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Model

Nellie Green

Posts: 1166

San Jose, California, US

Hey MM MUAs and other stylists!
I'm starting to shoot again after a long hiatus and was wondering about your thoughts on eyelash extensions. I've had them for over a year now and while they look great and have become easy for me to maintain in my daily life, I wonder how hellish or annoying they would be for a MUA to work on or around. Should I consider having them removed so I can have strips applied as needed?
Thanks in advance!
Fem

Oct 02 17 02:20 pm Link

Photographer

Leonard Gee Photography

Posts: 18096

Sacramento, California, US

Fembot wrote:
I've had them for over a year now and while they look great and have become easy for me to maintain in my daily life, I wonder how hellish or annoying they would be for a MUA to work on or around. Should I consider having them removed so I can have strips applied as needed?

the answer is - it depends.

have a good friend patty, who was one of the best nail techs i've ever seen. she went into learning to apply eyelash extensions. her eye for artistic technique and great detail for nails carried over to the eyelash extension application. it consisted of the correct amount of glue and adhesion of the extension to the correct place and matching the correct angle of the real lash. the result was very natural and very hard to pickup in a close-up beauty shot. my mua would only need to apply some mascara to hide the real lash from the extension or add some single lashes. patty charged $195 for a set of extensions and $125 for maintenance and considered it cheap. the best work i've seen runs between $200-$300 a set.

we had another model with a terrible lash extension job. too much glue, incorrect angles, clumping of the real lashes. the result was that i decided it was easier to totally remove her lashes with photoshop and replace with lashes from a different model with a decent set of eyelashes. it was such a mess, there was nothing the mua could do about correcting them (without an hour to remove all, which still would be tricky and difficult).

Oct 02 17 04:41 pm Link

Photographer

Thomas Van Dyke

Posts: 3239

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Fembot wrote:
...your thoughts on eyelash extensions...

My thoughts Fem? Maybe not a good thing, would suggest staying with mascara only...

If you need to clarification i.e. understand why then please read Orly Avitzur, M.D. thoughts on the aforementioned...

Orly Avitzur, M.D. wrote:
Eyelash extensions can pose health risks

“Something bad has happened. I’ve got eyelash extensions,” singer and actress Kristin Chenoweth confessed on the "Late Show with David Letterman" last year while wearing large dark sunglasses, and visibly drowsy on Benadryl. “Here’s the problem: The glue has formaldehyde in it, and I’m allergic,” Chenoweth said. “I swelled up and I’m sneezing. . . . It looks like I have lips on my eyelids.”

The Broadway star is far from alone in her quest for longer, thicker eyelashes. Women have been enhancing their lashes since before the days of Cleopatra. Mascara, marketed since 1917, is a multibillion-dollar industry. False eyelashes went mainstream in the 1960s (thanks in part to Twiggy). The market has benefited from promotion by celebrity trendsetters including Nicki Minaj and Rihanna. The Kardashian sisters recently announced their line of false eyelashes and tweeted, “Faking fuller lashes are a thing of the past. For 2013 faux lashes are being worn BIG and without apology.”

But the quest for beauty can come at a price. Eyelash extensions—single synthetic fibers glued one by one to natural eyelashes—are usually fixed in place by formaldehyde-based adhesives or other biologic glues. The adhesives can cause allergic reactions, as can the solvents used to remove them. In addition, cosmetic eyelash enhancers carry a risk of bacterial and fungal infection.

Eyelash extensions have also been reported to cause irritation to the conjunctiva (conjunctivitis) or cornea (keratitis). The irritation can be caused by direct contact from the lashes themselves or hypersensitivity to the substances used to attach them. Among beauty treatments, eyelash extensions account for the greatest number of eye-clinic consultations in Japan, where they have been very widely used.

Women are also learning that eyelash extensions can cause hair loss resulting in eyelashes so thin that women feel they have no choice but to continue the cycle. Indeed, the College of Optometrists in England has warned that “repeated use of eyelash extensions can cause traction alopecia, a condition where the hair falls out due to excessive tension placed on the hair shaft. As a result, this can damage the hair follicle, which can slow down and even cease production of hair.”

Even temporary false eyelashes can cause trouble. Pulling false eyelashes off can also remove natural lashes if those hairs get in the way, the traction alopecia similar to that caused by extensions. False lashes can also trap dirt and bacteria, creating irritation and infection, and a reaction to the glue can cause allergic swelling of the eyelids much like the reaction Chenoweth reported. There was no puzzle to solve when mystery writer Janet Evanovich experienced problems after attending the premier of “One for the Money” last January. “They put false eyelashes on me,” Evanovich blogged, “and I had an allergic reaction to the glue. On the plus side, my eyes didn’t swell up and break out until after I saw the movie.”

