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Matt T

Posts: 5

Houston, Texas, US

I was looking online for a model agreement form that models can send to photographers. Basically listing the what, when, where, the purpose of the session, the number of images delivered, etc. As a model, what additional information would you like to know prior to a photoshoot?

Mar 12 19 06:53 am Link

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LA StarShooter

Posts: 2739

Los Angeles, California, US

Unless someone is paying for images, specifying the number of images to be received is not good. If there are four looks that's four images, unless there is some instagram feed need and for such things that pushes it into paid territory.  For a beauty shoot, if they are two looks-two images and in beauty images have to be great.

I see no need to try and box the photographer into delivering a certain number of images. What if the model sucks? Or the photographer just couldn't pull it off-oh-here's all your lousy images.

Tf is a risk, a roll-of-the-dice for both parties. If you're paying you can specify and also demand your money back if your needs are not met.

Mar 12 19 10:11 am Link

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Model Mayhem Edu

Posts: 1525

Los Angeles, California, US

This would typically require multiple documents. The model could have a standard contract that includes a description of the services they are providing, payment for services, working hours, etc.

There should also be a separate model release, and then the photographer, as the copyright holder, should provide a license that grants usage rights for specific images to the model/client.

Some model releases may cover basic usage. For example, the self-promotion release below states, "The test photographic or other images created by _____ (“Photographer”) of me are only for testing, Photographer’s self-promotion uses, and my portfolio."

APA Self-Promotion Model Release
https://www.dropbox.com/s/56nzqiunqf3qp … e.pdf?dl=0

ASMP Commercial Model Release
https://www.asmp.org/releases/model-rel … l-release/

All these documents should be written by a lawyer.

Mar 12 19 10:28 am Link

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Mark Salo

Posts: 11956

Olney, Maryland, US

HTX Photographer wrote:
I was looking online for a model agreement form that models can send to photographers. Basically listing the what, when, where, the purpose of the session, the number of images delivered, etc. As a model, what additional information would you like to know prior to a photoshoot?

Do you suppose that the model is going to want exactly the same results from every photo shoot?

Edit: At first I assumed that the model wanted to dictate to the photographer.

On second thought, maybe she will send this to the photographer as a blank questionnaire. If so, she can just send this to the photographer: "Please tell me what, when, where, the purpose of the session, the number of images delivered, who supplies makeup and wardrobe." I don't see that a special form is necessary.
ETA: These are things that are always (or should be) discussed and negotiated whether the model asks first or the photographer volunteers the details.

As has been stated, this is unrelated to the model release and usage license.

Mar 12 19 11:26 am Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9425

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I can't imagine any photographer willing to sign something like this.
If a model sent me that, I would just find someone else to shoot.

Curious to see the responses from others regarding if they would sign, or not.

KM

Apr 14 19 01:05 pm Link

Photographer

Todd Meredith

Posts: 728

Fayetteville, North Carolina, US

HTX Photographer wrote:
I was looking online for a model agreement form that models can send to photographers. Basically listing the what, when, where, the purpose of the session, the number of images delivered, etc. As a model, what additional information would you like to know prior to a photoshoot?

I believe those who've replied are looking well past what the OP is requesting.  When contacting most models, a photographer will provide a basic concept of the shoot, the time, date and particulars such as MUA provisions, etc.  if a model sees something she doesn't agree with or doesn't like, it gives her the opportunity to state so or just say, no thanks.  The OP simply added something some models will ask - how many images will I receive.  The OP is simply looking to see if anyone has a questionnaire that details the specifics of a shoot that a model might provide to a photographer in order to find out as much information as possible.  From the OPs wording, I truly don't see him asking for a contract and may have inadvertently used the word agreement.  The last line - "As a model, what information would you like to know prior to a photo shoot?" - gives it away.

Personally, OP,  I don't have what you're asking about and that's because every interaction with a model is as different as the models are individual in their own respects, every shoot will be different and I prefer to tailor all communication the the situation and person(s) involved.  I commend you though for trying to be proactive in your professional relationship with others.

Apr 14 19 02:56 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I can't imagine any photographer willing to sign something like this.
If a model sent me that, I would just find someone else to shoot.

Curious to see the responses from others regarding if they would sign, or not.

