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Model

Squishy

Posts: 14

Chicago, Illinois, US

Someone told me that there was a software you could get that would prevent people from right clicking and taking your pictures. Does anyone know anything about this? I've seen it sometimes on sites when I try to right click, and a popup comes up and tells me I am trying to perform an illegal action.

Nov 03 06 01:57 pm Link

Photographer

James Jackson Fashion

Posts: 11132

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

that is a javascript action.

It *DOES NOT* prevent anyone from stealing your pics

If you are planning on making money from some set of pictures: Do Not Put Them On The Internet

The only way to keep images from being downloaded (and thus copied) is to not display them.

Nov 03 06 02:01 pm Link

Model

Jessalyn

Posts: 21433

Denver, Colorado, US

no matter what you do someone can always steal your images. Look on your keyboard, see the button marked "Print Screen"? hit that....then go into Microsoft Word and hit paste and see what happens.

Nov 03 06 02:02 pm Link

Photographer

Big Jim Slade

Posts: 258

Arlington, Virginia, US

Squishy wrote:
Someone told me that there was a software you could get that would prevent people from right clicking and taking your pictures. Does anyone know anything about this? I've seen it sometimes on sites when I try to right click, and a popup comes up and tells me I am trying to perform an illegal action.

It is javascript code specifically for Internet Explorer, and may work with some other browsers.  If you own the web site then you can implement it.  It will stop most brides from downloading pictures you have put up for them to choose to purchase.  It won't work as a general keep people from downloading.

I find this very irritaing because it does not specifically stop downloading, but prevents the right click menu from being used.  The right click menu is very useful even if you never download a photo.

I recall a site I once liked with lots of model pictures.  It was way too slow.  So I set my computer to download the entire sit, then looked at all the pictures off line.  Yes, I have a copy of every picture on the site on mt desktop computer.

Any group that steals pictures wholesale will not be deterred by a javascipt, particularly since they use tools that do not read javascript.

For limited protection of proving the pictures are yours, you can use digital watermaks on your photos.

Nov 03 06 02:21 pm Link

Photographer

POLARPICS

Posts: 2449

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

theres are some remedies and tips to help prevent right clicking issues or copying the pictures.

1) becareful where you post them

2) only post good ones of you, so if someone steals it, atleast its a GOOD one

3) in photoshop you add copywritten logos on the pic, or adding proof copy, or something creative.

4) theres is scripting codes on the net that disbale right/left click to download but only useable if you own your own web page and can write code in html

5) they have software for the "dirty hackers who steal pictures" that have screen capture programs that capture a region of the web page , a section, or all images and it saves it to the hard drive

6) covert pictures into a slideshow, or flash

7) look deeper into the net for solutions

Nov 03 06 02:23 pm Link

Photographer

Chris Beyond

Posts: 1526

Tustin, California, US

Big Jim Slade wrote:
For limited protection of proving the pictures are yours, you can use digital watermaks on your photos.

I agree with this. It sucks to have to do it, but I've ended up making every one of my pictures a virtual business card after seeing some of my earlier images pop up elsewhere. Just something you have to do if you plan on advertising yourself online.

Nov 03 06 02:25 pm Link

Photographer

MS Foto

Posts: 2224

Manchester, New Hampshire, US

Jessalyn wrote:
no matter what you do someone can always steal your images. Look on your keyboard, see the button marked "Print Screen"? hit that....then go into Microsoft Word and hit paste and see what happens.

This is one way around right-click downloads, but it's a lot like recording a song off the radio with a microphone. It's not really a high quality copy.
   As said already, someone who is savy can grab anything that's posted, so the only deterrent I can think of is to keep the images small, low resolution, and with a watermark...

Nov 03 06 02:28 pm Link

Model

Squishy

Posts: 14

Chicago, Illinois, US

If you do the watermark thing, do you have to use your real name for it to be illegal if someone else were to post the images? I don't really want my real name all over everything.

