Each state we looked at had their unique blend of kinks and fetishes. By adding up the search values for each kink, we determined which had the most investment in their kinks. Here are the top 10, based on the combined search value:

Oregon (1,583)
Kentucky (1,562)
Oklahoma (1,550)
Michigan (1,542)
Ohio (1,541)
Missouri (1,502)
Indiana (1,494)
Pennsylvania (1,489)
Washington (1,453)
Virginia (1,440)
https://www.innerbody.com/which-us-stat … e-kinkiest

Perhaps the honorable senator from Oklahoma expressed a problem right on the tip of his tongue?.

Znude! wrote:
Seems like there was a battle at the Supreme Court with some guy named Larry Flint a while back about something like that.

One could've said the same thing about Roe, but the current Supreme Court has shown that precedent is irrelevant in some cases.

Znude! wrote:
Seems like there was a battle at the Supreme Court with some guy named Larry Flint a while back about something like that.

Supreme Court?  What Supreme Court?  The one stacked with zealots from a list from the Federalist Society?  The one that will be gutted by the guy running on the platform of being a dictator if elected or if he is successful in his next coup attempt?  The one that we will have once it becomes legal for a president to assassinate political opponents?


(Oops, my mistake.  It is already legal for a president to assassinate political opponents.  We just had not had our dictator in the White House deploy the right to cross that line yet..)

JSouthworth wrote:
Oh dear, more retarded uselessness from people who should really know better. Do they think they can they dis-invent the internet and nuclear weapons as well as photography?

I can support hard line policies on drugs, because that's something that clearly has a negative effect on society, most crime is drug-related. So you can make a case for saying that if someone sells or deals hard drugs, they should die.

Totally off-topic as usual, but go ahead. Make the case. Love to hear it.

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
When executive Order 9066 was dropped I bet many said, "That's totally Unconstitutional, no way they can enforce this."

Many more were in favor. Roosevelt himself had a history of anti Asian-American prejudice. Despite "No Japanese-American citizen or Japanese national residing in the United States was ever found guilty of sabotage or espionage," the Order was not officially terminated until 1976 by Gerald Ford.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066

War hysteria, and racism (sorry, Nikki) were, are, and probably always will be an excuse to suspend liberties when an existential threat is claimed. Not only can it happen here. It IS happening here:

"“Our southern border has been erased and our country is being invaded by millions and millions of unknown people, many of whom are entering for a very bad and sinister reason. And you know what that reason is."  -Donald J Trump 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/politics … index.html

JSouthworth wrote:
They would have little chance of enforcing such a law successfully even if they employed an army of people to do it. Any serious attempt to enforce it could result in their legal system being backed up with cases for several years.

Q. What do you do if there's something you don't like and want to ban, but you can't define it properly?
A. It's no problem. You just ban everything.

This reminds me of the film Equilibrium, set in a dystopic future city in which anything that might provoke an emotional response, including books and artworks is banned, and all citizens are obliged to take Prozium, a drug that suppresses the emotions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equilibrium_(film)

JSouthworth wrote:
They would have little chance of enforcing such a law successfully even if they employed an army of people to do it. Any serious attempt to enforce it could result in their legal system being backed up with cases for several years.

Pretty dumb reason not to pass a law. FYI The backlog already exists,

GROWING BACKLOG OF COURT CASES DELAYS JUSTICE FOR CRIME VICTIMS AND THE ACCUSED

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/growing-ba … e-accused/

So what is your solution? Repeal criminal law to ease the backlog? 😂😂😂

And FTR, I am opposed to the bill in question.

Znude! wrote:
Seems like there was a battle at the Supreme Court with some guy named Larry Flint a while back about something like that.

This is a very different supreme court. I don't put anything pass them.

Model Mayhem Edu wrote:
"An Oklahoma anti-porn bill could outlaw any sort of sexualized image — pornographic or not — and ban sending nude photographs outside of marriage."
https://petapixel.com/2024/01/23/an-okl … hotograph/

I don't think Hollywood would let that happen. OR there would be few movies available in the state. Hell, all the streaming services would have to reduce their catalog of films and TV shows. No Spartacus, True Blood, etc.

So sick of conservatives and their bullshit! Amazing the party always crying about freedom is the one always trying to take it from people in the name of freedom.

JSouthworth wrote:
They would have little chance of enforcing such a law successfully even if they employed an army of people to do it. Any serious attempt to enforce it could result in their legal system being backed up with cases for several years.

That's cute. People thought there was no way the Roe decision would be reversed yet here we are. Never underestimate the power of groups of stupid people to fuck shit up for everyone.

