Forums > General Industry > Nudity or Bondage ?

Model

Hannahcakes

Posts: 113

San Francisco, California, US

I guess bondage, but more in the sense of

"HELP I was kidnapped by evil circus clowns and they tied me up and covered me in greasepaint before hanging me from the chandelier!"

rather than

"Oh hay look I'm handcuffed to this chair, is this hot or WHAT?!"

Dec 08 06 09:12 pm Link

Model

Hannahcakes

Posts: 113

San Francisco, California, US

Grrrr double post!

Dec 08 06 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30131

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Tape Her Up wrote:
Gee...it's another bondage related thread.  And gee...who started it?  Why, Garry K!  Knock me over with a feather I'm so surprised.

For someone who professes to hate bondage so much, Garry, you do seem to obsess about it.  I mean, this is what--the fourth or fifth such thread you've started?  I'm beginning to think thou doth protest too much.

Of course, the whole thread is too broad to get a truthful answer.  Define the type of nudity you're talking about.  Define the type of bondage photography you're talking about.

By nude, do you simply mean topless?  Bottomless?  Completely and utterly nude?  Indoors?  Outdoors?  Completely nude and playing with sex toys?

By bondage, do you mean fully clothed bondage?  Topless bondage?  Fully nude bondage?  S&M?  Damsel In Distress?  Costume bondage?

And regardless, what are you trying to get out of this sleazy little survey?  Some statistic that may or may not suit your purposes?  Something where you could, by theory, go to the mods and say "four out of five models prefer nudity to bondage, so I think you should kick Tape Her Up out of MM"?

Let me explain something.  I'm not going anywhere.  Unless I get banned from the mods (and so far I have not given them any reason to ban me), I'm going to be sticking around for quite a while.  I just did a count on how many sets I have that I haven't put on the site.  After tomorrow, I'll have approximately 42 weeks worth of sets (that's if I stay at 3 times a week for updates).  I fully plan on staying in the business throughout 2007, and likely longer.  Probably at least through 2009.

So why don't you quit obsessing about bondage and just go shoot your anorexic out of control 15 year olds?

Whatever

Dec 08 06 09:18 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30131

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Surreal Eye Studio wrote:
Do you ever get tired of asking about bondage?  Dude, go tie up a girl and take her photos and get it out of your system  wink

Do you eve4r get tired responding to my forums , Dude you dont have to

Dec 08 06 09:19 pm Link

Model

aubli

Posts: 66

Seattle, Washington, US

Xaha wrote:
I guess bondage, but more in the sense of

"HELP I was kidnapped by evil circus clowns and they tied me up and covered me in greasepaint before hanging me from the chandelier!"

rather than

"Oh hay look I'm handcuffed to this chair, is this hot or WHAT?!"

rock on...  smile

Dec 08 06 09:23 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

Xaha wrote:
I guess bondage, but more in the sense of

"HELP I was kidnapped by evil circus clowns and they tied me up and covered me in greasepaint before hanging me from the chandelier!"

rather than

"Oh hay look I'm handcuffed to this chair, is this hot or WHAT?!"

fuckin clowns...




wait, clowns have a chandelier?




*sit in the corner sobbing*

Dec 08 06 09:31 pm Link

Model

Hannahcakes

Posts: 113

San Francisco, California, US

I like to think that the clowns left me in an abandoned mansion. smile

Dec 08 06 09:35 pm Link

Model

_Bunny_

Posts: 47

Riverview, Florida, US

Xaha wrote:
I guess bondage, but more in the sense of

"HELP I was kidnapped by evil circus clowns and they tied me up and covered me in greasepaint before hanging me from the chandelier!"

rather than

"Oh hay look I'm handcuffed to this chair, is this hot or WHAT?!"

Amen!  Glamour bondage is a bit silly to me.  It has its place, and when done well, it's very nice.  But the whole "I'm bound and seriously cannot move" is much better.

Dec 08 06 10:46 pm Link

Model

A BRITT PRO-AM

Posts: 7840

CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US

i have modelled nude a lot

i am not keen and havent done real bondage but like the look of bondage photos whenvery pro work
DONT like being tied at all BUT for aRT i will do it
if know how shoot it RIGHT
and get me the f**k OUT of it!!

wink

Dec 09 06 12:36 am Link

Model

The Chemical Kitten

Posts: 1

Boynton Beach, Florida, US

Serene Death wrote:
Hopefully I'm not posting this twice...

Naked alone with a stranger or tied up and alone with a stranger...tough call!
No seriously, I would love to do some bondgae shoots with trustworthy individuals in the future, it's gorgeous when done properly. However I am always comfortable and happy nude.... so to make my long answer longer....both!

