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Rick Hughes Photography
Posts: 530
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Who is going to upgrade to Windows Vista? With all of the memory hogging programs we use as shooters I am wondering if Vista is necessary. I know that yo can't allow yourself to fall behind. Is this one of those times when upgrading is necessary? I am sure I will upgrade though probably not immediately. I will let a few bugs get worked out. __________________ Rick Hughes http://www.focusworkshops.com
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Chris Macan
Posts: 13020
HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US
Not me.....
I'm happy with my Windows 98.
(If it works why mess with it?)
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Ty Simone
Posts: 2885
Edison, New Jersey, US
Already in the process. waiting for the Licening agreement to come in. 
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CAP603
Posts: 1438
Niles, Michigan, US
Upgrade? Moving from coach to 1st class is an upgrade. Moving to Vista will be like running the marathon with 20 lb lead weights in your shoes.
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Analog Nomad
Posts: 4097
Pattaya, Central, Thailand
Isn't the recommended memory configuration 2GB? God only knows what it will be for Photoshop running on Vista. . . .
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Scott Kennelly
Posts: 198
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Everyone . . . eventually.
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David Simpson Images
Posts: 1328
Bangor, Maine, US
Its a memory hog from what I have heard. They like to add usless stuff for the run of the mill moron with a computer I have a feeling it will get in the way of big programs. Also it is bug heaven right now I'd give it 2 years before I would chance my stuff to it.
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Scott Kennelly
Posts: 198
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Chris Macan wrote:
Not me.....
I'm happy with my Windows 98.
(If it works why mess with it?) It DOESN'T work.
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EMG STUDIOS
Posts: 2033
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
Run it on VMWare first... but I'm in no rush.. no rush at all..
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Robert Feliciano
Posts: 580
New York, New York, US
I always wait until the first service pack.
However, if I had to buy a new system, I wouldn't hesitate if it was already installed.
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CICADA MOTION PICTURES
Posts: 142
Buffalo, New York, US
What the fuck is a "Windows Vista"?! Do yourselves a real favor and get OS Leopard for Mac when the time comes! Get Aperture too! Oh, yeah and get a Mac while you're at it. No photographer should be without one. A Mac that is.
Note: This has been a paid advertisment for Apple computers.
*just kidding*
But what the fuck is a "Windows Vista" anyway?! Seriously. lol
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4C 41 42
Posts: 11093
Nashville, Tennessee, US
I'm in no hurry. New software will just bring a whole bunch of bugs 'n security problems until they get all the patches in place. Also, the game plan for Microsoft is to release new bloatware every few years forcing everybody to scrap their old hardware in favor of new stuff which can handle the new seemingly bizzare hardware requirements. Meanwhile the actual speed and utility of the system stays about the same. It's just a way to suck money out of the users.
For example, my laptop and one of my desktops can only take 1 gig of memory each. Both will probably be useless with Vista. My PS computer is a dual core beast and it's relatively new. That one had better be able to handle Vista.
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Scott Kennelly
Posts: 198
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Vidmandave wrote:
Its a memory hog from what I have heard. They like to add usless stuff for the run of the mill moron with a computer I have a feeling it will get in the way of big programs. Also it is bug heaven right now I'd give it 2 years before I would chance my stuff to it. I heard that Windows 95 was a memory hog when it came out. Hmmmm...
I also heard (and experienced) the memory "hogginess" of WinXP when it came out. I tried using a Fast Dell workstation that was misconfigured with only 128 MB of RAM, and realized that 256 MB was a realistic minimum for WinXP. So, would you say WinXP is a memory hog today?
Most new OSes are memory hogs when they first come out. It's my guess that Windows Vista will be the best all-around expandable cross-platform performer in history. You'll be able to install it and run it on the system you bought or built last year, which only has 512 MB of RAM, or you'll be able to install it on the brand new dual-processor system you'll build next month to replace your old machine as your photo editing workstation, because you plan to install 8 GB of RAM, which Windows Vista will take full advantage of (as opposed to Windows 98, which can't). The Aero interface will give you many subtle advantages while you use this new system, though once you start to really stretch your legs in your new computing environment you'll start to realize that there really is a need for the faster dual-core processors that have been coming out this year.
Windows Vista is the future of Microsoft. Linux and OSX stand ready to take a huge bite out of Microsoft's market share in the near future, so Microsoft isn't going to play around. They've done a great (spectacular) job with WinXP (which I think is superior to OSX Tiger in many ways), and they certainly aren't going to step backward - not with all that hangs in the ballance.
