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Model

Erin Divine

Posts: 9

Chattanooga, Tennessee, US

I've had this happen 2 or 3 times now, and each time I am not really sure about it. Basically someone - a photographer, agency rep, model manager, male model - starts a conversation through Facebook or Instagram which ends up in "Please send me photos for evaluation of your talent."  To which I tend to reply that my best work is already posted on model mayhem and Instagram. Yes, I have other photos on my computer, but I don't consider them to be any better than what I have already posted. It's hard for me to articulate what makes me uncomfortable about these interactions. One thing is that they tend to be very urgent and insistent about it. But also, if they are simply "evaluating my talent" and I point them to my model mayhem page (or eventually my website), then shouldn't that be sufficient? Partly, I am uncomfortable firing off high-res images to someone on the internet smply because they asked for them. I would be interested to hear from models who have been approached in this way and also photographers and how they feel about their copywrighted images being shared.

Jun 30 19 12:16 pm Link

Photographer

Jason McKendricks

Posts: 6030

Chico, California, US

Are these people approaching you first? I smell something fishy going on. Trust your instincts.

Jun 30 19 12:21 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9782

Bellingham, Washington, US

You have a good selection on your MM port.
If these requests come from agency specific email addresses then you could contact the agency directly to see what they need. Odds are they've never heard of this person and it is a fake email account. Not that hard to set up.

If they are just random Bubbas with gmail accounts, I would simply block them and move on.

There is no good reason for a photographer to need high resolution images to evaluate the possibility of working with you.

Jun 30 19 12:23 pm Link

Photographer

ROUA IMAGES

Posts: 232

Phoenix, Arizona, US

It's doubtful you're missing any significant opportunities (if ignoring, refusing to comply with, or opting to block the users) when it comes to these kinds of requests as they are most likely driven by ulterior motives.

Simply put:  If they're genuinely associated with "industry" (real industry, not Instagram-based "Talent Scouts", etc.) and actually had an interest in working with or representing you, they'd approach it entirely differently and with no need or request for you to email them directly with further or additional hi-res images. 

*It's rare that any person who is in a position or capability to significantly escalate one's career or visibility  (Agency, Talent Scout, Model Manager, etc.) approaches models in this manner for "Talent Evaluation," let alone reaching out via Instagram at all.

As far as requests from photographers, specifically...

Shadow Dancer wrote:
There is no good reason for a photographer to need high resolution images to evaluate the possibility of working with you.

Agreed.

Jun 30 19 02:12 pm Link

Photographer

Marc S Photography

Posts: 145

Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

ROUA IMAGES wrote:
It's doubtful you're missing any significant opportunities (if ignoring, refusing to comply with, or opting to block the users) when it comes to these kinds of requests as they are most likely driven by ulterior motives.

Simply put:  If they're genuinely associated with "industry" (real industry, not Instagram-based "Talent Scouts", etc.) and actually had an interest in working with or representing you, they'd approach it entirely differently and with no need or request for you to email them directly with further or additional hi-res images. 

*It's rare that any person who is in a position or capability to significantly escalate one's career or visibility  (Agency, Talent Scout, Model Manager, etc.) approaches models in this manner for "Talent Evaluation," let alone reaching out via Instagram at all.

As far as requests from photographers, specifically...


Agreed.

Ditto

Jun 30 19 02:48 pm Link

Photographer

G Reese

Posts: 927

Marion, Indiana, US

I agree with others. No way would I send hires images. In your case, I'd fear what came next.

Jun 30 19 05:23 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I agree with everyone else.  Don't send out high res images!

Jun 30 19 06:11 pm Link

Photographer

Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21554

Chicago, Illinois, US

Going to play devil's advocate here and say why not share high res images if asked by a legitimate agent or anyone else.   Especially someone who you may expect to pay you or who has great work.  I'd ask the person why they needed the photos and if their reason was sound share them.

Jul 01 19 06:35 am Link

Photographer

Rob Photosby

Posts: 4813

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Going to play devil's advocate here and say why not share high res images if asked by a legitimate agent or anyone else.   Especially someone who you may expect to pay you or who has great work.  I'd ask the person why they needed the photos and if their reason was sound share them.

The OP  has already given a very good reason for not sharing in that she probably does not own the copyright and is not free to share without the express written permission of the copyright holder.  If only other models were equally aware of this issue, we would all be better off.