Dec 09 06 01:07 am Link

Photographer

Tied And Taped

Posts: 4735

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Garry k wrote:

Whatever

What a comeback!  What a snappy response!  I am cut to the quick!  Boo-hoo is me, Garry said 'Whatever' to me!

I noticed you didn't answer any questions--either by me or the other fellow.  Don't you ever get tired of asking about bondage?  Why don't you quit obsessing over it?  This shtick has gone on for so long it's out and out tiresome.  Get a life, Garry.  Go shoot some models and leave us hard working bondage photographers alone.

You recently referred to me as a stalker.  I think you're more the stalker with how often you obsess about my work.

Dec 09 06 08:00 am Link

Model

Sirensong

Posts: 2173

Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Craig Thomson wrote:
fuckin clowns...

Thatwould beporn
Disturbing and possibly amusing porn big_smile

Dec 09 06 08:03 am Link

Photographer

BlackWatch

Posts: 3825

Cleveland, Ohio, US

jade83 wrote:
I, for one, would rather be wearing something more substantial than, say lingerie if tied up.

How about...chained to a large rock in front of Lake Erie...dressed in a toga and tiara...sort of like Clash of The Titans...


Ignore me I'm in a weird mood today...

Dec 09 06 08:24 am Link

Photographer

JPbond

Posts: 97

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

I love both but bondage is my favorite. How about nude with bondage.

Dec 09 06 08:57 am Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30131

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Tape Her Up wrote:

What a comeback!  What a snappy response!  I am cut to the quick!  Boo-hoo is me, Garry said 'Whatever' to me!

I noticed you didn't answer any questions--either by me or the other fellow.  Don't you ever get tired of asking about bondage?  Why don't you quit obsessing over it?  This shtick has gone on for so long it's out and out tiresome.  Get a life, Garry.  Go shoot some models and leave us hard working bondage photographers alone.

You recently referred to me as a stalker.  I think you're more the stalker with how often you obsess about my work.

Well You do keep following me around .....I dont join in the discusstings you post ( except for our little fight zone matter ) And you know that I shoot the type of models that you only dream about ( and Ive had 2 photo shoots and a fashion show  in the past week -)So ?????


You were recentoly bragging about how you shoot models of all ages and sizes ( and saying that I discriminate cuz I only shoot young fashion models ) So why arent you posting photos of your 45 year old plus sized  beauties all bound , gagged and trussed up >

Dec 09 06 01:04 pm Link

Photographer

Tied And Taped

Posts: 4735

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Well, if you go to my port you will see a photo of 39 year old Tomiko.  I just shot a plus sized model today and will be posting her photos shortly.  And on my site are 6 sets of 45 year old Paige Turner and 3 sets of Tomiko.  So...once again, you look like an idiot.

Dec 09 06 02:57 pm Link

Model

jade83

Posts: 2253

Columbia, Missouri, US

BlackWatch wrote:

How about...chained to a large rock in front of Lake Erie...dressed in a toga and tiara...sort of like Clash of The Titans...
Ignore me I'm in a weird mood today...

Doesn't seem weird to me, if whoever that actress was did it! Heheheh.

Dec 09 06 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30131

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Tape Her Up wrote:
Well, if you go to my port you will see a photo of 39 year old Tomiko.  I just shot a plus sized model today and will be posting her photos shortly.  And on my site are 6 sets of 45 year old Paige Turner and 3 sets of Tomiko.  So...once again, you look like an idiot.

yawn

Dec 09 06 03:32 pm Link

Photographer

4C 41 42

Posts: 11093

Nashville, Tennessee, US

:: adding models to "favorites" as quickly as possible :: 



Never mind me... just looking!

Dec 09 06 03:44 pm Link

Model

Hannahcakes

Posts: 113

San Francisco, California, US

Sirensong wrote:

Thatwould beporn
Disturbing and possibly amusing porn big_smile

You act like you've never seen clown porn! haha

One of the rules of the internet is "There is porn of it. No exceptions." tongue

Dec 09 06 04:10 pm Link

Model

LucisPtera

Posts: 136

Austin, Texas, US

Bondage.

Dec 09 06 04:13 pm Link

Photographer

byReno

Posts: 1034

Arlington Heights, Illinois, US

Xaha wrote:
I guess bondage, but more in the sense of

"HELP I was kidnapped by evil circus clowns and they tied me up and covered me in greasepaint before hanging me from the chandelier!"

rather than

"Oh hay look I'm handcuffed to this chair, is this hot or WHAT?!"

