Model
Sarah Ellis
Posts: 1285
Portland, Oregon, US
1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible!
Model
Victoria Rodriguez
Posts: 288
Miami, Arizona, US
THANK YOU for posting this. I almost want to copy and paste this into my portfolio.
Photographer
PK Brazil
Posts: 4265
Baltimore, Maryland, US
It's not art if there is no suffering.
Photographer
Jay Bowman
Posts: 6511
Los Angeles, California, US
Personally, I've never understood how people (on either side of the camera) can comfortably go into a shoot without knowing these details in the first place...
Model
TroisCouleurs
Posts: 1021
Dublin, California, US
PK Brazil wrote: It's not art if there is no suffering. You mean guy was in the complete torture watching her being uncomfortable ...lol ...
Photographer
J Schumacher
Posts: 1220
Gustine, California, US
Hmmmm.... I usually carry stuff to cover most of that, but have to admit, I didn't think of the running water. Gotta get some bottles, I guess.
Model
Sarah Ellis
Posts: 1285
Portland, Oregon, US
PK Brazil wrote: It's not art if there is no suffering. My post wasn't about suffering. I've done my fair share of physically uncomfortable shoots and I would do most of them over again. My post was about warning models that they are going to be uncomfortable in the hopes that they will prepare themselves. That said, I don't think any shot is worth endangering a model's health.
Model
KS24
Posts: 563
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Jay Bowman wrote: Personally, I've never understood how people (on either side of the camera) can comfortably go into a shoot without knowing these details in the first place... exactly what I was thinking
Photographer
SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: 1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! I bring everything that might be necessary for a model. Except feminie hygiene products. Bring those yourself.
Model
TroisCouleurs
Posts: 1021
Dublin, California, US
J Schumacher wrote: Hmmmm.... I usually carry stuff to cover most of that, but have to admit, I didn't think of the running water. Gotta get some bottles, I guess. Me too but even bottles are covered
Photographer
Lotus Photography
Posts: 19253
Berkeley, California, US
Rael modles dont have limits!!! or we can find they out!!!
Model
Sarah Ellis
Posts: 1285
Portland, Oregon, US
lotusphoto wrote: Rael modles dont have limits!!! or we can find they out!!!
Photographer
Doug Jantz
Posts: 4025
Tulsa, Oklahoma, US
and don't forget the beer!
Photographer
PDXImaging
Posts: 1476
Lake Oswego, Oregon, US
I just bought a spaceheater for the studio... All these issues are manageable, and should be just courtesy issues, but apparently some aren't all that concerned about the model...
Model
TroisCouleurs
Posts: 1021
Dublin, California, US
PDXImaging wrote: I just bought a spaceheater for the studio... All these issues are manageable, and should be just courtesy issues, but apparently some aren't all that concerned about the model... I had such a great experience last weekend! All the rooms in the studio had heaters turned on and I felt like a princess
Model
Sarah Hutch
Posts: 84
Red Bank, New Jersey, US
Sarah Ellis wrote:
My post wasn't about suffering. I've done my fair share of physically uncomfortable shoots and I would do most of them over again. My post was about warning models that they are going to be uncomfortable in the hopes that they will prepare themselves. That said, I don't think any shot is worth endangering a model's health. Well put. I usually try to come prepared for everything. I try to get as much info from the photographer as possible and then still cover some basic possibilities. As I go to more shoots, I always learn, what to bring, what not to bring, etc. But it would be a bit overwhelming if all of those things went wrong on one photoshoot.
Photographer
SolraK Studios
Posts: 1213
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: 1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! got it !!! sarah please bring a shotgun we may encounter a few bears
Photographer
SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: My post wasn't about suffering. I've done my fair share of physically uncomfortable shoots and I would do most of them over again. My post was about warning models that they are going to be uncomfortable in the hopes that they will prepare themselves. That said, I don't think any shot is worth endangering a model's health. The giant squid is PERFECTLY safe. I think.