Jul 01 19 06:52 am Link

Photographer

Rob Photosby

Posts: 4813

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Ayla Gray wrote:
"Please send me photos for evaluation of your talent."

Anybody who is too lazy to look at your portfolio before making the above request is not worth working with.

Anybody who is unable to evaluate your (not inconsiderable) talent after inspecting your portfolio is not worth working with.

Jul 01 19 06:55 am Link

Photographer

Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21554

Chicago, Illinois, US

Rob Photosby wrote:

The OP  has already given a very good reason for not sharing in that she probably does not own the copyright and is not free to share without the express written permission of the copyright holder.  If only other models were equally aware of this issue, we would all be better off.

Publication of an image isn't the same as sending a high resolution image and again I see few reasons not to share some if asked by a potential photographer or client.   Again I would ask why they would want the photo.   Websites like this 'compress' images and maybe they want to see details....  I don't know why someone would want a high res. shot but in the world I come from you do what possible clients ask for.

Jul 01 19 07:02 am Link

Artist/Painter

Hunter GWPB

Posts: 8287

King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, US

A suggestion for a graceful way to handle these requests:  My usage license with my photographers does not allow me to forward any copies of the images and they do not provide me with high res images, anyway.  My portfolio is all I can offer at this time.

Jul 01 19 09:57 am Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11272

Seattle, Washington, US

I bet they ask hi-res nude photos too?

Jul 01 19 02:23 pm Link

Photographer

Loki Studio

Posts: 3523

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

While certainly most of these requests are scams, I usually don't want to see a model's social media.  I want to see 3-5 great recent photos and I don't want to have to sort through tons of other irrelevant, old, or amateur pics.  However, even then there is no good reason to send hi re photos to anybody who does not actually book you work.  Anyone who wants to work with you should be able to provide 3 model references to validate their reputation.

Jul 01 19 02:56 pm Link

Photographer

Yani S

Posts: 1101

Los Angeles, California, US

Since your a Model. It be easy to just say that's the highest rez. you have of the images. If they push it. Just tell them that's all the photographer would given you. Images that where made for the Internet. As a photographer they should understand that.

Jul 02 19 10:28 am Link

Photographer

Camerosity

Posts: 5805

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

If they need high-rez images, most likely they're for making prints (to sell?), submit them for publication, sell them as stock, or post them for download on a porn site.

Jul 02 19 01:40 pm Link

Photographer

Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21554

Chicago, Illinois, US

Jesus... some of you folks.   Anyone today can download thousands of high resolution great images of nude models for FREE.  Do you think for a second some magazine is going to publish photos of a model with no release?  Again, OP judge the request by who's asking.   If its a male model, no.   Random photographer, no.   Possible paying client or agent then possibly, yes.

Jul 02 19 11:35 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9782

Bellingham, Washington, US

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Jesus... some of you folks.   Anyone today can download thousands of high resolution great images of nude models for FREE.  Do you think for a second some magazine is going to publish photos of a model with no release?  Again, OP judge the request by who's asking.   If its a male model, no.   Random photographer, no.   Possible paying client or agent then possibly, yes.

Last September 50 million accounts were hacked on Facebook.
https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity- … ed-to.html 
One of many articles on the topic.

Since then, they have clamped down - on hiding their instances of hacking. Their stock dipped for one thing, it's just not good PR.

Currently Facebook, Instagram and others are having issues worldwide. Most photos are not currently showing on Facebook, at least I can't see them.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/tech/fac … uN8Fi3winc

Another round of hacking.

And you are going to identify who the legitimate players are exactly how?
Good luck with that, you are on your own!!!!

My Fakebook account is fake, made with a fake gmail account. It was super easy. There are TONS of fake accounts with absurd names like mine and tons more with more "realistic" names. Many are fake acocunts of legitimate businesses.

If a huge multi billion dollar company like Fakebook cannot sort these things out or keep up with them, who can?

Jul 03 19 11:13 am Link

Photographer

Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21554

Chicago, Illinois, US

Shadow Dancer wrote:

Last September 50 million accounts were hacked on Facebook.
https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity- … ed-to.html 
One of many articles on the topic.

Since then, they have clamped down - on hiding their instances of hacking. Their stock dipped for one thing, it's just not good PR.

