Star wrote:
you know the old saying, if I wanted your opinion I would beat it out of you.

But seriously, I don't know why people use these forums as a way to make themselves feel better by putting someone else down. If a posting is on Vogue vs. Elle (Vogue would win duh!) the appropriate response is to argue which is better Vogue or Elle.,

It is not to say 'well what do you know anyway your avatar, portfolio, webpage, etc. is no good so you shouldn't talk about it.' That is just bullcrap, and it is inappropriate behavior in the forums. (Except the pit of course.)

So please, if your opinion on someone's port isn't asked for, don't give it. We have a critique section for a reason.

Or to put it bluntly, if you can't find something nice to say shut the fresno up!

p.s. I am not nice

i totally agree with this.
there's a certain group of idiots on this site who are so guilty of this.
it's annoying.

Star wrote:
you know the old saying, if I wanted your opinion I would beat it out of you.

But seriously, I don't know why people use these forums as a way to make themselves feel better by putting someone else down. If a posting is on Vogue vs. Elle (Vogue would win duh!) the appropriate response is to argue which is better Vogue or Elle.,

It is not to say 'well what do you know anyway your avatar, portfolio, webpage, etc. is no good so you shouldn't talk about it.' That is just bullcrap, and it is inappropriate behavior in the forums. (Except the pit of course.)

So please, if your opinion on someone's port isn't asked for, don't give it. We have a critique section for a reason.

Or to put it bluntly, if you can't find something nice to say shut the fresno up!

p.s. I am not nice

If the photographer that took that shot of Nicole was an MM member, would it have then been inappropriate for you to critique the cover?

If the answer is no, then how is what Bob did inappropriate?
If the answer is yes, then...well, that's kind of fucked up isn't?  We can talk trash about anyone we want as long as they aren't MM members?  Oh how special we are!

DigitalCMH wrote:
If the photographer that took that shot of Nicole was an MM member, would it have then been inappropriate for you to critique the cover?

If the answer is no, then how is what Bob did inappropriate?
If the answer is yes, then...well, that's kind of fucked up isn't?  We can talk trash about anyone we want as long as they aren't MM members?  Oh how special we are!

sorry, not going to respond to your trolling

[2] No THREAD HIJACKING. Start another thread if you have a different topic.

Star wrote:
you know the old saying, if I wanted your opinion I would beat it out of you.

But seriously, I don't know why people use these forums as a way to make themselves feel better by putting someone else down. If a posting is on Vogue vs. Elle (Vogue would win duh!) the appropriate response is to argue which is better Vogue or Elle.,

It is not to say 'well what do you know anyway your avatar, portfolio, webpage, etc. is no good so you shouldn't talk about it.' That is just bullcrap, and it is inappropriate behavior in the forums. (Except the pit of course.)

So please, if your opinion on someone's port isn't asked for, don't give it. We have a critique section for a reason.

Or to put it bluntly, if you can't find something nice to say shut the fresno up!

p.s. I am not nice

I say if you think you're so high and mighty as to be able to critique someone else's work (Even if it's Vogue), you should be able to deal with critique yourself.

And since you don't like critique, I guess that means you want people to stop commenting on your pics and giving you tags.

pamela mars wrote:

i totally agree with this.
there's a certain group of idiots on this site who are so guilty of this.
it's annoying.

I agree.

I think that we're thinking of the same group of people, aren't we Pamela?

DigitalCMH wrote:

If the photographer that took that shot of Nicole was an MM member, would it have then been inappropriate for you to critique the cover?

If the answer is no, then how is what Bob did inappropriate?
If the answer is yes, then...well, that's kind of fucked up isn't?  We can talk trash about anyone we want as long as they aren't MM members?  Oh how special we are!

Agreed.

Gina McNeil wrote:

I say if you think you're so high and mighty as to be able to critique someone else's work (Even if it's Vogue), you should be able to deal with critique yourself.

