Lazyi Photography wrote:
All of the no-shows for TFP/Cd I have had talked professional, they made plans, wasted my time planning and laying out, sometimes even wasted my money in various rentals. So just saying you won't stand-up isn't enough. It is sometimes hard to tell a flake from a dedicated person, some people have become jaded about the whole thing.
I still shoot TFP/CD myself, but I have changed my approach and also have myself a little list of who has flaked on me, and now as I offer paying jobs and they respond I laugh to myself and send them a polite message reminding them about our prior shoot, then I move to the next person.

LOL! Me too! I even do this for models who don't even respond with a polite 'f*ck off' to an initial email but later (months!) come back either wanting to work for pay or after seeing the results of a shoot I've done with someone else.

MzGarrett wrote:
I know its always in the bio or you ask and its a no, but what ever happend to lending a helping hand? It is hard for some of us models to come up with money to enhance what we have so far, in portfolios, like college students. This is our dream and I wish some photographers would stop saying, "If its your dream then you take risks." or "If you were serious you'd pay." No duh! But its hard, I am a sophmore, trying to make dreams come true. I already have accomplished some, but this modeling thing, is tougher than I expected. Im not giving up though, refuse to.

I mean I know its cut throat, but is it really that insulting to ask for a TFP/TFCD? Is it that hard for a photogrpaher to say yes? I understand the experienced photogrpahers, but goodness werent you guys in the same position once before? Also, one photogrpaher told me that he has had bad experience with him giving models TFP/TFCDs and they all stood him up. What does that have to do with me? I am a determined model and if you are willing to do a TFP/TFCD, why would I stand you up? No reason to, I need you to help me out.

I just had to get that off my chest, but please let me know.

First you have nothing to apologize for if you want to do tfp with a photog and he wishes to do the same for you.You are not depriveing someone of a lively hood and
there is no need to feel ashamed about it.  My guess is that models/photographers who cann't afford to pay and that use tfp doesn't take away anyone's income  but actualy increase the number of those that will someday be interested enough to pay up when they are experienced  enough to see why it is in their best interests.The tfp shooters,the amatuers who just like shooting pretty girls,the group shooters and all the model wannabe beginners( and there is nothing wrong with any of them} are just building interest in a customer base cost free  for those at the top of the food chain.
I use tfp sometimes but rarely because of the no show/no call factor,that is a real problem.Go right ahead and do as much tfp as you want and then someday you will see the need and have the money to pay for photos.