Forums > General Industry > 2nd time model no-shows without call, email or txt

Photographer

j-shooter

Posts: 1912

San Francisco, California, US

How hard is it to send a text message "can't make the shoot, sorry"?

Try to be a good human being and pretend to care, just for the 30 seconds it takes to send a text message or email...

Nov 15 06 07:41 pm Link

Photographer

Chili

Posts: 5146

Brooklyn, New York, US

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

Nov 15 06 09:10 pm Link

Photographer

Moraxian

Posts: 2607

Germantown, Maryland, US

If a model misses a shoot with me without contacting me, they're required to provide 2 hours at no cost to me...if I book them again.

Nov 15 06 09:14 pm Link

Model

e-string

Posts: 24002

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Texting a cancellation is one of the most unprofessional things I've ever heard. Many photographers don't even use that feature on their phones.

Pick up the fucking phone, nitwits. Have some respect.

Nov 15 06 09:15 pm Link

Photographer

j-shooter

Posts: 1912

San Francisco, California, US

I'm saying that the LEAST a model could do is send a text....

Nov 15 06 09:46 pm Link

Photographer

stan wigmore photograph

Posts: 2397

Long Beach, California, US

How's this for one.Worked with two models ,both newbies.Both shoots paid,bend over backwards to make them feel comfortable.Let them bring escorts,provided mua for one.Shoot went fine,some good shots.All I ask is a response to my phone calls and emails after the shoot to see if they are interested in another shoot. I don't care if they don't want to work with me again. I just want the courtesty of a reply.How much does it take.
    However I did notice they cashed my checks in less time it would take to make a reply

Nov 16 06 01:27 pm Link

Model

e-string

Posts: 24002

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Jphoto wrote:
I'm saying that the LEAST a model could do is send a text....

And I'm saying a text isn't good enough.

Nov 16 06 01:32 pm Link

Model

Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

Chili wrote:
fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

"fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......you ain't gonna fool me again"

-p. bush.-

Nov 16 06 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

669

Posts: 25

San Francisco, California, US

e-string wrote:
Texting a cancellation is one of the most unprofessional things I've ever heard. Many photographers don't even use that feature on their phones.

Pick up the fucking phone, nitwits. Have some respect.

How can you not use that feature on your phone? Txt'ing isn't unprofessional at all.

Nov 16 06 01:58 pm Link

Model

e-string

Posts: 24002

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Daren wrote:

How can you not use that feature on your phone? Txt'ing isn't unprofessional at all.

A lot of people older than their upper 20s don't even sign up for that feature on their cell plans and therefore do not even receive texts that may be sent to them.

It's very unprofessional. It's something friends do, not industry professionals.

Nov 16 06 02:03 pm Link

Model

ImMissKitty

Posts: 7

You know, every day I see photographers complaining about flaky models and no-shows. Why don't you guys do something about it? I'm sick and tired of not being able to count on a model or actress to show up after they have officially confirmed. I even call them to remind them the day before! (I am also a Casting Director.)

So, I've decided to make The List on my profile.
I'm not going to include girls who cancelled last minute or who had valid reasons or who expressed interest but then i never heard from again.

These are girls who confirmed and then never showed, and never even called me with an explanation.

Its gonna piss a lot of people off, but I would want to know if a model is known as a "no-show" before I count on her to show up to an expensive video location shoot!

Nov 16 06 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

j-shooter

Posts: 1912

San Francisco, California, US

e-string wrote:
A lot of people older than their upper 20s don't even sign up for that feature on their cell plans and therefore do not even receive texts that may be sent to them.

It's very unprofessional. It's something friends do, not industry professionals.

Are you impugning my professionalism?

Cause that's not very professional!

Read the original post. I'm saying the least the model could do was text. If a phone doesn't have text capability, the message bounces back to the sender.

Chill out with the negativity!

Nov 16 06 02:24 pm Link

Model

Dances with Wolves

Posts: 25108

SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US

Jphoto wrote:
If a phone doesn't have text capability, the message bounces back to the sender.

Nope. FALSE FALSE FALSE.

I have sent text messages to users without that function (i.e. still living in a cave) and it doesn't bounce back.

Nov 16 06 02:58 pm Link

Model

_Alexandra

Posts: 650

Alexandria, Virginia, US

ImMissKitty wrote:
Why don't you guys do something about it?

If a model is new and inexperienced, she probably doesn't have any references.  Otherwise, I'd say ask for references ahead of time or go ahead and ask the photographers that he/she has worked with (which models normally list in their profile or give credit to on pictures) regarding his/her work ethnic and professionalism.

Nov 16 06 03:15 pm Link

Model

Alix Andrea

Posts: 3035

Los Angeles, California, US

Daniela V wrote:

Nope. FALSE FALSE FALSE.

I have sent text messages to users without that function (i.e. still living in a cave) and it doesn't bounce back.

It doesnt bounce back, but I do know people who dont even have the text messaging function enabled on their phone and they just dont receive the messages, no matter how many you send. I know this for sure because I have a friend who ran her bill waaay up thru texting and her mom got it disabled, so whenever I send her a text it says its sent but it never appears on her phone.

Nov 16 06 03:19 pm Link

Model

Alix Andrea

Posts: 3035

Los Angeles, California, US

Jphoto wrote:

Are you impugning my professionalism?

Cause that's not very professional!

Read the original post. I'm saying the least the model could do was text. If a phone doesn't have text capability, the message bounces back to the sender.

Chill out with the negativity!

True that! It doesnt take much to pick up the phone or at the very least send a text saying you cant make it. Id rather get a cancellation text than be sitting there waiting wondering what happened.

Nov 16 06 03:20 pm Link

Photographer

Doug Jantz

Posts: 4025

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

e-string wrote:
Texting a cancellation is one of the most unprofessional things I've ever heard. Many photographers don't even use that feature on their phones.

Pick up the fucking phone, nitwits. Have some respect.

YES!!!!!!!!!!  We text too many things that should be talked about.  You have your answer, no more shooting with this girl!

Nov 16 06 03:21 pm Link

Photographer

Doug Jantz

Posts: 4025

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Alix Andrea wrote:

It doesnt bounce back, but I do know people who dont even have the text messaging function enabled on their phone and they just dont receive the messages, no matter how many you send. I know this for sure because I have a friend who ran her bill waaay up thru texting and her mom got it disabled, so whenever I send her a text it says its sent but it never appears on her phone.

Doesn't really matter.  The OP's post was intended to ask why she couldn't let him know she wasn't coming, by at the very LEAST sending a text

Nov 16 06 03:22 pm Link

Photographer

Doug Jantz

Posts: 4025

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

e-string wrote:

A lot of people older than their upper 20s don't even sign up for that feature on their cell plans and therefore do not even receive texts that may be sent to them.

It's very unprofessional. It's something friends do, not industry professionals.

Not true anymore!  LOL  I know several people over 30 and 40 who text a lot.  My mom is 72 and has texting!

Nov 16 06 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

Mikel Featherston

Posts: 11103

San Diego, California, US

I think one of the issues that e-string is bringing up is that text messages are not a reliable form of communications for time-critical messages. And if you have the time to key in a message, you have the time to dial the cell phone, and at the very least leave a voice message.

Nov 16 06 03:30 pm Link