And since you don't like critique, I guess that means you want people to stop commenting on your pics and giving you tags.

You go girl!

OOuucchh!!

Star wrote:
you know the old saying, if I wanted your opinion I would beat it out of you.

But seriously, I don't know why people use these forums as a way to make themselves feel better by putting someone else down. If a posting is on Vogue vs. Elle (Vogue would win duh!) the appropriate response is to argue which is better Vogue or Elle.,

It is not to say 'well what do you know anyway your avatar, portfolio, webpage, etc. is no good so you shouldn't talk about it.' That is just bullcrap, and it is inappropriate behavior in the forums. (Except the pit of course.)

So please, if your opinion on someone's port isn't asked for, don't give it. We have a critique section for a reason.

I can relate.

I'm not nice, either.

Coming from someone that has amassed over 3,000 posts in 18 months, some of which are very critical , I'll take these remarks with a grain of salt.

Or to put it bluntly, if you can't find something nice to say shut the fresno up!

p.s. I am not nice

Star wrote:
you know the old saying, if I wanted your opinion I would beat it out of you.

But seriously, I don't know why people use these forums as a way to make themselves feel better by putting someone else down. If a posting is on Vogue vs. Elle (Vogue would win duh!) the appropriate response is to argue which is better Vogue or Elle.,

It is not to say 'well what do you know anyway your avatar, portfolio, webpage, etc. is no good so you shouldn't talk about it.' That is just bullcrap, and it is inappropriate behavior in the forums. (Except the pit of course.)

So please, if your opinion on someone's port isn't asked for, don't give it. We have a critique section for a reason.

Or to put it bluntly, if you can't find something nice to say shut the fresno up!

p.s. I am not nice

it takes a lack of self worth to try to biuld yourself up at anothers expence

Star wrote:
edit: I should mention a critique takes into account all of someone's work. It implies a certain level of discourse. It is when someone actually not only refer to the work of art, but than goes on to explain what is so dreadful about it, or what they like.

I should have said talking shit. Please stop with the unasked for talking shit about other people's work. Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

When you open up a critique topic, you open yourself up as well.  When you talk shit about an ugly Vogue cover, some shit may come enthusiastically bouncing back.  None of us are immune.  It is that simple, no need to complain...

Star wrote:
Cool can you post links to the posts where I attack someone's work?

https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=91607

Gina McNeil wrote:
I say if you think you're so high and mighty as to be able to critique someone else's work (Even if it's Vogue), you should be able to deal with critique yourself.

And since you don't like critique, I guess that means you want people to stop commenting on your pics and giving you tags.

Star wrote:
Whatever Gina. I'm supposed to care or something, right?

but I can't. Not when you can't see the difference between someone talking shit about someone else on a forum, and a god aweful nationally published magazine cover.

I have only once started an argument that starts with "well your images suck."

I have always tried to be even handed, but when the simple posting of a horrible Vogue cover can end with people attacking your work and your person that it has gone too far. Luckily I honestly couldn't give two hoots so I guess I will be just fine.

You have a beautiful face and take spectacular photographs. I hope you find an agency soon so that you can go on to do even better work. I don't agree with your assessment that my work isn't very good, but that is your peragative.

I do disagree with Bob Randall giving me an unasked for critique. I will be vocal about it, because it is happening all the time,

a model starts a post about pimple relief and gets told that she is too ugly to be asking that question.

it is stupid and it is juvenile.

and how do I know that Bob didn't look at my whole port? He said stones, or balls. He obviously thinks I am male. Since I am a woman, I know he never even looked at my port,

Star
I don't spell well, but shit I can sing high C

Thanks for the kind compliments, and just to make it clear I do have an agency.

I made no comments about your pictures being bad, I decided to just keep my thoughts to myself than say what I really think of them. Sometimes I do say what I think, sometimes I don't...I didn't feel it particularly important to say anything at that time in the other thread. And I don't feel that it's important now either.