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Photographer

FemmeArt

Posts: 880

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Look, if the model is only mediocre, do NOT barrage her with compliments and pay her hundreds of dollars per hour to simply stand there and look like a dork. 

Ugh!  Be real--it's better both for you and for the model!!!

Sorry, just had to vent--long story...

Nov 07 06 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

Aaron Schomburg

Posts: 31

Hastings, Minnesota, US

I feel your pain.

Nov 07 06 07:43 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

FemmeArt wrote:
Look, if the model is only mediocre, do NOT barrage her with compliments and pay her hundreds of dollars per hour to simply stand there and look like a dork. 

Ugh!  Be real--it's better both for you and for the model!!!

Sorry, just had to vent--long story...

Uugghhh...

... why not?

If the photographer feels that the mediocre model is someone who is better than that photographer ever shot with and is willing to pay... and the mediocre model shot sofar with photographers who were even worse, and accepts a paid job, since she MAY HAVE TO PAY BILLS too...

What the hell is wrong with that...

Are we ending up in this elitist realm again?

I wrote about this in this thread:

What's with the "What's with the [...]?" threads?
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=66782

Think about it!

Nov 07 06 08:35 pm Link

Model

K Ann

Posts: 713

Renton, Washington, US

If a mediocre model can get 100s of dollars to do some work more power to her. Sucks for the chump photog though.

Nov 08 06 01:56 am Link

Photographer

Leonard Gee Photography

Posts: 18096

Sacramento, California, US

Well, the poor guy can go to a strip joint and pay hundreds of dollars to an ugly, bad dancer for a few 3 minute thrills and walk out with zip. At least his way he has some blurry, badly lite pictures, right?

Nov 08 06 11:49 am Link

Photographer

darkfotoart

Posts: 982

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

i like cute chubby girls that wear glasses and have strait plain hair and no makeup .   if i want to pay a 5 foot 6 in   180 pound girl $100 an hour than i will .   im not the only fricken guy on earth that likes cute chubby babes.     so your saying im inferior to you because i dont want your stereotype model.    kiss my ass

Nov 08 06 09:30 pm Link

Model

K Ann

Posts: 713

Renton, Washington, US

darkfotoart wrote:
so your saying im inferior to you because i dont want your stereotype model.

A great model is a greeat model no matter what she looks like. I don't he was trying to say that you shouldn't have to pay a girl who's not 5'9'' and 105 pounds, just don't overpay a girl who doesn't produce good shots.

Nov 09 06 04:13 am Link

Model

club Jeska

Posts: 3847

Riverside, California, US

FemmeArt wrote:
Look, if the model is only mediocre, do NOT barrage her with compliments and pay her hundreds of dollars per hour to simply stand there and look like a dork. 

Ugh!  Be real--it's better both for you and for the model!!!

Sorry, just had to vent--long story...

in my opinion the girl in your first picture is mediocre
but i guess you thought she looked good.

so why did you post this?

Nov 09 06 04:29 am Link

Model

K Ann

Posts: 713

Renton, Washington, US

jeskavardinski wrote:
in my opinion the girl in your first picture is mediocre

I agree, she doesn't have what the others in your port have. At least not in that shot.

Nov 09 06 04:35 am Link

Photographer

Mgaphoto

Posts: 4982

San Diego, California, US

jeskavardinski wrote:

in my opinion the girl in your first picture is mediocre
but i guess you thought she looked good.

so why did you post this?

I didnt see where it said he paid her so maybe you forgot what his original message was about 5 posts up?

Nov 09 06 04:36 am Link

Model

club Jeska

Posts: 3847

Riverside, California, US

( ANT ) Mgaphoto wrote:

I didnt see where it said he paid her so maybe you forgot what his original message was about 5 posts up?

whatever quit being bitter toward me

Nov 09 06 04:37 am Link

Model

K Ann

Posts: 713

Renton, Washington, US

If he's bashing mediocrity he should have some excellent shots, and he does but the first one you see looks like a shot a guy would take of his girlfriend before he goes on a long trip or something.

Nov 09 06 04:41 am Link

Model

club Jeska

Posts: 3847

Riverside, California, US

KelseyAnn wrote:
If he's bashing mediocrity he should have some excellent shots, and he does but the first one you see looks like a shot a guy would take of his girlfriend before he goes on a long trip or something.

thats what i am sayin!

Nov 09 06 04:43 am Link

Model

BeccaNDSouth

Posts: 1670

Olympia, Washington, US

FemmeArt wrote:
Look, if the model is only mediocre, do NOT barrage her with compliments and pay her hundreds of dollars per hour to simply stand there and look like a dork. 

Ugh!  Be real--it's better both for you and for the model!!!

Sorry, just had to vent--long story...

The same goes for models paying mediocre photographers, I would think. If a photographer with less-than-appealing shots in his/her portfolio insists on no tfp, then why can't a so-called mediocre model get paid for her time? I'm not saying that such said models should advertise that they ONLY do paid shoots, but if they are offered pay for shooting with one of those "sucker photographers," then I say more power to them!

Nov 09 06 07:04 am Link

Photographer

Geo Silva

Posts: 533

Whittier, California, US

UdoR wrote:

Uugghhh...

... why not?

If the photographer feels that the mediocre model is someone who is better than that photographer ever shot with and is willing to pay... and the mediocre model shot sofar with photographers who were even worse, and accepts a paid job, since she MAY HAVE TO PAY BILLS too...

What the hell is wrong with that...

Are we ending up in this elitist realm again?

I wrote about this in this thread:

What's with the "What's with the [...]?" threads?
https://www.modelmayhem.com/posts.php?thread_id=66782

Think about it!

You tell 'em!  I completely agree.

Nov 09 06 07:36 am Link

Photographer

vanWingo

Posts: 177

Lawrenceville, Georgia, US

FemmeArt wrote:
... if the model is only mediocre ...

And who is the arbiter of mediocrity?

Nov 09 06 07:48 am Link

Model

LaViolette

Posts: 9865

Hollywood, Florida, US

FemmeArt wrote:
Look, if the model is only mediocre, do NOT barrage her with compliments and pay her hundreds of dollars per hour to simply stand there and look like a dork. 

Ugh!  Be real--it's better both for you and for the model!!!

Sorry, just had to vent--long story...

Can I ask what happened?

Nov 09 06 07:40 pm Link

Photographer

Studio Spike

Posts: 978

New York, New York, US

It's my time and money, why the heck do you care?

Nov 09 06 09:27 pm Link

Photographer

Tee Batinich

Posts: 26

Riverside, California, US

darkfotoart wrote:
i like cute chubby girls that wear glasses and have strait plain hair and no makeup .   if i want to pay a 5 foot 6 in   180 pound girl $100 an hour than i will .   im not the only fricken guy on earth that likes cute chubby babes.     so your saying im inferior to you because i dont want your stereotype model.    kiss my ass

hA ha ha ! That's funny.

Nov 09 06 10:37 pm Link