We'll see, but it's my guess that Vista will be the X killer. Once Vista's wrinkles get smoothed out (mid-2007) and giants like HP, Dell, and Sony start delivering their next generation of dual-core dual-processor machines with 2 GB configurations running Aero, Apple really will need Time Machine (just to survive).
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EMG STUDIOS
Posts: 2033
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
CICADA MOTION PICTURES wrote:
What the fuck is a "Windows Vista"?! Do yourselves a real favor and get OS Leopard for Mac when the time comes! Get Aperture too! Oh, yeah and get a Mac while you're at it. No photographer should be without one. A Mac that is.
Note: This has been a paid advertisment for Apple computers.
*just kidding*
But what the fuck is a "Windows Vista" anyway?! Seriously. lol Microsofts Latest Operating System
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CameraSight
Posts: 1126
Roselle Park, New Jersey, US
bang bang photo wrote:
Isn't the recommended memory configuration 2GB? God only knows what it will be for Photoshop running on Vista. . . . Waiting to upgrade my computer first.
Running a P4 , 1.5mhz ,Windows XP with approx 640mb ram. I can get by with PhotoShop right now but if I shoot RAW , I need 2GB memory first and a faster cpu
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Chris Macan
Posts: 13020
HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US
Chris Macan wrote:
Not me.....
I'm happy with my Windows 98.
(If it works why mess with it?) Scott Kennelly wrote:
It DOESN'T work. What doesn't work?
Vista or Windows 98?
Youâre reply was a bit vague.
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4C 41 42
Posts: 11093
Nashville, Tennessee, US
Scott Kennelly wrote:
It's my guess that Windows Vista will be the best all-around expandable cross-platform performer in history. You'll be able to install it and run it on the system you bought or built last year, which only has 512 MB of RAM, or you'll be able to install it on the brand new dual-processor system you'll build next month to replace your old machine as your photo editing workstation, ... Somebody believes the hype!
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Charlie Schmidt
Posts: 856
Kansas City, Missouri, US
Scott Kennelly wrote:
...snip.. It's my guess that Windows Vista will be the best all-around expandable cross-platform performer in history. You'll be able to install it and run it on the system you bought or built last year, which only has 512 MB of RAM, or you'll be able to install it on the brand new dual-processor system you'll build next month to replace your old machine as your photo editing workstation, because you plan to install 8 GB of RAM, which Windows Vista will take full advantage of (as opposed to Windows 98, which can't). The Aero interface will give you many subtle advantages while you use this new system, though once you start to really stretch your legs in your new computing environment you'll start to realize that there really is a need for the faster dual-core processors that have been coming out this year. ...snip... Here in the heartland Windows Vista, is commonly called "MS Resista" as [in Beta] it seems to resist a lot of configuration changes....techs and users are having to reload, [commonly called a "loadOver"] the operating system, after several programs are loaded into the machine at the same time.....this doesn't seem to be a fluke, I understand MS knew about the possability and are working on the issue?!?!
I also agree with your statement, MS has a lot riding on this release, but since the conversion of the MAC to Intel based architecture, MS is securing it's place by diluteing the competition....It's the american way
As for the OP....I rushed from 95 to 98, and from 98 to NT, and from NT to XP....this time I am waiting, and I may be one of the last guys on the Mayhem to change!!!
Good luck to you all!
Charlie
And 98 workes great, I still have a 98 machine up and running!
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NovoCain
Posts: 192
Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
My laptop is a Centrino 1.6ghz with a gig of ram.. It works fine for 90% of my needs. My main desktop is an AMD Athlon 64 bit with 2 gigs ram.. It handles the rest. I have XP pro on both, with NO plans to change to vista.
I would, however, drop both systems in a heartbeat for a macbook pro.
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Tog
Posts: 55204
Birmingham, Alabama, US
When DX10 vid cards and HD capable cable card using TV tuners are both common and not insanely overpriced.. I'll get Vista..
Until then the major reasons I want it (HD Media Center PC and Photoshop in 64bit) are too expensive and unreleased..
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M B
Posts: 671
Chicago, Illinois, US
Will give it a little time to bake. Probably would plan to have 4 g of ram together before the change.
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Gary Blanchette
Posts: 5137
Irvine, California, US
My Dell was shipped a year ago with XP Pro 64bit OS. Still trying to get it together with that..
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Lotus Photography
Posts: 19253
Berkeley, California, US
i have a dual boot system
win2kpro for the windows based graphics programs that are out now
a linux partion for everything else
since i won't have to buy new windows apps and linux is free, i'll never have to pay for software again
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Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
I like the thumbnail size adjustment slider in Vista. These new righ resolution monitors make too many things too small to see.