Currently Facebook, Instagram and others are having issues worldwide. Most photos are not currently showing on Facebook, at least I can't see them.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/tech/fac … uN8Fi3winc

Another round of hacking.

And you are going to identify who the legitimate players are exactly how?
Good luck with that, you are on your own!!!!

My Fakebook account is fake, made with a fake gmail account. It was super easy. There are TONS of fake accounts with absurd names like mine and tons more with more "realistic" names. Many are fake acocunts of legitimate businesses.

If a huge multi billion dollar company like Fakebook cannot sort these things out or keep up with them, who can?

How does what you've written connect to anything?   If a possible paying client or high level photographer or even a real world magazine or agency asks for a high resolution image you send it.    Someone has suggested maybe a magazine plans to publish the shot.   Really?   I can't imagine any sane published doing so without a release.   Another is maybe the plan is to sell the photos?   This when anyone can download beautiful large resolution images for FREE .   

I think the idea is to find out exactly why they need the files.   Several years ago a magazine reached out to me about something I shot.   I was asked for the RAW files.   I don't shoot RAW then or now and I told them I didn't have any RAW files to share.   Never heard from them again.  It was a real magazine you could buy at the time on newsstands.  Today thousands of companies and photographers are on social media.   Its likely in most cases its some goof asking but lets pretend for a moment it isn't.    What does the OP lose by sending the photos as requested.   Oh, yeah the secret plan is to have them ready to be downloaded on a porn site.   Yeap, there aren't billions of pornographic photos and videos available  already.

Jul 04 19 01:44 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9782

Bellingham, Washington, US

Tony Lawrence wrote:
I think the idea is to find out exactly why they need the files.

No, the idea is to find out who is actually asking for the photo.
Identity theft is an epidemic.
If the identity is established and it is legitmate, then a model could contact the photographer (and copyright holder) regarding an image.

Do what ever your want, tell all the long since past anecdotal stories you want.
In your own example, you did not have a RAW file. I've never given any model a RAW file, ever. They don't need one, they need a finished .JPG file that they can post on the internet. A very few need a print, that can be negotiated.
So where are these "high resolution files" even going to come from in the first place? Answer, the photographer/copyright holder.

"Somebody asks for a photo, just send it." is and will remain very poor advice. It isn't your photo just because you have possession of a copy of it.

Jul 04 19 01:58 pm Link

Photographer

Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21554

Chicago, Illinois, US

Shadow Dancer wrote:

No, the idea is to find out who is actually asking for the photo.
Identity theft is an epidemic.
If the identity is established and it is legitmate, then a model could contact the photographer (and copyright holder) regarding an image.

Do what ever your want, tell all the long since past anecdotal stories you want.
In your own example, you did not have a RAW file. I've never given any model a RAW file, ever. They don't need one, they need a finished .JPG file that they can post on the internet. A very few need a print, that can be negotiated.
So where are these "high resolution files" even going to come from in the first place? Answer, the photographer/copyright holder.

"Somebody asks for a photo, just send it." is and will remain very poor advice. It isn't your photo just because you have possession of a copy of it.

Okay then ask the photographer if its okay to send the image.   I mentioned RAW but the OP only said high resolution image.   Identify theft?   Some of you folks come up with all kinds of convoluted reasoning.   I know some of you think your work is special but 99% of the time it simply isn't and nobody is trying to steal your work, sell it for stock, claim it as their own or sell it to magazines or porn sites.   By the way its pretty easy to take a on-line image and use free software to create high resolution image with no to little loss of detail.   https://makeawebsitehub.com/resize-images/

Jul 04 19 02:18 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9782

Bellingham, Washington, US

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Some of you folks come up with all kinds of convoluted reasoning.   I know some of you think your work is special but 99% of the time it simply isn't and nobody is trying to steal your work, sell it for stock, claim it as their own or sell it to magazines or porn sites.

We agree on something although I would say that 99.999% of "some of us" have photos that have no monetary value whatsoever, myself included.

So, somehow, this "one photo" is amazingly worth sending to a fake account just in case it's legit and even without a contract of any sort I will benefit from grasping at straws in some profound and worthwhile way?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I also agree that some folks come up with all kinds of convoluted reasoning.
Like photos not being worth anything unless by a miracle, they are. That's hilarious!!!!!

Jul 04 19 02:44 pm Link