Forums > General Industry > Park Avenue Magazine.....is this Model Resume BS?

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Ivan Aps

Posts: 4996

Miami, Florida, US

I recently saw a model who is 5'3, 135lbs and nothing but a butt and nice eyes state on their "resume" that they were on the August cover of Park Avenue Magazine.

Having never heard of it and knowing Park Avenue quite well and doubting a magazine catering to that location would look at a model under 5'8 or over 125lbs....I did a google.

All I found was two pages of various model sites who said that they too were covergirls for this magazine.  But no actual information about this magazine existing.

Has anyone actually seen this magazine?  If so can you give me a link to some documented proof of it's existence?  Or is this nothing but internet models BS put on their resumes?

Nov 22 06 04:24 pm Link

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A Traveler

Posts: 5506

San Francisco, California, US

well, seeing that all the models who claim park avenue mag. on their credits did or still do reside in florida I would probably guess that it is a Florida based magazine. And we all know how loosely the term magazine is used....I imagine it is probably a little pamphlet for a shopping center or maybe a now out of print little newsprint rag.

I have never heard of it, but I don't doubt the existence of a small little newsletter with the title Park Avenue Magazine.

Nov 22 06 06:21 pm Link

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Iona Lynn

Posts: 11176

Oakland, California, US

It is probably a local low end rag that specializes in local glamour models..
send models an email asking about the publication.

Nov 22 06 06:26 pm Link

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Miles Berdache

Posts: 4

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

You are all wrong...maybe you should find more interesting things to gossip about.  Park Ave Mag is a German Publication...have not yet recieved the issue but I recently did a job for them for a story they were doing on authour Isabel Allende...it was booked through my agency...so I am pretty sure it wasn't a hoax.

Nov 22 06 09:18 pm Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Miles Berdache wrote:
You are all wrong...maybe you should find more interesting things to gossip about.  Park Ave Mag is a German Publication...have not yet recieved the issue but I recently did a job for them for a story they were doing on authour Isabel Allende...it was booked through my agency...so I am pretty sure it wasn't a hoax.

You are quite right there is a quite real [photography/arts oriented] Park Avenue Magazine produced in Hamburg, Germany, but this one below is probably the one the OP is looking for considering the OP is asking about FLORIDA models:

Park Avenue Magazine     
641 W Fairbanks Ave # 220
Winter Park, FL 32789-4773     
(407) 644-6054

Now, the interesting thing about this one is that it ONLY shows up in some proprietary listings [which I will not link here] for Florida "model agents"; "talent agents"; "sluggos" and other "model" related stuff... It is NOT listed as a publication in print for general circulation [via MPA = Magazine Publishers Association]; or is there any apparent website associated with it; or any evidence that it is anything more than a "title"; and it is not easily searchable by ordinary search resources. I found the listing connected with "modelling" only by using a very much specialist and rather oblique search method.

Applying a further resource search by [FL] city via yellow pages a second address, but with the same phone number, is given. I  can't determine the dates that each search return may relate to so which one is current, or more recent, is unknown:

Park Avenue Magazine
2121 W Fairbanks Ave
Winter Park, FL 32789-4507
(407) 644-6054

Considering that the name and address of the supposed magazine is in Florida and the OP is in Florida and hasn't ever heard of it... I have my own suspicion*, and that is all it is... a suspicion*, that it might be a "pay-for-play" vanity publication where anyone with enough money can buy themselves a cover. If that suspicion* is correct I should note that they are not the only ones that I have ever come across that may be doing this in the US. I know of one other one that even advertises on e-Bay ["Models - you can be a cover girl" (for 200 bucks)]. What I can tell you is that Park Avenue Magazine [in Florida] do NOT seem to be a general circulation publication that you can buy or subscribe to.

suspicion* = something that might be possible based on a few known facts but stated here without evidence or proof either way.

