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how can I learn to direct models with poses. You know,like turn your head this way turn your body that way. That kind of a thing what to do with hands and legs. I have some experience but not that much, would studying magazines help? Thanks for any suggestions. Dec 20 06 03:02 am Link mirror photos Dec 20 06 03:05 am Link with a megaphone. work with me people work with me. Dec 20 06 03:07 am Link Well for general mood and feeling it's fine to get just that, but it's much better to get a little story or to be told some imagery to help the model actually feel the emotion you want to see. It's also good to have examples like "hang your head back loose like a ragdoll" comparisons to things we all know are very helpful. For angular direction the old one o'clock, two o'clock works for me using the photog as noon. Dec 20 06 03:08 am Link Garry k wrote: Eww, I'd never let a model look in a mirror... There will be a whole lot of mirror interaction, and not a lot of interaction with you... Dec 20 06 03:09 am Link Also helps if you the photographer also knows how to pose yourself. Models love it when I show them the pose I want my doing it. After they get done laughing at me they know what to do. It also really helps to break the ice. Even the worse bitch of a model smiles when I do a Betty Boop pose. Dec 20 06 03:13 am Link i tell them to give me the "fuck me" look. they ask what ? i say the look that make me wanna f*ck you. that's the "fuck me" look. look it up in wikipedia. i'm not bullshitting you. Dec 20 06 03:14 am Link Huynh Photography wrote: Aw c'mon! Be orignial. You have poeple depending on you for entertainment when we're bored, you cant use the same lines! Dec 20 06 03:17 am Link And thats when they burst out laughing right ? Ur a funny fello Dec 20 06 03:17 am Link Dec 20 06 03:19 am Link Huynh Photography wrote: Huynh Photography wrote: Huynh Photography wrote: Dec 20 06 05:46 am Link Kevin Connery wrote: Huynh Photography wrote: Huynh Photography wrote: ... and your point ? Dec 20 06 10:55 am Link I have a bunch of torn out pictures from magazines and books to assist when the model gets stuck or in that awkward beginning phase. I pull them out for inspiration for her/him. I also am a trained dancer, all those years staring in a mirror checking my ballet positions help me know how to give the model a little push in the right direction. But they are models. And, after a little nudge, they should be able to do it on their own. Dec 20 06 11:00 am Link i just pull out my secret stash of dirty magazines and convince the models that it's "arts". works every time. Dec 20 06 11:03 am Link MarkW wrote: Step 1: Hire a model that doesn't need direction. Dec 20 06 11:10 am Link The suggestion of working off of images for inspiration to start with is a really good one. I've done that with a couple photograhers, and it really works out well. After you this the pose, then you naturally start adjusting it so that its yours. The inspiration is very helpful. Other than that, having a clear idea in mind for what kind of look you are trying to shoot is a good place to start. Even if *you* need to go find inspiration from a magazine before the shoot, thats ok. So long as you have an idea. I've worked with photographers that had no clue what they wanted to do with me after I showed up, and it made for some pretty awkward boring images. If you hire me, and don't have any idea what you want to do with me, you'll end up disappointed, and I will end up frustrated. Practice, that will help  Dec 20 06 11:10 am Link i'm going to copyright my methods and place a patent on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom%27s_di … del_method Dec 20 06 11:11 am Link Daniela V wrote: Regarding number 1: This is personally how I work. If you've hired me, I expect that you have an idea of what you want to see through your lens. I do not expect to have to support the entire shoot coming up with ideas as to where you want me, what kind of presence you want me to have, and what to wear. I can offer you the clothes that I have in my wardrobe, and will do so gladly. But I simply can not be expected to pull the ideas out of your head. Thats as bad as pulling teeth. Dec 20 06 11:16 am Link Ok. Let's get back to helping this guy, ok? These rants really get annoying. In my experience, since I shoot a lot of beginning models, I need to direct a fair amount. There are just simple guidelines that you should follow like lines and movement showing in the body and simply looking at your models face and seeing how it's best presented. Take the time and sit with the model and ask them to move thier face along with your direction as you look at them. They will see that you are serious and will trust that you really want to see them look their best. Of course, there are "rules" about how to shoot faces like not breaking the cheek line with the nose and such. All goes the same with men or women. Of course men are more difficult to pose. Perhaps you get a bit nervous when shooting, I don't know, but try to remember to just look at your subject. It's easy to not do that even though you are photographing them. Slow down and focus. Ask them to move until