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I was doing a shoot on location with a nude model and no assistant or third party. I was approached by a mentally disturbed homeless man that was luckily just passing by looking for a place to crash, but it got me thinking. Could I of gotten robbed or maybe the model could of been hurt or something under different circumstances. Does anybody carry any form of self defense gadgets?. Nov 30 06 05:39 pm Link Jonathan sevilla wrote: I carry a 12-gauge sawed off shotgun disguised as a 300mm zoom lens. Nov 30 06 05:47 pm Link Depends on where the shoots is, and if I feel it is warranted. Nov 30 06 05:48 pm Link What you need is an ESCORT!!!! Nov 30 06 05:49 pm Link Jonathan sevilla wrote: .357 Magnum. Nov 30 06 05:58 pm Link can of bug spray, the kind that shoots 10 ft.. legal to have, packs a punch.. Nov 30 06 06:22 pm Link A "Shark Billy' - 18 inches of ash, looks like a small baseball bat - a couple ounces of lead in the business end - anything you hit breaks, especially elbows and wrists - not much use against a gun - but knives are the weapon of choice around here - I have one in the car under my seat and one behind the door at home - Nov 30 06 06:29 pm Link BRING A BASEBALL BAT WITH YOU Nov 30 06 06:35 pm Link sometimes i bring my 130-pound dog when i shoot out side.... Nov 30 06 06:39 pm Link Tripods, bats, lumber, small children all make great objects to hit bad people with. Bear spray, mace, a taser, one of those really loud personal alarms, really bright flashy things and ugly naked people all make good personal defence objects. *waits for anti-escorts to find the thread* Nov 30 06 06:41 pm Link Escort......Sometimes a Pocket knife Nov 30 06 07:51 pm Link i have a canon F1 with a 85mm lens on it with a neckstrap. one smack with that and anythings going down. seriously , pepper spray not just for people but mean dogs or wild animals , raccoons take up residence in cities and attack if accidently cornered. i have sprayed a raccoon and a dog each one time. ( under overpasses ) Nov 30 06 07:55 pm Link Nude models should never, I mean NEVER, carry concealed weapons. Nov 30 06 07:55 pm Link Ivan123 wrote: LMAO. Nov 30 06 09:06 pm Link Ivan123 wrote: I don't mind if they have a pair of 38s.......... Nov 30 06 09:10 pm Link lotusphoto wrote: And also perfectly explicable to have outside. Nov 30 06 09:11 pm Link along these lines... Yesterday I was hanging flyers up for my event in December. I was accosted by a belligerent drunk (possibly homeless) man who decided that because I didn't want to have a conversation with him I was "the devil". Now this is by far not the first time I've been accosted by drunks or homeless people... I spent several years doing event photography and was constantly being hassled by drunks, and I have been a part of the "Project Hello" project which required me to approach, and thus sometimes get hassled by, the homeless. It's amusing however that this came up as a situation where a few suggested an escort. My first thought yesterday was "Thank god my friend Paul isn't here." My friend and roommate, who comes along with me sometimes when I do things like hang flyers or just go around the neighborhood would be what many would consider an "escort"... he's a good well meaning guy with a keen eye for trouble, has and knows how to use weapons, and is quick to avoid problems by effecting a change in the situation and trying to quash the problems at the start. Why wouldn't I have wanted Paul there then? Because, like I said I've been in this situation before... both with and without someone like Paul around. Believe me when I say simply ignoring the belligerent person, and avoiding further contact with him/her is the better course of action than confronting or escalating the situation. May sound wussy... or whatever you want to call it... but I'm telling you from experience that a well meaning, but quick to trigger body guard is only going to make the situation worse. As is I continued to hang my flyers on the public message board that I was at. Waiting for the drunkard to get tired of me and my flyers and ensuring that he would not rip them all down the moment I left. He did get tired of me... and he left. Escalating the situation with a show of force would have only made it worse. Dec 01 06 08:36 am Link Run away? Dec 01 06 08:39 am Link I try to avoid "dangerous locations" but because of my love for the eclectic, they are coming up. This is one of the few exceptions to my "no boyfriend" rule - I intend to sit down with the model and boyfriend ahead of time, plan out the shoot, and make the boyfriend the "security guard....it will give him a point of focus other than what the photog is doing with his girlfriend. My problem is that in a shoot, I am so focused on working with the model that someone could come up behind me and whack me with baseball bat, and I'd never know it. Dec 01 06 08:43 am Link LSP CREATIVE wrote: Again, from experience, I can say this is 100% a bad course of action. Dec 01 06 09:02 am Link Jonathan sevilla wrote: Yeah. Male photographers. Dec 01 06 09:04 am Link Just one of the many reasons I always tell models to bring an escort. Dec 01 06 09:05 am Link Jonathan sevilla wrote: Daniela V wrote: Haha, I rely upon the models to protect me! Dec 01 06 09:14 am Link Jonathan sevilla wrote: Yeah, "The Brick" otherwise known as a Nikon F5. Dec 01 06 09:39 am Link SLE Photography wrote: Wow i had never thought of that, good suggestion Dec 01 06 09:43 am Link Alan from Aavian Prod wrote: Jonathan sevilla wrote: Haha, I rely upon the models to protect me! The photographers that I've shot with on remote locations, I'm sure could protect me if need be. Dec 01 06 10:40 am Link If I am doing a location shoot at a place I don't know, I always bring someone along as a look out. If it's a place where we might run into trouble and need some back up, I ask the model to bring someone she feels safe with. If we're going to be shooting out in the woods or something, I'll hire two models and use one as the lookout, then the other, alternating between them. This tends to work out pretty well. Dec 01 06 06:58 pm Link If I feel a need...I bring my MOM...don't nobody wanna mess with a SOUTHERN MOM!!!  Dec 01 06 09:51 pm Link This is why I'm in favor of having escorts, especially on locations! The most intrusive situation was when a San Jose police officer on horseback rode by while I was photographing a model. He made her pet his horse even though the poor young lady was trerrified of horses! See ... if I had armed escorts standing watch, the police wouldn't need to come by to check out the shooting!  Dec 01 06 10:03 pm Link Patrick Walberg wrote: *Shhh don't say it too loud, you'll attract unwanted attention from some very vocal people lol* Dec 01 06 11:56 pm Link hunting mace and a switchblade Dec 01 06 11:58 pm Link HK USP Compact .40 Dec 02 06 12:04 am Link |