Model Mayhem Edu wrote:
"An Oklahoma anti-porn bill could outlaw any sort of sexualized image — pornographic or not — and ban sending nude photographs outside of marriage."
https://petapixel.com/2024/01/23/an-okl … photograph

Wow!  The way this reads it would become a felony to watch most R-rated movies.

Jefferson Cole wrote:
Only American politicians are ignorant enough to believe they can legislate morality.

Well the levels of stupidity they aspire to are staggering!

DeaqonJames wrote:
Well the levels of stupidity they aspire to are staggering!

When an ignorant political beginner moved into the White House, I moved to Bohemia, with no plans to leave.

Sex Is a positive, natural thing here, we do as we like.

Studio NSFW wrote:
Thank Goodness there never has been *any* political turmoil in “Bohemia”…

That said, I am genuinely curious,  do you have a second language?  Some of us on the smoking and rumbling slopes of Vesuvius are looking for the exit, but are limiting the search to English speaking countries…which means many of the options are equally unpalatable for this student of history.

And, to bring things back on topic, those readers still in the states who find the topic of a state level pornography ban disturbing should google “Project 2025” and familiarize yourself with what is on paper as the Christian Nationalist agenda for this country.

I never claimed no "political turmoil" in Bohemia, but a corrupt system here was bloodlessly defeated by ordinary citizens, and replaced with sane leadership.

I have foreign language skills, having been educated abroad in a successful, modern democracy where university education is free.

All of my classmates were from various countries, yet everyone had diverse language skills, none were American. It would be well worth it to develop language skills to be able to live safely in more stable countries.

Mandatory, student comprehensive health insurance for me was $40.0 per semester

Sexual themes aren’t demonized here, as fanatical Puritans never got a foothold in Central Europe.

It’s widely understood that Bohemians know how to have fun.

Studio NSFW wrote:
Well, that's great for you.  Congrats on finding your way.

Thank you!

2 Great fiends, one American, one European were dedicated to helping me to a new life.

Hunter  GWPB wrote:

Supreme Court?  What Supreme Court?  The one stacked with zealots from a list from the Federalist Society?  The one that will be gutted by the guy running on the platform of being a dictator if elected or if he is successful in his next coup attempt?  The one that we will have once it becomes legal for a president to assassinate political opponents?


(Oops, my mistake.  It is already legal for a president to assassinate political opponents.  We just had not had our dictator in the White House deploy the right to cross that line yet..)

Hunter  GWPB wrote:
The goal of Republicans these days seems to be to fulfill the desire to institute a government that squashes freedoms and demands moral and social ideology that most of the people of the country have demonstrated they do not want through the popular vote.  History has indicated that such a government would require strict law enforcement with secret police being ready to pounce on their neighbors and enrich their friends.  Is it more desirable to have the White faux-Christian Nationalist enforce their version of Sharia Law?

Such an internal spy organization was developing in this country back in the Hoover FBI, but Americans dismantled much of it as they chose the consequences of freedom over oppression.  We have seen this paragon of secret police under the communists and the fascist.  "At its height, the Securitate [Romania] employed some 11,000 agents and had half a million informers for a country with a population of 22 million by 1985. Under Ceaușescu, the Securitate was one of the most brutal secret police forces in the world, responsible for the arrests, torture, and deaths of thousands of people."[1]  The security enforcers enriched themselves and maintain that wealth for themselves and their successor generations.  "Today, nine security services, the heirs of the Securitate colossus, operate behind the scenes in Romania, or, in some cases, openly – to manipulate politics and enrich their members at the expense of ordinary Romanians." As a result the security forces that existed before the 1989 fight for democracy in Romania shot and killed 940 people for protesting.  Despite the call for democracy and freedom from the people, Romania remains a state with an extreme security budget and an intrusive secret police force. [2]

Chinese friends who live in America and Laos have begun to tell me that China is reverting back to the old ways where people inform the authorities of the activities of their neighbors, and a significant Chinese communication platform, WeChat, is not a safe space to talk as it is heavily monitored by the government.  In 1989 the people of China were also crying out for greater freedoms.  It resulted in the murder of thousands of civilians at Tiananmen Square and other locations and the arrest of multides as the Tiananmen Square protest had spread around the country.  Instead of greater freedom, government "reaction to the protests set limits on political expression in China that have lasted up to the present day."[3]

The parallels are frightening.  Red states, as did the Red States of China and Russia, have moved to limit freedoms regarding protests, defining many peaceful protests as criminal, and increasing the severity of the penalty.  Red states have moved to suppress the votes of the people less likely to vote to embellish the power of the right.  Red states and red governments have moved to diminish the First Amendment freedoms of the people through book bans and censorship, as illustrated by this thread. 