you actually see something that really looks great then change it a little from there for variety. Just keep trying and you'll get it eventually. Hope this helps, David Dec 20 06 11:17 am Link NC17 wrote: Aw- kisses- I admire you too Dec 20 06 11:19 am Link Work with models that actually take the time to learn their craft, this is a big help! Too many times photogs are enable the model and do not ask them to do their homework before a shoot. The model should know to buy mag's with picture. This should be easy seeing how no reading is required on the models part. Dec 20 06 11:19 am Link I tell them stories too. Dec 20 06 11:19 am Link Emotive Photography wrote: and tell them to bring big...sunglasses Dec 20 06 11:20 am Link Frequently, I only direct as needed. More in terms of video than stills. But if I want a specific style for a set (sexy, scared, etc) I'll say that outright. Most of my direction in terms of stills is in the form of "look in this direction", "look at your wrists", "head back" "eyes shut", etc. But then again, really good models shouldn't NEED a whole lot of direction! Dec 20 06 11:20 am Link Iris Swope wrote: I have a mirror hanging close to where I do a lot of shooting in my home studio. I always take it down before a model shows up for a shoot because of that problem in the past....lol Dec 20 06 11:22 am Link Daniela V wrote: Haha! See I've been there. Sometimes I don't mind if the photographer moves me by hand. Please ask first, and once I'm comfortable with you, its ok. Dec 20 06 11:28 am Link find a model that you can wine, dine, and sixtynine with. discuss these things while in bed. it's very informal, and the models will appreciate that you really do care. Dec 20 06 11:31 am Link Huynh Photography wrote: Dude, give it a friggin' rest already! It wasn't funny the first time, and it's not funny the 987th time. Dec 20 06 11:33 am Link Daniela V wrote: LOL,,,big sunglasses are a MUST!!! But the MUA was none thrilled LMAO! yea she totally need to work together! Dec 20 06 11:36 am Link I prefer the "Fuck You" look over the "Fuck Me" look. One strategy that works well, although makes you look like a total doof, is to demonstrate a pose yourself. Dec 20 06 11:45 am Link I dunno, I say pose "this way" and they do. Sometimes I say, "move your arm to the left." I understand the question though. I think it just takes time to learn to express to the model what you want, but I think you will find that, before long, it will come natural to you. Dec 20 06 11:48 am Link The only way to do it is to do it. Every time I shoot a model, I get a little bit better at directing her to achieve the pose which will produce the image I want. I have a long way to go, but it does come with time. Looking at a LOT of photographs, and considering what does and doesn't work in them, also helps. M Dec 20 06 12:45 pm Link wirehead arts wrote: I am 6'2", 230#, and have a full beard. The only result I get when attempting to demonstrate a sexy pose or an expression is hilarious laughter. Dec 20 06 12:46 pm Link MarkW wrote: Experience. Remember what does and does not look good. Direct accordingly. Dec 20 06 01:06 pm Link Huynh Photography wrote: Huynh Photography wrote: Putting your "answer" into context. Huynh Photography wrote: Why? Anyone with even basic computer skills could do it. If anything, it's harder to NOT find what you've said. MarkW wrote: Practice. Dec 20 06 04:10 pm Link Huynh Photography wrote: notice to all photogs that does NOT work. If i hear that i am grossed out and immediately shut down mentally. Do you really think youre goignt to get the sexy look u want from a girl by saing something stupid like that? For me its a total put off. Dec 20 06 04:17 pm Link StMarc wrote: Hilarious---------exactly the way I feel, but so far I just hear the histerics when they close the door to get changed............ Dec 20 06 04:21 pm Link Work with a model who knows how to pose. Then tell her, to move maybe more to her left or right. Look up, look down, look at the camera, look away to your right or left. Move your arm up,arch your back. It helps when she knows left and right. It's really not hard at all. If she has a good camera sense. Dec 20 06 04:23 pm Link One thing that helps the mood....and with poses is music. I have a mirror (yes ...it helps allot, especially with newbies), candles and music....ALWAYS in the studio. I also will ask the model to bring music that inspires her....makes her feel sexy or she likes to dance to. Drop in the CD....and off we go. I had a shoot the other night with multiple changes. The first was cute and laid back...kinda catalog material...she then changed into something very sexy....but was still posing and acting cute and coy....not sexy. I said look in the mirror...do you see JC Penny or Maxim......she got the point....and we started up the music and off we went. So there's that....music my freinds....IS the key to all. Cheers, Scotland Dec 20 06 04:42 pm Link i'm going to be serious for a moment. chit chat. break the ice with some funny jokes. have a little conversation to get the model comfortable and out of that mode. keep a safe distant. it is ok to nudge the model once in a while. adjust their posture. Dec 20 06 04:48 pm Link |