There is also a photographer listed at the same street address:

BJ IMAGES
641 W Fairbanks Ave,
Winter Park, FL 32789-4773
(407) 740-7266

and a lawyer's office:

CHARLES E  GORDON         
641 W Fairbanks Ave    
Winter Park, FL 32789-4773
(407) 740-0999

and a property management company:

Annapolis Management Inc
641 W Fairbanks Ave
Winter Park, FL 32789 - 4773
(407) 647-7002

So that address is some kind of commercial office building, apparently.

Any of you other guys in Florida know what it is??? FWIW at least 4 models here on MM show it as a credit... usually their first print credit [earliest] and none of them have included an image of the "cover," or an inside page, as a tear sheet in their profile.

Studio36

Nov 23 06 04:03 am Link

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Mortonovich

Posts: 6209

San Diego, California, US

Damn! Nice work 36!

Nov 23 06 10:21 am Link

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_Alexandra

Posts: 650

Alexandria, Virginia, US

Chip Morton wrote:
Damn! Nice work 36!

That's what I was going to say!

I work in a book store and we get tons of foreign magazines, business, home, garden, teen, etc. and I can see if we carry a "Park Ave Magazine".  If we do, I'll be sure to let you know!

Nov 23 06 10:31 am Link

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Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Miles Berdache wrote:
You are all wrong...maybe you should find more interesting things to gossip about.  Park Ave Mag is a German Publication...have not yet recieved the issue but I recently did a job for them for a story they were doing on authour Isabel Allende...it was booked through my agency...so I am pretty sure it wasn't a hoax.

Miles - why would you put an honest question about credentials in the category of "gossip?"  We talk about verifying what people say alot around here and then you go and call this gossip.

And you have no first hand knowledge about the mag you're claiming exists. I'm not doubting you, but then you didn't contribute a URL for it either. So for all we know, you've gotten yourself hoaxed. Actually, I find it hard to believe that you did some work for a magazine and didn't, at a minimum see if it exists. Kind of a weak position for startng off your gossip-mongering assertion with "You are all wrong" when you don't know for sure that you're right. And it should be very easy for you to know if you're right.

Nov 23 06 11:43 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Chip Morton wrote:
Damn! Nice work 36!

_Alexandra wrote:
That's what I was going to say!

I work in a book store and we get tons of foreign magazines, business, home, garden, teen, etc. and I can see if we carry a "Park Ave Magazine".  If we do, I'll be sure to let you know!

If that's the case maybe you could check "Publications in Print" [the big book edition] which I don't have access to. Most book stores will have a copy [paper or electronic] in the back office for special orders. See if they are listed there. If not then they are, indeed, literally invisible to real world publishing.

Studio36

Nov 23 06 05:34 pm Link

Model

Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

Curt Burgess wrote:

Miles - why would you put an honest question about credentials in the category of "gossip?"  We talk about verifying what people say alot around here and then you go and call this gossip.

And you have no first hand knowledge about the mag you're claiming exists. I'm not doubting you, but then you didn't contribute a URL for it either. So for all we know, you've gotten yourself hoaxed. Actually, I find it hard to believe that you did some work for a magazine and didn't, at a minimum see if it exists. Kind of a weak position for startng off your gossip-mongering assertion with "You are all wrong" when you don't know for sure that you're right. And it should be very easy for you to know if you're right.

Very good point... Your rant would be more viable if you provided a link to the magazine, but since you couldn't even do that, it still makes it look illegitimate.

Nov 23 06 05:37 pm Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Lamonica wrote:
Very good point... Your rant would be more viable if you provided a link to the magazine, but since you couldn't even do that, it still makes it look illegitimate.