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nathan combs
Posts: 3687
Waynesboro, Virginia, US
i am thinking about getting a new HIGH end computer built unforantly the only choice i have is to get it i am using 2000 now and it ben ok i would like to use linics but way to complicated for me and availability of programs is low it is just XP or 2000 are not going to let me run 64 programs fully
i am looking in to getting
ADM Athlon 64X2 5000+ 2.60hz
4gig ddr 2 ram
2 graphics cards 512 on each ddr 2
2 500 gig hard drives
and some other things
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CICADA MOTION PICTURES
Posts: 142
Buffalo, New York, US
EMG STUDIOS wrote:
Microsofts Latest Operating System Oh, I knew that man. Even though I said seriously at the end I was still joking. Kind of like if someone said, "Who the fuck is John Malkovich"?, and they were standing on a red carpet 5 feet away from the man.
I am a bonafide Macintosh guy. Apple all the way. I keep up on the OS's for other home computing apparatus such as the so called "PC", but I'm Mac all the way. I was just being silly with that remark that's all.
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SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
I wouldn't touch it for at LEAST the first year till the major bugs & security laws are worked out.
Not to mention their new security software verification system requires periodic re-contact to verify...like DAILY. That means your system will DEMAND you connect to the net at least once a day so it can dial in to Microsoft.
That makes me a bit nervous.
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Lotus Photography
Posts: 19253
Berkeley, California, US
SLE Photography wrote:
I wouldn't touch it for at LEAST the first year till the major bugs & security laws are worked out.
Not to mention their new security software verification system requires periodic re-contact to verify...like DAILY. That means your system will DEMAND you connect to the net at least once a day so it can dial in to Microsoft.
That makes me a bit nervous. thanks, i decided to go to linux for the money, lack of virus', the fact that vista was 3 gigs compressed and 12 gigs expanded (tried the beta version from ms), but having ms scan my computer on a daily basis is too much
linux is free, you can go to barnes and noble and get it in a magazine that costs ten bucks
with it you will get
open office =a microsoft office
gimp=photoshop elemets
plus tons more
if you went out and bought windows xp, and all the software that comes free with linux you'd spend $2k
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
I'm in no hurry to get Vista!
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SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
Thuy Anh wrote:
Apple. that is all. Eve said that once, and look what happened 
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Mann Made Imagery
Posts: 5281
Lubbock, Texas, US
SLE Photography wrote:
Eve said that once, and look what happened what? that they had to move out of their home and finally fend for themselves? bah, it happens to all of us. LOL
okay well then....
Mac, that is all. lol
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SLE Photography
Posts: 68937
Orlando, Florida, US
Thuy Anh wrote:
what? that they had to move out of their home and finally fend for themselves? bah, it happens to all of us. LOL
okay well then....
Mac, that is all. lol Mac & cheese, sounds good.
Computers you can't do anything with, not so good.
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Studio Spike
Posts: 978
New York, New York, US
Not I. MS has spent what...4 years trying to cram bad copies of Mac OS X features into this Vista thing? I'll just stick with the smooooth running real thing thanks.
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James Andrew Imagery
Posts: 6713
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
SLE Photography wrote:
Mac & cheese, sounds good.
Computers you can't do anything with, not so good. Agreed. Virusboxes suck.
Love my Mac.
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Offshore Photography
Posts: 202
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Just brought home my mac pro dual core and aperature Who needs vista
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Mann Made Imagery
Posts: 5281
Lubbock, Texas, US
SLE Photography wrote:
Mac & cheese, sounds good.
Computers you can't do anything with, not so good. not at all true, i build compies(nerd speak for computers), i also program, and i love Mac (especially for graphic work, design work, and I even know quite a few engineers who love it as well). you can do everything that a PC can do on it but smoother, better, faster. Vista is the Windows' "wanna-be Mac OS". Even the people who work for Windows dare not use it. Most of them use Mac. Coincidence? I think not.
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James Andrew Imagery
Posts: 6713
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Offshore Photography wrote:
Just brought home my mac pro dual core and aperature
Who needs vista Aperture rocks. My workflow is so much smoother with it now - don't know how I got along without it (well, bridge - which was survivable).
Enjoy your new mac!
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Offshore Photography
Posts: 202
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Avicdar wrote:
Aperture rocks. My workflow is so much smoother with it now - don't know how I got along without it (well, bridge - which was survivable).
Enjoy your new mac! Thanks I am lovin the switch froom bridge to aperture Very different no destructive workflow.
I was blown away.
have a great one and great work you produce
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l0stinsandieg0
Posts: 104
Escondido, California, US
I'm switching to Mac, now that I can afford it, LOL
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