ADGibson wrote:
LOL. Part of a script dude...

Problem is that "Part of a script" feeds in to the whole mentality of "I've got a web cam/cell phone!  I can be a model/photographer!"

StMarc wrote:
Well, slap me with a camera strap and call me Daddy, but if you can get pictures like that out of a cell phone, I'm kicking my Canons to the curb. Oh, and I think I'll only shoot in black and white with it. Those were nice pictures.

M

Does that mean that soon we'll be praising the noob's for having great quality cell pics on their profiles?

StMarc wrote:
I watched "Superman Returns" yesterday. At one point, Superman was saving some bimbo in a car whose brakes had gone out, and as he was putting it down, a kid took some pictures with his cell phone. (Oh, and it was night, although this took place in a fairly well-lit place.)

Later, Perry White is castigating Jimmy Olsen for not getting good pictures: he waves several beautiful black and white 8x10's in Jimmy's face and says, "These are iconic. And they were taken by a kid with a cell phone."

Well, slap me with a camera strap and call me Daddy, but if you can get pictures like that out of a cell phone, I'm kicking my Canons to the curb. Oh, and I think I'll only shoot in black and white with it. Those were nice pictures.

M

Until you can consistently have superman pose for you, keep your Canon.

Looknsee Photography wrote:
What part did you have trouble believing, that one can get excellent B&W images from a cell phone or that a man can fly & lift cars?

LOL!!

Looknsee Photography wrote:
What part did you have trouble believing, that one can get excellent B&W images from a cell phone or that a man can fly & lift cars?

I am a science-fiction and fantasy fan from way back. I adhere somewhat firmly to the "one impossible thing" rule. For instance, in Star Trek, the Impossible Thing is warp fields. All the technology that breaks the laws of physics in Star Trek has its origin in the science of warp fields, so it gets a pass. If a piece of fiction has more than one impossible thing in it, the author is guilty until proven innocent of handwaving to cover deficiencies in their imagination.

The "one impossible thing" in Superman movies is, depending on how you look at it, either Krypton, or super-powers. Krypton actually works better as he doesn't fight any other super-powered beings who aren't also Kryptonian (in the movies) and all technology used in the movies that blatantly violates the laws of nature as we know them is also Kryptonian. Without Krypton, no movie. Therefore, Krypton and anything to do with it gets the "impossible thing" pass.

Be that as it may, the cell-phone pictures described, unless that kid's dad works for STAR Labs, are impossible, and they disrupt the suspension of disbelief for anyone who knows anything about photography. Therefore, I object to them.

M

Stephen Melvin wrote:
Ever watch CSI? It's not just the security cameras that can pull the level of detail of a 39 MP Hasselblad, but the little things, like the laser printers that print face up. Ever notice that? Every laser printer I've ever seen has the prints coming out face down - but not on CSI. Or the magic fingerprint checker. Or the cameras that all sound the same, but not like real cameras.

How about the in camera meter and split prism on a DSLR that they all have?

Or the one CSI team that has a computer monitor that can project in to thin air?

Or the simple fact that they never get sample contamination even though no one wears a hair net in the lab!?

But people *STILL* take most of that stuff as de-facto truth... example: the model murdering episodes and the rash of model murdered on TV threads right after them.

Studio Spike wrote:
i've done some shots with my phone ( LG LX350 ) that aren't all that bad:

http://spikester.livejournal.com/36466.html

OMG thats from a camera phone? Its gorgeous!

James Jackson wrote:
How about the in camera meter and split prism on a DSLR that they all have?

My 20D has a split-image rangefinder surrounded by microprism collar - just like my old film camera. No match needle metering, though...

Stephen Melvin wrote:
Ever watch CSI? It's not just the security cameras that can pull the level of detail of a 39 MP Hasselblad, but the little things, like the laser printers that print face up. Ever notice that? Every laser printer I've ever seen has the prints coming out face down - but not on CSI. Or the magic fingerprint checker. Or the cameras that all sound the same, but not like real cameras.

James Jackson wrote:
How about the in camera meter and split prism on a DSLR that they all have?

Or the one CSI team that has a computer monitor that can project in to thin air?

Or the simple fact that they never get sample contamination even though no one wears a hair net in the lab!?

But people *STILL* take most of that stuff as de-facto truth... example: the model murdering episodes and the rash of model murdered on TV threads right after them.

on CSI: Miami (aka photograhers killing models, the show) the other night a killer was shooting video with a cheap shaky low res hand held video camera and at one point waves his hand a foot or so in front of the lens.  They were able to pull a still frame from it & read his prints.
Yeahhhhhhhh.

I agree with the "one impossible thing" comment above.  It's the Deus ex Machina idea.  You can only ask me to suspend my disbelief so far before I call "Bullshit."

David Scott wrote:
Photographers.. what do you shoot with?

Sony Ericcson

Motorola Razr

My Nokia has a 2.8 lens.

StMarc wrote:
Well, slap me with a camera strap and call me Daddy, but if you can get pictures like that out of a cell phone, I'm kicking my Canons to the curb. Oh, and I think I'll only shoot in black and white with it. Those were nice pictures.

Have you seen Greg Gorman's black and white cell phone images? They're pretty darn impressive.

He showed them at PIDE a few years back, sneaking them in between some of his regular work, and showing his rooftop lighting setup. (I haven't been able to find them online, alas.)

David Scott wrote:
Photographers.. what do you shoot with?

Sony Ericcson

Motorola Razr

lg 7100, its outdated as well.

ADGibson wrote:
LOL. Part of a script dude...

haha. Like the band's in the club, plays one song and takes a break.

I don't remember that ever happening to me!!

Looknsee Photography wrote:
You know, in 5-10 years, cell phone cameras will be superior in quality to today's DSLRs.

That will be quite a trick, what with those pesky laws of optics and all.

M

David Scott wrote:
Photographers.. what do you shoot with?

Sony Ericcson

Motorola Razr

My son's very first picture was shot with my Motorola Razr. It's quite nice. My wife says "Just your style." And my son's 16 months old.