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Retoucher

findart

Posts: 125

Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands

Hi all,
I've learned tons of tuts, but the following effect is never talked in those tuts.
Here's an example (from MM forum):
https://justynaem.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/l7d_3509-c.jpg
Please look at her forehead, the transition is so smooth that makes a perfect ball surface.
This may not be the best example, but I do see this effect often in MM forum.
Guess this is mainly acchieved with D&B, but I just can not make it.
Any technique, tool or trick? Even better is there any tuts about this?

Thanks.

May 26 17 10:37 pm Link

Photographer

EDMONAM

Posts: 3

Los Angeles, California, US

Overdone

May 27 17 12:38 am Link

Retoucher

findart

Posts: 125

Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands

EDMONAM wrote:
Overdone

I don't know, maybe, but still want to learn the technique.
Any here's another example, putting aside the brilliant oily effect, the transition is so so smooth.
https://i.imgur.com/UO04mD1.jpg?1

May 27 17 01:29 am Link

Retoucher

a k mac

Posts: 476

London, England, United Kingdom

I agree that it's overdone, but if you can't achieve this with D&B then it means your skills aren't up to scratch.

When you're learning the skills, overdoing it till it's absolutely perfect is a good mistake to be able to make. Later, as your taste develops, you'll learn to back off.

If you're finding it impossible, then try using help layers and zooming in and out to assess the tone values.

Controlling tonal values by dodging & burning is the key master-skill for a retoucher. There's no way round that.

May 27 17 02:43 am Link

Retoucher

findart

Posts: 125

Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands

a k mac wrote:
try using help layers and zooming in and out to assess the tone values.

Thanks for your advice. With help layers, do you mean those check layers like invert, B&W and solarize?

May 27 17 04:01 am Link

Retoucher

a k mac

Posts: 476

London, England, United Kingdom

Usually two help layers are all you need. One to view in b&w, and one to increase contrast or darken.

For example, you could use two Hue/Saturation adjustment layers.

1/      Saturation slider at zero and in Color Blend mode. To view accurately in b&w.

2/      In Multiply mode.  To make the flaws easier to see.

A crucial thing is to view your work at different zooms. Experiment with this, but beware the tendency to keep zooming in to increasingly small details - It's important to be aware of the difference between the natural (and desirable) tonal variations at a textural level, and the larger sized flaws that you aim to reduce.

May 27 17 04:39 am Link

Retoucher

findart

Posts: 125

Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands

a k mac wrote:
Usually two help layers are all you need. One to view in b&w, and one to increase contrast or darken.

For example, you could use two Hue/Saturation adjustment layers.

1/      Saturation slider at zero and in Color Blend mode. To view accurately in b&w.

2/      In Multiply mode.  To make the flaws easier to see.

A crucial thing is to view your work at different zooms. Experiment with this, but beware the tendency to keep zooming in to increasingly small details - It's important to be aware of the difference between the natural (and desirable) tonal variations at a textural level, and the larger sized flaws that you aim to reduce.

Thanks a lot! I'll do some exercise.

May 27 17 05:53 am Link