Damn!  I know I got an evil clown outfit around here somewhere. smile

Dec 09 06 04:16 pm Link

Photographer

FotoArcade

Posts: 393

San Diego, California, US

Xaha wrote:
"...kidnapped by evil circus clown...tied me up and covered me in greasepaint before hanging me from the chandelier!"

Give us photographers two weeks and we'll be calling it cliche. Another bandwagon I'll be too late to get on!

Dec 09 06 04:35 pm Link

Photographer

BlackWatch

Posts: 3825

Cleveland, Ohio, US

jade83 wrote:

Doesn't seem weird to me, if whoever that actress was did it! Heheheh.

Well Illinois isn't too far away and I have a Lake...rock...and can buy some chains...

Dec 09 06 04:55 pm Link

Photographer

Kevin Connery

Posts: 17825

El Segundo, California, US

Garry k wrote:
Well You do keep following me around .....

Garry, when you create endless numbers of threads on a topic someone is interested in, you shouldn't be surprised when they join in. Labelling that 'following you around' is silly.

And you have started a LOT of threads, including a bunch on bondage, which is Tape's field.

Garry k wrote:
So why arent you posting photos of your 45 year old plus sized  beauties all bound , gagged and trussed up >

Yet when he answered your question, you responded with a one word post: "yawn".

Do you post only to see your words in electrons, or do you actually have any interest in what you continue to post frequently about: bondage photography, nude photography (or strippers, or nude models backstage, or embarassing incidents for models/celebrities, or....)?

As for your topic, since I'm not a model, I will refrain from answering the original question.

Dec 09 06 08:06 pm Link

Model

Mz Machina

Posts: 1754

Chicago, Illinois, US

Generally both , but what type of nudity what type of bondage ... thats a big question smile

Dec 09 06 08:08 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30131

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Kevin Connery wrote:
Garry, when you create endless numbers of threads on a topic someone is interested in, you shouldn't be surprised when they join in. Labelling that 'following you around' is silly.

And you have started a LOT of threads, including a bunch on bondage, which is Tape's field.



Yet when he answered your question, you responded with a one word post: "yawn".

Do you post only to see your words in electrons, or do you actually have any interest in what you continue to post frequently about: bondage photography, nude photography (or strippers, or nude models backstage, or embarassing incidents for models/celebrities, or....)?

As for your topic, since I'm not a model, I will refrain from answering the original question.

No thread of mine would be be complete without first Tape er Up then You joining in the discussion - even when I pose a question for models only ,,,,,

So I "create endless numbers of threads that people are intrested in " ...and thats why you participate -Wasnt it you that called my threads "trainwrecks "...but my guess is that your the type that ..........

Well and to answer your other question , Taper Up doesnt just answer my questions - he also never passes up on an opportunity to Try and insutl me ie name calling etc

Dec 09 06 11:34 pm Link

Photographer

Kevin Connery

Posts: 17825

El Segundo, California, US

Garry k wrote:
No thread of mine would be be complete without first Tape er Up then You joining in the discussion - even when I pose a question for models only ,,,,,

You must have a few hundred incomplete threads, then. smile Would you like me to 'complete' some of the threads you started which never got any response?

What's the score, Garry? Are you still trying to prove that bondage photography degrades women? Or are you simply trying to find some Underage Fashion Models posing Nude?

Again, do you post only to see your words in electrons, or do you actually have any interest in what you continue to post frequently about?  Obviously bondage and nude photography are common topics for you, but what about any of the other "questions" you start threads about: whether burlesque dancers are failed strippers, or why some models go topless backstage, or embarassing incidents for models (or celebrities),  runway model fears,   which politician you'd like to spank, or ....)?

Dec 10 06 10:02 am Link

Model

Kaitlin Lara

Posts: 6467

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Nude bondage. Lol...really though...for me, both are entirely natural. I came into this world naked, and in the past I've been actively involved in BDSM relationships. Both can be really beautiful to me.

Dec 10 06 10:27 am Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30131

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Kevin Connery wrote:

Garry k wrote:
No thread of mine would be be complete without first Tape er Up then You joining in the discussion - even when I pose a question for models only ,,,,,

You must have a few hundred incomplete threads, then. smile Would you like me to 'complete' some of the threads you started which never got any response?