In a move similar to what the Chinese Communists did, the American Insurrectionist of 2020-21 have attempted to rename and redefine their heavy handed tactics. "The Chinese government has used numerous names for the event since 1989.  As the events unfolded, it was labeled a "counterrevolutionary rebellion", which was later changed to simply "riot", followed by "political turmoil" and "1989 storm".[3]

A sex offender, as determined by jury, who is also known for bemoaning that he couldn't simply order peaceful protestors around St. John's to be shot, and he sullenly had to settle for the use of tear gas and riot control measures to move peaceful protestors away from his chosen site for a photo op, has obviously already expressed a desire for the heavy handed methods of the communists and regimes with the worst human rights records on the planet.  (Their wasn't a single Bible in the White House he could use for his propaganda ploy and take the pic in the Oval Office?) 

Worse yet is the outright calls and campaign strategy by the leading Republican contender for his party's nomination for president, to implement a government which will permit him to eschew democracy for a day to disregard and dismantle the work of democracy and the will of the people according to his dictates.  We all know that such an improper undertaking cannot be accomplished in a day, so a dictatorship for a moment will result in a dictatorship for decades, with the support of ideologically staked courts and the continuation of daily propaganda pronouncements labeling good as evil and evil as good.

As mentioned by our colleagues, such a law as proposed in Oklahoma, where "the wavin’ wheat can sure smell sweet,"[5] is virtually unenforceable on a grand scale.  What then, would be the logical next step except a secret police force and a land of informants who will squeal to the authorities for each true or false perceived slight of new laws which limit our freedoms of expression?  There will be no more women in bikinis on our beaches, nor their photos in our cell phones.  Perhaps we will all be required to have a phone wallpaper of trump with his fist raised- as he so often does, like the communists of 1924 in Germany and henceforth.  ("The raised fist, or the clenched fist, is a long-standing image of mixed meaning, often a symbol of solidarity, especially with a political movement. It is a common symbol representing a wide range of political ideologies, most notably socialism, communism, anarchism, ...."[4])

God bless America.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securitate
[2) https://balkaninsight.com/2021/02/03/lo … to-riches/
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tian … d_massacre
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist
[5] https://rodgersandhammerstein.com/song/ … /oklahoma/

Hunter  GWPB wrote:
The goal of Republicans these days seems to be to fulfill the desire to institute a government that squashes freedoms and demands moral and social ideology that most of the people of the country have demonstrated they do not want through the popular vote.  History has indicated that such a government would require strict law enforcement with secret police being ready to pounce on their neighbors and enrich their friends.  Is it more desirable to have the White faux-Christian Nationalist enforce their version of Sharia Law?

Such an internal spy organization was developing in this country back in the Hoover FBI, but Americans dismantled much of it as they chose the consequences of freedom over oppression.  We have seen this paragon of secret police under the communists and the fascist.  "At its height, the Securitate [Romania] employed some 11,000 agents and had half a million informers for a country with a population of 22 million by 1985. Under Ceaușescu, the Securitate was one of the most brutal secret police forces in the world, responsible for the arrests, torture, and deaths of thousands of people."[1]  The security enforcers enriched themselves and maintain that wealth for themselves and their successor generations.  "Today, nine security services, the heirs of the Securitate colossus, operate behind the scenes in Romania, or, in some cases, openly – to manipulate politics and enrich their members at the expense of ordinary Romanians." As a result the security forces that existed before the 1989 fight for democracy in Romania shot and killed 940 people for protesting.  Despite the call for democracy and freedom from the people, Romania remains a state with an extreme security budget and an intrusive secret police force. [2]

Chinese friends who live in America and Laos have begun to tell me that China is reverting back to the old ways where people inform the authorities of the activities of their neighbors, and a significant Chinese communication platform, WeChat, is not a safe space to talk as it is heavily monitored by the government.  In 1989 the people of China were also crying out for greater freedoms.  It resulted in the murder of thousands of civilians at Tiananmen Square and other locations and the arrest of multides as the Tiananmen Square protest had spread around the country.  Instead of greater freedom, government "reaction to the protests set limits on political expression in China that have lasted up to the present day."[3]

The parallels are frightening.  Red states, as did the Red States of China and Russia, have moved to limit freedoms regarding protests, defining many peaceful protests as criminal, and increasing the severity of the penalty.  Red states have moved to suppress the votes of the people less likely to vote to embellish the power of the right.  Red states and red governments have moved to diminish the First Amendment freedoms of the people through book bans and censorship, as illustrated by this thread. 

