Tulack wrote:
She doesn't use Lightroom. Wide open and couple hours in photoshop.

Doing what?  I mean obviously there is a lot of post-processing there, but specifically to achieve that look.  The "common thread" in those photos.

R.EYE.R wrote:
It's a Russian photographer, and they hardly use the Brenizer method.
It's a wide open fast aperture lens, however 2nd shot seems to be taken with adapted Helios (swirly, fairly jittery bokeh).

In regard to the processing, It's a 100% Lightroom preset.

Have a look here and you will probably find few thousand photos done in a similar way:
http://vk.com/ilovelightroom
http://vk.com/lightroom_presets
http://vk.com/mk_color

Russians don't use the Brenizier method?  Hmmmm . . . I am pretty sure some of them do.

Tulack wrote:

I can give you a video if you want to watch 2 hours in russian.

Da

Tulack wrote:

Delilah Monroe wrote:
Russians don't use the Brenizier method?  Hmmmm . . . I am pretty sure some of them do.

No they don't.

Delilah Monroe wrote:
Doing what?  I mean obviously there is a lot of post-processing there, but specifically to achieve that look.  The "common thread" in those photos.

I can give you a video if you want to watch 2 hours in russian.[/quote

So the entire county of 143 million people, and no one has heard of the Brenizer method.  Okay.  That makes sense.

Tulack wrote:

I sent you her psd. Wasn't helpful?


Out of those 143 milion may be 30-50 good photographers. And yes, I never heard them mention it. . Why should they know about some foreign dude? You americans are funny, thinking you are the center of the world. And why would you mimicing medium format if you can buy it?  Brenizer method is DIY method

Why would a Russian know a foreigner's name?  I don't know.  I know a lot of Russian names.   Are you really telling me that you only know Russian artists, actors, politicians, and historical figures just because you're Russian?.

I didn't even know Brenizer was an American---I'm kind of surprised to hear he's not Canadian. 

It's been my experience that most Americans are interested in other cultures, want to learn about them and do not see themselves as the "center of the universe."  We are, after all, a culture made of other cultures.  I would think having lived here you would be more open-minded about the country you have chosen to reside in.  I would never repeat such unkind stereotypes about a Russian, or use any other such sweeping generalization about someone I did not personally know based on her nationality.  Imagine if I, as an American, made a similarly ignorant remark about a Chinese immigrant, a Latino or an African.  You would say I was a bigot.  But for some reason, you think it's okay to say that to me. 

Well, because medium format cameras are expensive.  And the Brenizer method is useful.  Any technique can be useful if it's applied skillfully.  For me, it's not about the technique itself, but how you use it.  That goes for medium, form, subject, and any other aspect of making art.

I did receive the psd file.  Thank you.  It was quite helpful.  I appreciate your time.

Tulack wrote:

Delilah Monroe wrote:
I know a lot of Russian names.

Ok, tell me at least two names or russian photographers inventers of some kind of methods? From your head, not from google.

Delilah Monroe wrote:
It's been my experience that most Americans are interested in other cultures, want to learn about them and do not see themselves as the "center of the universe."

May be you are the lucky one.

Delilah Monroe wrote:
Imagine if I, as an American, made a similarly ignorant remark about a Chinese immigrant, a Latino or an African.

Americans do that every day. Most racist country I ever seen . Having black or asian neighborhood in Russia... nobody can even imagine that. Here it's everyday thing. And majority even think it's normal.

It was you who said foreigners should know some DIY american dude, when you don't even know yourlself where he is from. Even wikipedia has only english version about his method. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenizer_Method    It means no other countries in the world know about him. And it's not 143 milions. Out from 7 billion people in the world nobody want to spend 2 minutes to write an artical about this method.

Wow, that is an extremely ignorant generalization.

Perhaps you keep racist company in the US.  Most people I knew here are very tolerant. 