KM

Ditto

Apr 14 19 03:15 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11956

Olney, Maryland, US

I always hope and trust that the model and I are in agreement regarding the details. Will I sign a promise? No.

Apr 14 19 03:52 pm Link

Photographer

TouchofEleganceStudios

Posts: 5481

Vallejo, California, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I can't imagine any photographer willing to sign something like this.
If a model sent me that, I would just find someone else to shoot.

Curious to see the responses from others regarding if they would sign, or not.

KM

Double, even triple ditto

"Next"

Apr 14 19 05:20 pm Link

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Abbitt Photography

Posts: 13574

Washington, Utah, US

We see rant after rant here about image delivery, number of images and other shoot terms that never would have occurred had the two parties simply spelled out the shoot terms and agreed to them prior to the shoot.   I typically do this with a summary email at the time of booking, but it could be a standard form as well.   While it's not crystal clear to me precisely what the OP wants, it seems he mostly wants to know what shoot terms should be agreed to.  He's not asking about model releases and he never mentioned anyone signing anything.

Some things I do think should be addressed prior to a TF shoot between parties and that I think models care about include:

Minimum number of images to be delivered and time frame. (or pay if not TF)
Will a model release be required
Will an escort of other non shoot personnel be allowed
Verify time and place of shoot
Any wardrobe or make up be expected of the model

There may be others, but if photographers and models would verify and agree on these simple 5 things, shoots would go much smoother and we'd see far fewer rants here.  Whether these things are addressed in a single email, an attached form or on a website doesn't really matter to me, so long as they are addressed some way and agreed to.  I also don't think it matters if the model asks about these things first or the photographer simple offers them.  What's import is they are discussed and agreed to.  The problems and resulting rants occur when one or both parties make assumptions rather than actually discussing shoot terms.

Apr 14 19 06:09 pm Link

Photographer

Camerosity

Posts: 5805

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I can't imagine any photographer willing to sign something like this.
If a model sent me that, I would just find someone else to shoot.

Curious to see the responses from others regarding if they would sign, or not.

KM

Agree!

I'm not looking for legalistic trade shoots where the specter of litigation is raised, if things don't go exactly as planned. It just isn't worth it,

The main reason why wedding photographers' rates have skyrocketed is the level of potential liability associated with a wedding shoot -- and that's why there is almost always a second shooter (which further adds to the cost).

Next

Apr 14 19 06:53 pm Link

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4486

Phoenix, Arizona, US

HTX Photographer wrote:
I was looking online for a model agreement form that models can send to photographers. Basically listing the what, when, where, the purpose of the session, the number of images delivered, etc. As a model, what additional information would you like to know prior to a photoshoot?

I model and now also shoot.

As a model I do not care to make a model contract but am willing to sign a model release and generally have shot with people who have exceeded my expectations of pictures they've given me. I've also shot a couple times for pay and have not expected any shots at all from paid shoots but, have been nicely surprised with images from those shoots that were shared.
edit: I've also paid 2 photographers for different shoots that didn't produce any images so there is that...

As a photographer, I am willing to give images in exchange for my trade shoots, that is all I am offering. I offer about 2-6 images for a 2 hour shoot with a clause that in case I totally jack it up, I'm willing to try again.

I would not sign a model's contract.
Jen

Apr 14 19 10:24 pm Link

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Eye of the World

Posts: 1402

Corvallis, Oregon, US

Camerosity wrote:
The main reason why wedding photographers' rates have skyrocketed is the level of potential liability associated with a wedding shoot -- and that's why there is almost always a second shooter (which further adds to the cost).

Next

Wait, I thought all the wedding photographers were complaining about the newbies advertising $500 wedding photography?

Apr 19 19 09:44 pm Link

Photographer

Camera Buff

Posts: 1107

Maryborough, Queensland, Australia

HTX Photographer wrote:
I was looking online for a model agreement form that models can send to photographers. Basically listing the what, when, where, the purpose of the session, the number of images delivered, etc. As a model, what additional information would you like to know prior to a photoshoot?

Try searching by portrait agreement + booking form.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=portrait- … 2E2DB8B475

Apr 20 19 09:06 am Link

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Todd Meredith

Posts: 728

Fayetteville, North Carolina, US

HTX - do you feel you received the guidance or answer you are seeking?

Apr 20 19 02:45 pm Link