In a move similar to what the Chinese Communists did, the American Insurrectionist of 2020-21 have attempted to rename and redefine their heavy handed tactics. "The Chinese government has used numerous names for the event since 1989.  As the events unfolded, it was labeled a "counterrevolutionary rebellion", which was later changed to simply "riot", followed by "political turmoil" and "1989 storm".[3]

A sex offender, as determined by jury, who is also known for bemoaning that he couldn't simply order peaceful protestors around St. John's to be shot, and he sullenly had to settle for the use of tear gas and riot control measures to move peaceful protestors away from his chosen site for a photo op, has obviously already expressed a desire for the heavy handed methods of the communists and regimes with the worst human rights records on the planet.  (Their wasn't a single Bible in the White House he could use for his propaganda ploy and take the pic in the Oval Office?) 

Worse yet is the outright calls and campaign strategy by the leading Republican contender for his party's nomination for president, to implement a government which will permit him to eschew democracy for a day to disregard and dismantle the work of democracy and the will of the people according to his dictates.  We all know that such an improper undertaking cannot be accomplished in a day, so a dictatorship for a moment will result in a dictatorship for decades, with the support of ideologically staked courts and the continuation of daily propaganda pronouncements labeling good as evil and evil as good.

As mentioned by our colleagues, such a law as proposed in Oklahoma, where "the wavin’ wheat can sure smell sweet,"[5] is virtually unenforceable on a grand scale.  What then, would be the logical next step except a secret police force and a land of informants who will squeal to the authorities for each true or false perceived slight of new laws which limit our freedoms of expression?  There will be no more women in bikinis on our beaches, nor their photos in our cell phones.  Perhaps we will all be required to have a phone wallpaper of trump with his fist raised- as he so often does, like the communists of 1924 in Germany and henceforth.  ("The raised fist, or the clenched fist, is a long-standing image of mixed meaning, often a symbol of solidarity, especially with a political movement. It is a common symbol representing a wide range of political ideologies, most notably socialism, communism, anarchism, ...."[4])

God bless America.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securitate
[2) https://balkaninsight.com/2021/02/03/lo … to-riches/
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tian … d_massacre
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_fist
[5] https://rodgersandhammerstein.com/song/ … /oklahoma/

I hope EVERYONE that clicks on to this thread READS your comment, because it's not just an issue of Donald Trump, but the people who are behind his attempts to get back in the White House.  The Project 2025 being promoted by the Christian Nationalists is absolutely terrifying!   Trump is using Hitler's playbook!  Trump is not a one man wrecking crew, there are various people he would put in his Administration who would destroy our Democracy as the people that kept him within the boundaries of the law have been removed.  I am seriously considering moving to another country is Trump gets elected again. I will stay as long as I can to fight for women, minorities of various ethnicities, LBGTQI+, and/or anyone who might be oppressed by a new regime.  I want to see our government focus on dealing with poverty, healthcare, climate change, human rights, and freedom of the press.  No one has provided me with evidence that convinces me that Trump would not be  a "dictator" for more than one day.  Abortion and pornography would still be available for the wealthy only.

DeaqonJames wrote:

This is a very different supreme court. I don't put anything pass them.

Very much so!  I do not trust the "conservatives" to consider the rights of ALL PEOPLE!  These are terrifying times!

Patrick Walberg wrote:
Very much so!  I do not trust the "conservatives" to consider the rights of ALL PEOPLE!  These are terrifying times!

I could see this Supreme Court leveraging our existing obscenity laws, this is already an exception to the first amendment that's merely been weakened over the last century by prior courts because they couldn't figure out - or were unwilling to - define it, leaving it to the discretion of judges and juries around the country. The state always lost on First Amendment grounds when the cases reached Federal appeals court until the state stopped trying.

As there is still no federal law specifying it, given the consistency of this Supreme Court I could see them strengthening it and punting it back to the states to figure out.

The current standard is whether something is obsessively sexual or erotic kink related and of those things "whether a reasonable person finds that the matter, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."

Studio NSFW wrote:
And, to bring things back on topic, those readers still in the states who find the topic of a state level pornography ban disturbing should google “Project 2025” and familiarize yourself with what is on paper as the Christian Nationalist agenda for this country.

Been learning about this for past couple of weeks. They want to criminalize porn. Which should worry all of us here. As their definition of what is consider porn is petty huge. The Sear Catalog is porn in their eyes. An illustrated children's book of non-traditional families is porn to them.