Forums > General Industry > A true model has no limits.

Photographer

charles e williams

Posts: 5

Monroe, Georgia, US

Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

Nov 18 06 08:51 am Link

Model

jade83

Posts: 2253

Columbia, Missouri, US

No limits?! Sorry, but I'm just NOT into the alternative thing!! I also don't want lingerie because I wouldn't be in VS or any other catalog for it, and thusly have no need for it. I don't think I quite have the look for biker/hot car stuff either. My limits are what I consider reasonable.

Nov 18 06 02:33 pm Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

Huh?

Nov 18 06 02:34 pm Link

Photographer

David Scott

Posts: 5617

Marion, Iowa, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

Huh?

I think what he is trying to say is..... hell, I have no clue what he is trying to say.  tongue

Nov 18 06 02:35 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

Huh?

...whaaaa?

Nov 18 06 02:39 pm Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Translation:

I'm having trouble getting people to work with me.

Nov 18 06 02:41 pm Link

Model

Susi

Posts: 3083

Atlanta, Georgia, US

W.G. Rowland wrote:
Translation:

I'm having trouble getting people to work with me.

hahaha...I wonder what he asked the models to do if they all seem to have such strict limits?!?

Nov 18 06 02:42 pm Link

Model

RDawkins

Posts: 4532

Breckenridge, Colorado, US

What kind of work are you attempting?

Nov 18 06 02:43 pm Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Paramour Productions wrote:
Huh?

dgold wrote:
...whaaaa?

...ehhhhh?

Nov 18 06 02:43 pm Link

Photographer

Mann Made Imagery

Posts: 5281

Lubbock, Texas, US

well, dude... 1stly, work on your camera skills with friends for now.  your portfolio is still at the beginner level.  NO, experienced model or serious model that has a head on his or her shoulders is going to work with someone with a portfolio like that. Now, I'm not bashing here so don't think I am.  I'm just calling it as I see it because well, I started in modeling.

Nov 18 06 02:46 pm Link

Photographer

J Schumacher

Posts: 1220

Gustine, California, US

Welllll.... if a model has no limits....



they're probably dead already.



But I like Extreme Limits ok.

Nov 18 06 02:50 pm Link

Photographer

Kentsoul

Posts: 9739

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

I actually agree with you...in theory.

In reality however, everyone has limits of one sort or another.  The simplest way to find out who is best to work with is to look at a lot of models' ports and see who does what you're most interested in.

Nov 18 06 02:56 pm Link

Model

Alex Davenport

Posts: 10215

Spokane, Missouri, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

Paramour Productions wrote:
Huh?

...ehhhhh?

uhhhhh???

Nov 18 06 03:45 pm Link

Photographer

darkfotoart

Posts: 982

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

ok , i suck at photography alot.  but your port looks like you bought a used 2 meg point and shoot last week.     i would easily believe for you models have alot of limits.   at least use a damn stroboframe.   the other thing is the pictures you have of the same model look like its your wifie/girlfriend and your goofing around in your house before you nail her.  if you want to see really amateur  pictures of models look at my port i get alot of models starting out , or girls looking to have some fun.   i am by no means close to a pro in any way.

Nov 18 06 04:47 pm Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

I can see this as it applies to photographers, but for models, I'm good with their limits, as it helps shape the theme of most shoots.

Nov 18 06 04:54 pm Link

Model

Stacey S

Posts: 3131

Long Beach, California, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

Theres a different model for whatever you want them to do.
some set their limits depending on how comfortable they are with themselves
and others limit themselves because of morals
theres things I wouldn't even do that photogs have asked me to do

sorry this site doesn't seem to be helping you out much.

and not to mention
you could use some help in your photos

maybe once you get things rolling and better
you'll get your willing models.

but no a true model will not do anything

Nov 18 06 05:00 pm Link

Model

Iona Lynn

Posts: 11176

Oakland, California, US

Damn straight I have my limits unless I'm working with D. Brian Nelson....
Sorry but cacti in orfices is not my specialty....

Nov 18 06 05:47 pm Link

Photographer

Dave Krueger

Posts: 2851

Huntsville, Alabama, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

I've been having the same problem.  The moment I mention farm animals, they get all uppity and storm off.

Nov 18 06 05:50 pm Link

Model

Iona Lynn

Posts: 11176

Oakland, California, US

*moos at dave*

Nov 18 06 05:54 pm Link

Model

Mitsukai

Posts: 581

Walnut Creek, California, US

Susi wrote:

hahaha...I wonder what he asked the models to do if they all seem to have such strict limits?!?

He only wanted analingus. Leave the poor guy alone.

Nov 18 06 05:55 pm Link

Model

Ryan6663

Posts: 900

New York, New York, US

you smell that? smells like GWC to me

Nov 18 06 05:58 pm Link

Filmmaker

Aswad Issa - 35mm Film

Posts: 363

Brooklyn, New York, US

Paramour Productions wrote:
Huh?

dgold wrote:
...whaaaa?

Paramour Productions wrote:
...ehhhhh?

Alex Davenport wrote:
uhhhhh???

...duhhhh?

Nov 18 06 07:29 pm Link

Filmmaker

Aswad Issa - 35mm Film

Posts: 363

Brooklyn, New York, US

?

Nov 18 06 07:31 pm Link

Photographer

lll

Posts: 12295

Seattle, Washington, US

Iona Lynn wrote:
Damn straight I have my limits unless I'm working with D. Brian Nelson....

That's why I am constantly learning from him.  smile

Nov 18 06 08:28 pm Link

Model

Carrie_K

Posts: 10053

Orlando, Florida, US

All models have limits. It all depends on the type of modeling that they're involved in. However, I think your problem may be more of a quality issue. I understand that everyone starts somewhere, but have you tried paying some highly experienced models to learn from and improve the look of your port? The more that improves, the more models will want to shoot with you. Looks like maybe you should invest in some better equipment and maybe some lessons as well.

