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In Europe we do nude with out worry of so many nude sub types. Nude is Nude ! In US its like Glamour, Artistic, Erotic, Fetish, Bodyscape, Natural, etc. Why so many types and name conventions in US and Whats your favorite ? Also for those you like the nth degree ... What type of nude is this one ... https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=1685885 EL Nov 13 06 11:03 am Link that link looks pretty nude to me.. but i never really gotten the whole nude thing.. long as it dont show a nipple or the Tip of a 'shaft' its artistic or what ever else.. but not XXX stuff because the stuff is covered.. dont ask me.. but that's what i get out of it.. Nov 13 06 11:08 am Link Probably because nudity is still such an issue that it has a more immediate "prurient" association in North America that colors the way most folks see them. In Europe there aren't so many complex strategies created to justify certain types of nudity and privilege them over other forms. Although I'm certainly not saying that I feel all nudity has the same intent, or is equally artistic. Just that a photographer in Europe is at less risk of being "denounced" for erotic content. Glamour- nudes with too much makeup. Often involves partial concealment, fractional modesty, tiny bits of clothing, high heels. Intended to titillate but not make one feel too guilty. Erotic- almost pornography with good studio lighting. Can be explicit, but is more interested in the shapes of the bodies than their genital details. Porn- intended to arouse, little or no artistic pretensions. Heavily "fetishised" by decades of conventions. Fetish- erotic with particular fetish strategies- bondage, feet, latex, etc. Usually gets away with being less explicit than normal Porn because the audience is titillated by the props, etc., more than the actual nudity. Sometimes it has no nudity at all. Artistic Nudes- nudity used as part of a larger design. Generally the light, setting, angle, use of color, etc., are at least as important as the model's nudity. Usually not explicit, as the intent is not to arouse. Bodyscape- a common type of artistic nudity, seeking to abstract the body a little and show it differently by using close-up work, etc. Natural- an appeal for realism, not as polished as artistic nudes usually are, but closer in nature to them than they are to other categories. Often trying to make a statement about a moment of "normal life' as opposed to a carefully staged moment. Obviously there are exceptions to all these categories, and people working in one category but claiming it's another.. this is just a rough sketch of my own point of view on the subgenres. Nov 13 06 03:13 pm Link Believe it or not, for a lot of us here in the United States, nude is just nude too. I myself hate putting labels on my nudes as much as I hate putting labels on my music. Nov 13 06 04:43 pm Link PIC wrote: Looks a bit like the illustrated nude. Nov 13 06 04:46 pm Link we have s many catagories so that people can fool themselves into believing they are less morally bankrupt than the next person when they pose/shoot nudes. Nov 13 06 04:50 pm Link Ransom J wrote: LOL - Nov 13 06 07:22 pm Link Most Americans are really uptight about nudity and sex. Which is why we are so obsessed with sex in pop culture.  Nov 14 06 09:26 am Link Personally I prefer "naked," not "nude," and all that implies. End of story. Nov 14 06 09:29 am Link PIC wrote: I don't have a favourite type nude really. Does the image work or appeal to me, or not. That's what it boils down to for me. Nov 14 06 09:38 am Link Ransom J wrote: Eloquently spoken! Nov 14 06 09:47 am Link There are those of us in the states that aren't concerned with the morality of nude, thankfully. I have much better things to worry about than whether naked is a problem or not. Its a shame that americans as a whole present the idea that they are uptight about sex. I wish there were a solution to it... but I don't really see one. Nov 14 06 09:48 am Link ...seems the "watchdogs" of American mores are more in favor of media/advertising displaying bondage, fetish, blood, murder, rape and gore than the human nude. My photographs have been censured at so-called art exhibits in favor of photos of photos from the Abu Ghraib prison fiasco - go figure: http://dgoldphoto.com/press/pawtuckettimes.htm http://dgoldphoto.com/press/projo.htm Ce la vie! Nov 14 06 10:01 am Link NC17 wrote: Perhaps it is a time thing. Nov 14 06 12:16 pm Link Types of nude gives the potential model for them an idea of the look the photographer will be going for as far as posing,expression,style,etc. nude is not always just nude. Compare Cunningham to Hustler and you`ll see there is a difference. I have also heard and noticed that even if you are going to do some erotic nudes, ads saying art nude as apposed to erotic nude get more response even from models OK with doing erotic nudes. Nov 14 06 12:19 pm Link Some American are very prudish regarding nudity. I had my picture made with the Venus and Psyche sculpture at the Louvre on my trip to Paris earlier this year. I shared it along with other photos from my trip with my family. My mother called to thank me for sending everyone a picture of me standing with two naked people. I honestly didn't even think twice about the sculpture besides being anything but beautiful...lol. I think because I took figure drawing classes in college and then later in life became a nudist, that the nude human form doesn't cause me to stop and think twice...and I am sometimes taken aback when I am reminded that others aren't similar minded in that regard. Nov 14 06 12:46 pm Link PIC wrote: They are as morally bankrupt as any skin shooter for Playboy. Helmut. or anybody else that shoots nudes. Nov 14 06 04:51 pm Link Ransom J wrote: ditto. i think nude for the sake of seeing a naked body is nothing more than porn (which i have no problem with). that covers 99.99% of those shotting for playboy and the others alike. if the purpose of shooting nude is to create a new piece of art (be it visual or emotional), then it is art. most people who don't shoot nude doesn't know how hard it is to make naked body look good. you have nothing to work with other than a piece of plain canvas. so, for me it is either art or porn. not nude or naked. Nov 14 06 06:07 pm Link LHC Photography wrote: That definition simply doesn't work. Because on one axis you have the intent of the artist and on the other the intent of the viewer. Nov 14 06 06:09 pm Link I don't call them nudes. I call them dermascapes. Nov 14 06 06:59 pm Link LHC Photography wrote: You ditto me but we aren't actually in agreeance at all. Nov 14 06 07:02 pm Link |
