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Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Telephones seem to have a peculiar role in the modeling world. Before joining MM and OMP this year, I was unaware that you could get cell phone plans where you can't dial long distance, but apparently it's true.

Yes, I've been in contact with several models who said they couldn't call me, but I should call them. We set up dates. I traveled to work with them. I talked to them on the phone. But, to a woman, these models without long distance didn't show up, and stopped answering their semi-functioning phones. Hmm.

And of course model's inappropriate use of text messaging is well documented. Texting to say you'll be late. Or, in my case, texting an apology. Where have the adults gone?

Dec 05 06 07:47 am Link

Model

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Posts: 5517

Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan

Adult here!
Business Cellular 309.224.2887 Peoria "Little Chicago" Illinois

Dec 05 06 07:54 am Link

Model

Natural Wonder

Posts: 105

Chicago, Illinois, US

Well, I have free incoming calls....SO maybe thats why some of them want you to call them. But that's still no excuse.....just a thought!

Dec 05 06 07:54 am Link

Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Natural Wonder wrote:
Well, I have free incoming calls....SO maybe thats why some of them want you to call them. But that's still no excuse.....just a thought!

Well, they said they were incapable of dialing long distance with their plans.

Dec 05 06 07:56 am Link

Photographer

David Simpson Images

Posts: 1328

Bangor, Maine, US

I think anyone under 25 would cease to live if cellphones were turned off for 24 hrs. And your right they can text with the best of them but phone etiquette is beyond them.

Not one plan here in Maine charges extra for in state LD if its out of state could be a different problem

Dec 05 06 07:58 am Link

Photographer

David Scott

Posts: 5617

Marion, Iowa, US

Stephen Melvin wrote:
Telephones seem to have a peculiar role in the modeling world. Before joining MM and OMP this year, I was unaware that you could get cell phone plans where you can't dial long distance, but apparently it's true.

Yes, I've been in contact with several models who said they couldn't call me, but I should call them. We set up dates. I traveled to work with them. I talked to them on the phone. But, to a woman, these models without long distance didn't show up, and stopped answering their semi-functioning phones. Hmm.

And of course model's inappropriate use of text messaging is well documented. Texting to say you'll be late. Or, in my case, texting an apology. Where have the adults gone?

How about texting (multiple times) because you're on the phone about an important job and not answering the phone or calling at all?

Dec 05 06 07:59 am Link

Photographer

Sleepy Weasel

Posts: 4839

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I haven't had or heard of a cell phone plan in the past 5 years that didn't give free LD with your minutes (Verizon, Cingular, T-Mobile, Sprint). Interesting.

Dec 05 06 09:39 am Link

Model

Susi

Posts: 3083

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Bizarre....part of the reason I ditched my land line and went totally mobile was the cheapness of it.  Free long distance and tons of minutes are pretty much standard with the major companies.  Then again, I'm a rational, mature, adult so what the hell do i know;-)

Dec 05 06 09:44 am Link

Photographer

Greg Kolack

Posts: 18392

Elmhurst, Illinois, US

I don't know about other plans, but each text message is an additional charge. But I wouldn't use it anyway - its much quicker and easier to just call.

(Of course, its a lot easier to deal with someone when you don't actually have to face the person you are screwing over.)

Dec 05 06 09:55 am Link

Model

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Posts: 5517

Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan

Greg Kolack wrote:
I don't know about other plans, but each text message is an additional charge. But I wouldn't use it anyway - its much quicker and easier to just call.

(Of course, its a lot easier to deal with someone when you don't actually have to face the person you are screwing over.)

big_smile  Good one, Greg!

Dec 05 06 09:57 am Link

Photographer

StMarc

Posts: 2959

Chicago, Illinois, US

Sleepy Weasel wrote:
I haven't had or heard of a cell phone plan in the past 5 years that didn't give free LD with your minutes (Verizon, Cingular, T-Mobile, Sprint). Interesting.

For work, I have a BlackBerry with Nextel/Sprint, and I have no idea what it costs. I just use it and nobody's complained yet. I do very occasionally call models with it, because it has a speakerphone and I can use it while I'm driving. However, I don't give out the number for it to anybody except work-related people.

For my personal use, I have a VirginMobile pay-as-you-go phone, the cheapest one they sell, the cheapest plan they have. I can call anywhere in the US for a flat rate. I have difficulty believing that there are plans cheaper than *this* which don't allow LD calling.

Incidentally, it may be a sign of sugar-daddy-wannabeism, but I've bought these phones for models, and none of them have ever had any difficulty (except if they forget to buy more minutes, in which case the phone doesn't work at all.)

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Dec 05 06 10:16 am Link

Photographer

Ty Simone

Posts: 2885

Edison, New Jersey, US

Sleepy Weasel wrote:
I haven't had or heard of a cell phone plan in the past 5 years that didn't give free LD with your minutes (Verizon, Cingular, T-Mobile, Sprint). Interesting.

My kids have a plan with no long distance.......

Dec 05 06 10:26 am Link

Photographer

Bondo Photo

Posts: 250

Glen Burnie, Maryland, US

I've been cancelled via email (the morning of the shoot no less), but never by text message. As mentioned, it takes less balls to type a message than speak to someone.

Live and learn...

Dec 05 06 10:44 am Link

Model

Josie Nutter

Posts: 5865

Seattle, Washington, US

Okay, any adult who says they can't dial long distance on their cell is probably lying.

But personally, I prefer to set up most of my shoot details online.

My weekday schedule generally looks like this: get up, bicycle commute to work, work, bicycle commute home, then do freelance web development until it's time to sleep.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  I find phone calls while I'm working to be obtrusive and distracting.  Except for the 2-3 hours I am riding my bike every day, I am online almost 24/7.  It is MUCH easier for someone to shoot me an email, or a PM on MM, and get a response within a matter of hours (sometimes minutes).

I also prefer it because it is a record of what was agreed on beforehand.  Avoids any sort of thing where the model shows up to shoot and the photographer says, "But you told me you'd do topless."

And it's always in my inbox, so if I forget times/dates/etc, I can always quickly check it to refresh my memory.

Instead of bringing an escort, I can always forward the thread to my fiance so he knows where I will be, for how long, and the phone #s of people involved.  (FWIW, I don't shoot with people I'd feel uncomfortable with without an escort-- always, always, always check references!)

The only time I find my phone useful when it comes to shooting is when I can't find the photographer/stylist/etc at the agreed upon meetup spot, or if I'm having trouble finding a parking space and want to warn them that I'm running a few minutes late.

I can understand not wanting to deal with a model over email if she is incapable of coherent online communication ("wud luv 2 shot wit u", etc), but for some of us, it's extremely handy.

Dec 05 06 01:19 pm Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Josie Nutter wrote:
**whole buncha common sense**

But Josie, YOU have a working brain.

Dec 05 06 01:22 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Melvin

Posts: 16334

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Ransom J wrote:
But Josie, YOU have a working brain.

Exactly. I like e-mail. Prefer it, even, for the majority of communication. Texting, to me, is for teenagers. I don't know any adults who text in the United States, where texting is an expensive extra. I rarely check my text messages - they're usually SPIM anyway.

BTW, Josie, my txting coward of a model was in Seattle...

Dec 06 06 12:20 am Link

Model

Sarah Ellis

Posts: 1285

Portland, Oregon, US

Stephen Melvin wrote:
Texting, to me, is for teenagers.

One would think...  But I had a middle aged photographer text me an apology for missing a meeting recently, so I guess the rules have changed.

Dec 06 06 12:35 am Link