Some ophthalmologists report seeing patients with allergic reactions and infections as a result of eyelash enhancements. “Sometimes just the irritation from the glue used can lead women to rub or tug on their lashes,” says Philip R. Rizzuto, M.D., secretary for communications for the American Academy of Ophthalmology. The condition is called madarosis.

Eyelash vanity is reaching even more perilous heights. On the Internet, advertisements for eyelash-transplant cosmetic surgery promise to “thicken and enhance the appearance of eyelashes.” The operation, touted as a “minor outpatient procedure” by some, involves removing hair follicles from the back of the scalp and replacing the grafts on eyelids.

Beware, too, of the latest eyelash-bling trends. One involves threading tiny glass beads onto ultrathin copper or silver wire that is bent to conform to the shape of your eye and applied with an adhesive directly above the eyelashes. Another involves glueing crystals onto eyelash extensions. It doesn’t take an expert to see trouble coming when sharp objects are near the eye.

Our advice? Stick to mascara, and use it safely:

    Wash your hands before you apply mascara.
    Replace your mascara tube every three months.
    Don’t borrow, lend, or share it.
    Never add water to the tube; if your mascara dries out, throw it away.
    Avoid makeup-counter application, even with a fresh wand.
    If you see any sign of infection or irritation, stop using mascara until it clears.

btw: Orly Avitzur, M.D., M.B.A., is medical director to Consumer Reports. Board certified in neurology, she is a fellow of the American Academy of Neurology and a clinical instructor at the Yale University School of Medicine.

In my training to obtain a cosmetologist license in Makeup Artistry we were constantly advised to error on the side of cautioned whenever dealing with the sensitive eye area... Even so we also are forbidden to provide medical guidance and instead simply refer to licensed medical professionals germane and appropriate for a clients issues... a.k.a. as I have done here by providing tenured wisdom from Orly Avitzur.

Hope this helps Fem or is at least food for thought...
I wish you well on your return to the set and trust your journey is enjoyable...

Oct 03 17 06:05 am Link

Model

Nellie Green

Posts: 1166

San Jose, California, US

Leonard Gee Photography wrote:
have a good friend patty, who was one of the best nail techs i've ever seen. she went into learning to apply eyelash extensions. her eye for artistic technique and great detail for nails carried over to the eyelash extension application. it consisted of the correct amount of glue and adhesion of the extension to the correct place and matching the correct angle of the real lash. the result was very natural and very hard to pickup in a close-up beauty shot. my mua would only need to apply some mascara to hide the real lash from the extension or add some single lashes. patty charged $195 for a set of extensions and $125 for maintenance and considered it cheap. the best work i've seen runs between $200-$300 a set.

we had another model with a terrible lash extension job. too much glue, incorrect angles, clumping of the real lashes. the result was that i decided it was easier to totally remove her lashes with photoshop and replace with lashes from a different model with a decent set of eyelashes. it was such a mess, there was nothing the mua could do about correcting them (without an hour to remove all, which still would be tricky and difficult).

Gotcha, Leonard. Hadn't even considered it from the post angle. I don't want to make more work for anyone, if possible. Looks like these babies are coming off. Thanks for the advice!

Oct 03 17 02:19 pm Link

Model

Nellie Green

Posts: 1166

San Jose, California, US

Thomas Van Dyke wrote:
My thoughts Fem? Maybe not a good thing, would suggest staying with mascara only...

*snip*

Thoughtful advice, Thomas, and thank you. I think I'm going to have to get rid of them and spend of bit of time trying to recoup my natural lashes. Funny how not shooting changes so many of your beauty habits. Back on the wagon... or off...?
Thank you!

Oct 03 17 02:20 pm Link

Hair Stylist

rick lesser

Posts: 1116

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

While the price to have them done can be high I have to say I worked with a model last week who had them and they were amazing. They looked great I didn't have to touch them with mascara and made my life so easy. She said the maintenance was not bad at all, couple of hours initially and then maybe an hour to touch them up every so many weeks. you have to shop around for pricing and a good Tech to do them but personally from my point of view as a hair and makeup artist I was thrilled.

Nov 11 17 07:57 pm Link

Photographer

Leonard Gee Photography

Posts: 18096

Sacramento, California, US

Leonard Gee Photography wrote:
the answer is - it depends.

Fembot wrote:
Gotcha, Leonard. Hadn't even considered it from the post angle. I don't want to make more work for anyone, if possible. Looks like these babies are coming off. Thanks for the advice!

it's not a problem if you don't have a bad reaction to the glue and the job is done well - just the right amount of adhesive, correctly placed extensions, alined with the angle of your natural lashes. a good tech that knows what they are doing. it's an art and takes good eyes and a very steady hand.

Nov 12 17 07:45 pm Link