Nov 18 06 08:36 pm Link

Photographer

Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

Model's limit they are work, so much now.. A days that it is... Almost impossible to figure out.. Who is the breast to work, with..

Nov 18 06 08:45 pm Link

Model

Constance Hilory

Posts: 1706

Mobile, Alabama, US

I have limits ... it's called the certain areas of modeling I know I suck at. smile

Nov 18 06 08:48 pm Link

Model

Chantelle Mathiasson

Posts: 3638

Carson City, Nevada, US

AZ from FC Filmworks wrote:

Paramour Productions wrote:
Huh?

dgold wrote:
...whaaaa?

Paramour Productions wrote:
...ehhhhh?

...duhhhh?

ummmmm..............

Nov 18 06 08:50 pm Link

Photographer

j-shooter

Posts: 1912

San Francisco, California, US

After awhile the OP may realize (like I do) that they still have a ways to go.

But you know, when I started my MM site in earnest about 6 months ago I least had a few semi-professsional looking images to start my port with, images that at least had a passing resemblance to some sort of creative or artistic vision.

Instead of just snapshots.

Nov 18 06 09:30 pm Link

Model

Alix Andrea

Posts: 3035

Los Angeles, California, US

charles e williams wrote:
Models limit there work so much now a days.  That its almost impossible to figure out whos the best to work with.

Who are you to define what a "true model" is? Everyone should have their limits, especially when it comes the SAFETY and comfort level....

Nov 18 06 09:36 pm Link

Photographer

j-shooter

Posts: 1912

San Francisco, California, US

Yes, as far as limtis, of course each model has limits. As good photographers, we can test them gently and intuit where they are, and professionally retreat when we have overstepped them by the inch or two we cautiously advance as we proceed during a shoot or series of shoots.

To sum up, as photgraphers we combine creativity and respect for limits by exemplifying the following characteristics:

Intuition
Gentleness
Professionalism
Caution

Empathy, compassion and a sense of humor are good too.

Nov 18 06 09:41 pm Link

Model

Nalani Williams

Posts: 63

Memphis, Tennessee, US

ok, I've got ask.. I read these threads alot  but what is a GWC?

Nov 18 06 09:46 pm Link

Photographer

Adams Photography

Posts: 177

Eufaula, Alabama, US

Everybody has limits.Respect them.

Nov 18 06 09:46 pm Link

Model

Claire Elizabeth

Posts: 1550

Exton, Pennsylvania, US

Well no one is good at everything so you have to specialize in order to better market yourself. Since you have been on here for sooooooooo long Im sure you know exactly what you are talking about.........

Nov 18 06 09:51 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

charles e williams wrote:
A true model has no limits

Absolute statements like yours upset me!

So, a high fashion runway model, doing lingerie for Oscar De la Renta, or La Perla, but not cheesy low level ass in the air wannabe glamour shots for beginning photographers is someone with limitations, and according to your definition not a true model???

You better rephrase that crap! Yeah... I said crap... because it is so narrowminded beyond belief!

Toodles

Me


EDIT (after visiting your profile): Crap man!!!!! "I am looking for creative and aspiring models that want to expand their horizon and improve theire portfolios. " You don't even know what "improving" someones portfolio means!!!!!!!!!!! C'mon man... please..., nothing wrong with being a hobbyist at all, but if you make claims that can hurt aspiring professionals... you are really fucking up peoples lives!

Nov 18 06 11:30 pm Link

Model

ciaogoodbyeadios

Posts: 1907

Los Angeles, California, US

UdoR wrote:
Absolute statements like yours upset me!

So, a high fashion runway model, doing lingerie for Oscar De la Renta, or La Perla, but not cheesy low level ass in the air wannabe glamour shots for beginning photographers is someone with limitations, and according to your definition not a true model???

You better rephrase that crap! Yeah... I said crap... because it is so narrowminded beyond belief!

Toodles

Me


EDIT (after visiting your profile): Crap man!!!!! "I am looking for creative and aspiring models that want to expand their horizon and improve theire portfolios. " You don't even know what "improving" someones portfolio means!!!!!!!!!!! C'mon man... please..., nothing wrong with being a hobbyist at all, but if you make claims that can hurt aspiring professionals... you are really fucking up peoples lives!

I agree.  I will NEVER do lingerie unless Victoria's Secret knocks at my door.

EDIT:  With a fat paycheck.

Nov 18 06 11:34 pm Link

Model

immateria

Posts: 15446

Brooklyn, New York, US

A true photographer can take a model's limitations, whether they are physical, mental, intellectual, moral, whatever, and create something amazing. Generalization are fun, n'est pas?

Nov 18 06 11:54 pm Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Dave Krueger wrote:
I've been having the same problem.  The moment I mention farm animals, they get all uppity and storm off.

I've been having the same kind of issue about some of my anime themed shoots, and after all the trouble I went to to find an aquarium, that'd let me use their squid  sad

Nov 19 06 12:52 am Link

Photographer

Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

I'd like to do a shoot of a model signing a $183,000 check made payable to Brian Diaz.

A true model with no limits would do it, right?

Nov 19 06 12:54 am Link

Photographer

The Dave

Posts: 8848

Ann Arbor, Michigan, US

No Limits, that also means you right? Ok, Come out to Vegas, we will tie you to the Welcome to Las Vegas sign, nude & upside down and we take pictures of you. Oh, and we want to do it as a TFP shoot, no escorts, just you, well maybe the cops will come, we will be gone by then, they can untie you.

hahahahahah Riiiiiiiight!

Nov 19 06 01:15 am Link