My response

Tell me professor  , how is a thread really ever "completed " ...( and some of mine have had hundreds of posting with out anything being "resolved")

Instead of completing  my threads Kev , what I would really really really like to see is YOU come up w your own thread that is interesting ( then I can join in )


Yeah , maybe some of my threads are a bit provocative but many that I start are simply to push some to examine their own or societys values .....Something you seem slow on the uptake with

ie My post re Underage Models Posing Nude or Topless in High Fashion Magazines such as Vogue - clearly points out the double standard between the Values of HIgh Fashion ( with the premium they view 16-17 yr old models ) and the Values ( and the Laws ) of our Society ...That Your comprehenison of such a discussion is that Im seeking 16 yr odl models to pose nude or topless - again only reminds us that your in over your head in such discussion of values

Dec 10 06 11:52 am Link

Photographer

jack4photos

Posts: 323

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Kaitlin Lara wrote:
Nude bondage. Lol...really though...for me, both are entirely natural. I came into this world naked, and in the past I've been actively involved in BDSM relationships. Both can be really beautiful to me.

EXACTLY! why choose?

Jack

Dec 10 06 11:59 am Link

Photographer

BlackWatch

Posts: 3825

Cleveland, Ohio, US

Craig Thomson wrote:

fuckin clowns...




wait, clowns have a chandelier?




*sit in the corner sobbing*

Can't sleep clowns will eat me...Can't sleep clowns will eat me...Can't sleep clowns will eat me...Can't sleep clowns will eat me....................

Dec 10 06 12:13 pm Link

Model

Mz Machina

Posts: 1754

Chicago, Illinois, US

clowns wont eat you they will just talk to you from the sewers....

i have done nude bondage.... hmmm nude.... bondage or nude bondage....

Dec 10 06 12:17 pm Link

Model

Vera van Munster

Posts: 4095

Belmont, North Carolina, US

Bondage
I recently saw a GORGEOUS photo of Dita Von Teese in bondage, gagged at the mouth on a leapard rug but with stockings,garters,bra and high heels on.It was so hot! I would never do it though..lol.

Dec 10 06 12:19 pm Link

Photographer

Tied And Taped

Posts: 4735

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Kevin, it's as I've said: methinks Garry doth protest too much.  I have never known a so-called High Fashion Photographer to be so obsessed with nudity and bondage.  If Garry came out and admitted to be turned on by nude underage teens in bondage, it would not surprise me.

As to his response of *yawn*...well, what else can he say?  This is a man who made the idiotic statement that bondage photography was illegal everywhere but in the US.  When challenged to provide links to said laws, he simply danced around the issue until he had to admit that not only was he wrong, but he had been talking out of his ass the whole time.

He perpetually talks out of his ass.  And when he's called on it, all he can do is make a lame response such as *yawn* or start dancing around the issue and pretend he didn't read what was posted.

Dec 10 06 12:27 pm Link

Model

Mz Machina

Posts: 1754

Chicago, Illinois, US

Tape Her Up wrote:
Kevin, it's as I've said: methinks Garry doth protest too much.  I have never known a so-called High Fashion Photographer to be so obsessed with nudity and bondage.  If Garry came out and admitted to be turned on by nude underage teens in bondage, it would not surprise me.

As to his response of *yawn*...well, what else can he say?  This is a man who made the idiotic statement that bondage photography was illegal everywhere but in the US.  When challenged to provide links to said laws, he simply danced around the issue until he had to admit that not only was he wrong, but he had been talking out of his ass the whole time.

He perpetually talks out of his ass.  And when he's called on it, all he can do is make a lame response such as *yawn* or start dancing around the issue and pretend he didn't read what was posted.

omg , this post is so funny... rofl. thanks:)

Dec 10 06 12:34 pm Link

Photographer

Tied And Taped

Posts: 4735

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I try my best to amuse, Carelyn.

BTW, Garry, I just posted a pic of plus sized model Reyna in my port.  While there, I remembered that I had a photo of 45 year old Paige Turner in my port as well.

Again, you looked like a raging idiot.  But that's normal for you by now.

Dec 10 06 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

BlackWatch

Posts: 3825

Cleveland, Ohio, US

CareLyn Anita wrote:
clowns wont eat you they will just talk to you from the sewers....

i have done nude bondage.... hmmm nude.... bondage or nude bondage....

Nude bondage...sounds like a perfectly normal activity in our world...

Dec 10 06 12:59 pm Link

Photographer

BlackWatch

Posts: 3825

Cleveland, Ohio, US

CareLyn Anita wrote:
clowns wont eat you they will just talk to you from the sewers....

i have done nude bondage.... hmmm nude.... bondage or nude bondage....

By the way the clowns have eaten me but I got better....

Dec 10 06 01:00 pm Link

Model

Mz Machina

Posts: 1754

Chicago, Illinois, US

Glad you are well smile

Dec 10 06 01:04 pm Link