What are you talking about?  Russians aren't racist?  I'm not sure where you get off being so superior.  In case you haven't read the news lately, Nazis have made a comeback in Russia. 

I'm not sure what "majority" you are referring to, or what you base your remarks on, other than bigotry and hatred..

"It was you who said foreigners should know some DIY american dude"

I didn't say that.  You said that.  Don't put words in my mouth.  What I said was, I find it hard to believe that out of all the photographers in Russia, no one has ever once come across this method.  I've had discussions with Russian photographers about that method.  So. 

Oh, it's not a 143 million?  Someone should tell Google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c … n%20russia

Anyways, I'm not going to argue with you.  Stew in your self-righteous hatred of Americans.  Enjoy it.  I hope it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy and superior.

Tulack wrote:
I can give you a video if you want to watch 2 hours in russian.

Is this video as easily accessed as YouTube, Vimeo, FB, etc.?  We might not all understand the Russian, but I'm pretty sure we can follow what's happening in PS.  Could be interesting.

Tulack wrote:

Delilah Monroe wrote:
Russians don't use the Brenizier method?  Hmmmm . . . I am pretty sure some of them do.


No they don't.


I can give you a video if you want to watch 2 hours in russian.

Why not?

Delilah Monroe wrote:
So the entire county of 143 million people, and no one has heard of the Brenizer method.  Okay.  That makes sense.

Better believe it.
Both Tulack and me are Russian and we spent enough time around Russian speaking forums to know.
This may sound sexist perhaps, but especially so female Russian photographers do not know or care about technicalities. They care about professionally looking straps for cameras and chose glass based on recommendation in photography magazines, because a cool looking strap just like "that photographer in Vogue has" gives them +10 to charisma and makes their photos instantly ubercool!

There is only one "successful" Russian photographer shooting high fashion - Daria Zaytseva, and even her work is considered "immature" by most fashion shooters.
A select few are shooting custom made 4x5 and print on glass, MF shooters are far and wide apart, you can count MFD shooters on a single hand (disregard Medvedev with Leica S2) - none of these are interested in the Brenizer method.
The vast majority bought DSLR cameras on recommendation from friend or magazine.

Reading Russian photography forums is a "f***ing shame" to put mildly - the fallacy statements on one brand outperforming another based on pure fiction, everyone who just got a DSLR is suddenly a pro and critic, and you would not believe the things they write about models whom they find "aesthetically flawed".

After subjecting yourself to this amount of garbage, you will realise that 99% do not really have a clue what CA really manifests as, or how it differs from LoCA, what the benefit of Canon's CFA readout optimisation is, and how luma and chroma noise affects underlying colour. Only now they begin to discuss large pitch pixels v small pitch.

I digress...

The sharpness falloff in the 1st example does not warrant Brenizer method - it is too smooth. The bokeh in 2nd and 3rd examples are too busy for Brenizer. The framing can be achieved by using feet.

Tulack wrote:

Delilah Monroe wrote:
Russians don't use the Brenizier method?  Hmmmm . . . I am pretty sure some of them do.

No they don't.


I can give you a video if you want to watch 2 hours in russian.

Hi I wish see this movie

Delilah Monroe wrote:
I don't really know how to describe it.  The shallow depth of field with wide framing?  Is this the Brenizer method? 

http://www.boredpanda.com/animal-childr … lova-2.jpg

http://www.boredpanda.com/fantasy-photo … eva-16.jpg

http://www.boredpanda.com/fantasy-photo … leva-3.jpg

I see this a lot on Bored Panda.

Thanks!

That first one is a telephoto lens from far away.

The second one doesn't have a very narrow DoF if you were to compare it to shooting an 85mm at 1.2 from 8 feet away.

It looks iike the DoF is narrow because the contrast between in focus and out of focus is high. Again, telephoto lens.

Shoot at 200mm wide open, even if it's only f4 and you'll be happy.

Back up for framing - notice they're all outdoor shots.