Photographer
Shutterbug5269
Posts: 16084
Herkimer, New York, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: 1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! I think #3 could apply is something the model should consider as well. I shoot almost exclusively outdoors on location, and I pack my car accordingly ! Mark
Model
Tiffany Dal
Posts: 76
Peoria, Arizona, US
PK Brazil wrote: It's not art if there is no suffering. HAHAHA love this!!!!
Photographer
Fotografia-di-Asia
Posts: 6118
Park City, Utah, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: 1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! That's why you should never work with amateurs. . . Sue him for teh cost of health care you need.
Model
A BRITT PRO-AM
Posts: 7840
CARDIFF BY THE SEA, California, US
good points get well soon!!
Photographer
lightsandshadow
Posts: 2200
New York, New York, US
A very good list. The photographer should let the model know all aspects of the shoot. Full communication and consideration should go both ways so the experience is good for both model and photographer.
Photographer
RStephenT
Posts: 3105
Vacaville, California, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: 1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! You wouldn't think you would need to post this, it's so obvious... but apparently some of the photographers haven't got it yet.
Model
Roxy Sprocket
Posts: 7
Portland, Arkansas, US
RStephenT wrote: You wouldn't think you would need to post this, it's so obvious... but apparently some of the photographers haven't got it yet. Considerate photographers (and people in general) can be few and far between sometimes.
Model
Loretta Lightningbolt
Posts: 4127
DEVILS ELBOW, Missouri, US
Roxy Sprocket wrote:
Considerate photographers (and people in general) can be few and far between sometimes. So true!
Photographer
PDXImaging
Posts: 1476
Lake Oswego, Oregon, US
TroisCouleurs wrote:
I had such a great experience last weekend! All the rooms in the studio had heaters turned on and I felt like a princess As you should feel in a shoot...
Model
Sarah Ellis
Posts: 1285
Portland, Oregon, US
KARLOS MATTHEWS wrote: sarah please bring a shotgun we may encounter a few bears Can I bring honey instead? I love bears.
Photographer
jon mmmayhem
Posts: 8233
Philadelphia, Mississippi, US
as has been stated, you'd think this would be common sense, but unfortunately, no. thankfully i haven't been in this situation, or put anyone else in this situation. but i'll treat this as a reminder in case anything of this sort comes up.
Photographer
Miles Chandler
Posts: 647
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
I do try to remember all these things, but may I add a word of advice for the models? If you KNOW you're going to be modelling *nude* out in Nature, wear real shoes! Not white & pink slippers that pretend to be sneakers, not boots with 3-inch heels. Solid, ugly hiking shoes or boots, or sneakers that you don't need to keep dry and clean. Please. In fact, all your clothes should be comfy, warm and tough if possible. Jeans, sweatpants. a jacket. If I had a dollar for every time I've watched a model wobbling her way down a forest path or tripping over beach stones because she came dressed for the mall...
Photographer
Glamour Boulevard
Posts: 8628
Sacramento, California, US
This reminds me of one of my favorite sayings "I KNOW it`s 40 degrees. Now,,,,take off your shoes and jump in the puddle!" lol
Photographer
Photocraft
Posts: 631
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: 1. You are planning to shoot somewhere without temperature control: your models will want to know so that they can bring blankets, fans, etc. 2. You are planning to shoot somewhere with uneven or unstable floors that my have nails or glass on them: your models will need to wear flat, comfortable shoes. 3. You are planning to bring people to your shoot who will not be assisting you: your models might feel uncomfortable about little kids / starring men hanging around. 4. You are planning on getting your model wet or dirty: your model will need a towel. 5. You are planning on shooting in a location without running water, mirrors or light: your model will need to add some things to her makeup kit. I recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! Models: Take care of 1, 2, 4 automagically. Throw a towel, blanket and walking shoes in your trunk and always have them at the ready! (although you should really know anyways going into the shoot, I agree...)
Photographer
Vector 38
Posts: 8296
Austin, Texas, US
Sarah Ellis wrote: recently shot with a photographer who did not take these precautions and I am now in bed with a hurt back and a cold. Please be responsible! were these things not discussed between you & the photographer PRIOR to the shoot? i mean, you did both know what concept you were working on & how you were going to realize it, right? not sure where the communication fell apart ... F
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