The German Park Avenue magazine does not have a website that I can find but here is an example of their cover offered on the German e-Bay website... November 2006 edition. They are a lifestyle magazine aka the "Personality Magazine" - not unlike People, OK! Magazine or similar rags.

https://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/7a/29/4982_1.JPG

BUT THIS IS NOT THE MAGAZINE THE MODELS IN FLORIDA ARE CLAIMING TO BE IN

Studio36

Nov 23 06 06:55 pm Link

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Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Lamonica wrote:
Very good point... Your rant would be more viable if you provided a link to the magazine, but since you couldn't even do that, it still makes it look illegitimate.

studio36uk wrote:
The German Park Avenue magazine does not have a website that I can find but here is an example of their cover offered on the German e-Bay website... November 2006 edition. They are a lifestyle magazine aka the "Personality Magazine" - not unlike People, OK! Magazine or similar rags.

https://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/7a/29/4982_1.JPG

BUT THIS IS NOT THE MAGAZINE THE MODELS IN FLORIDA ARE CLAIMING TO BE IN

Studio36

Call me skeptical... a magazine sort of like People with no easily discoverable web site?  That stretches credulity.  I think we all know how easy it is to come up with a "magazine cover."  It may well be real. I just find it peculiar that a web identity is not accessible and thus skeptical about the reality of it.

Nov 24 06 12:52 am Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Curt Burgess wrote:
Call me skeptical... a magazine sort of like People with no easily discoverable web site?  That stretches credulity.  I think we all know how easy it is to come up with a "magazine cover."  It may well be real. I just find it peculiar that a web identity is not accessible and thus skeptical about the reality of it.

http://www.gujmedia.de/en/offer/magazin … en_profile

Wasn't that hard to find.

Nov 24 06 01:02 am Link

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SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

I live in Winter Park  big_smile
Park Avenue is the local chi-chi ritzy high end shopping district, they have a yearly art festival that's one of the best in the nation, and plenty of snooty attitudes.
The magazine's not a pay for play, it's a sort of local "What's happening+8 MILLION ads" glossy that's distributed to merchants on the avenue & in surrounding areas.  They have mostly local models in the publication & I'd be willing to bet they're mostly doing it free just to get a publication credit.

Nov 24 06 01:37 am Link

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Miles Berdache

Posts: 4

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

So there you go skeptics...gossips and just plain non believers.  The fact that so many posting have been based on ASSUMPTIONS is what defines GOSSIP...and all of it was wrong.  Now you have a Magazine to see...a link to go to to prove its validity...and a first hand account to what the PARK AVE MAG in florida is all about.

So now maybe you all can stop trying to find flaws in other peoples work and focus on refining your own...

Nov 24 06 02:19 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

SLE Photography wrote:
I live in Winter Park  big_smile
Park Avenue is the local chi-chi ritzy high end shopping district, they have a yearly art festival that's one of the best in the nation, and plenty of snooty attitudes.
The magazine's not a pay for play, it's a sort of local "What's happening+8 MILLION ads" glossy that's distributed to merchants on the avenue & in surrounding areas.  They have mostly local models in the publication & I'd be willing to bet they're mostly doing it free just to get a publication credit.

There you go then. A credit on a local advertising rag that has about as much real value to a model as a cover photo on the local church newsletter.

Studio36

...I live in Winter Park  big_smile...

Are you bragging, or complaining SLE?

Nov 24 06 04:42 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

BlindMike wrote:

http://www.gujmedia.de/en/offer/magazin … en_profile

Wasn't that hard to find.

That is still not a website operated by the mag itself which is what we were looking for. But it'll do.

Studio36

Nov 24 06 04:47 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Miles Berdache wrote:
So there you go skeptics...gossips and just plain non believers.  The fact that so many posting have been based on ASSUMPTIONS is what defines GOSSIP...and all of it was wrong.  Now you have a Magazine to see...a link to go to to prove its validity...and a first hand account to what the PARK AVE MAG in florida is all about.

So now maybe you all can stop trying to find flaws in other peoples work and focus on refining your own...

You know what? When it comes to a question as that posed by the OP then it is also a process of information exchange, research, assessment of the knowns and discovery of the unknowns. It is a discussion not mere gossip whatever you might think.

If you don't like it here there is always the stylist board. Step this way.

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Studio36

Nov 24 06 05:07 am Link

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SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

SLE Photography wrote:
...I live in Winter Park  big_smile...

studio36uk wrote:
Are you bragging, or complaining SLE?

Neither, just stating
It's not a bad town but it ain't like I expect it to turn heads  big_smile

Nov 24 06 08:51 am Link