Nov 03 06 02:31 pm Link

Photographer

Emeritus

Posts: 22000

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Squishy wrote:
Someone told me that there was a software you could get that would prevent people from right clicking and taking your pictures. Does anyone know anything about this?

Sure.  Any virus bad enough to disable your computer so you can't put pictures on the Internet will work.  So will unplugging it, permanently.

Nov 03 06 02:37 pm Link

Photographer

James Jackson Fashion

Posts: 11132

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Squishy wrote:
If you do the watermark thing, do you have to use your real name for it to be illegal if someone else were to post the images? I don't really want my real name all over everything.

Wait... let me get this straight...


*tries to stop laughing and fails*


*eyes watering*

Ok...

*cough*

You don't want people to have your picture.  You don't want them to know your name....

*breaks out in laughter again*

But you want to model!?

Nov 03 06 02:41 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Bowman

Posts: 6511

Los Angeles, California, US

The day people start stealing my photos is the day I've arrived, truly.  Nothing like the attention of theives to make you feel like you have something of value.


If you're worried about people "stealing" your pictures on the internet, then don't be on the internet.  Otherwise, just accept the fact that if someone wants one of your low resolution internet files, they'll figure a way to get them...

Nov 03 06 02:51 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Austin

Posts: 12165

Austin, Texas, US

Jay Bowman wrote:
The day people start stealing my photos is the day I've arrived, truly.  Nothing like the attention of theives to make you feel like you have something of value.


If you're worried about people "stealing" your pictures on the internet, then don't be on the internet.  Otherwise, just accept the fact that if someone wants one of your low resolution internet files, they'll figure a way to get them...

I agree.  If someone stole my pictures I think I would feel honored.  Squishy, I looked at your port and I understand what you are saying though.  Will email.

Nov 03 06 03:02 pm Link

Photographer

James Jackson Fashion

Posts: 11132

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Eric5312 wrote:
Squishy, I looked at your port and I understand what you are saying though.

Yeah... I looked too.

There's no reason those photos should be on the internet.

If you don't want people to have them, do not post them.

Nov 03 06 03:04 pm Link

Photographer

Madcrow Photographics

Posts: 7805

Boston, Massachusetts, US

It will happen anyway, so my theory is to figure out a way to make that stealing productive for you! Most importantly, you should create a watermark. It should be visible and easily legibe and contain your web address. That way, anybody who sees it will look at your profile and you might get a job or two. You should also release your work under a license such as the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/) . It's amazing how cooperative people will be when you say: feel free to give me publicity by sharing my pictures, just make sure you let people know who I am.

Nov 03 06 03:04 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

and stealing the images (low-resolution, web-compressed, noone-in-their-right-mind-would-put-up-with-this-shit if there was a better way nasty quality) achieves what?

Nov 03 06 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

J A M E S

Posts: 185

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Jessalyn wrote:
no matter what you do someone can always steal your images. Look on your keyboard, see the button marked "Print Screen"? hit that....then go into Microsoft Word and hit paste and see what happens.

Hey that does work.  Dammmmmmnnnniiiitttt!  Can't a man (or a woman)  keep their own $hit and show it at the same time?  What has this world come to?  Can I blame this one on Bush too?  Why not? I blame Bush!

; {

Nov 03 06 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Those right-click html / javascript prevent code can be easily circumvented, even by people like me.  It'll prevent 90% of the visitors from "stealing" your picture, but not 100%.

But still, here's what I do:

   1)  I keep the image sizes modest -- no more than 550 pixels in the longest
        dimension.

   2)  I use a moderate compression for the images I post.  That does double-duty:
        it makes web pages load faster, and it makes the image less suitable for
        blowing up or printing.

   3)  I get over myself & stop worrying.  So far, I've eventually found the few
        instances of people using my pictures without permission, and all these
        cases have been resolved to my satisfaction.

Nov 03 06 03:18 pm Link

Photographer

Madcrow Photographics

Posts: 7805

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Why even bother? The more your images spread, the more free publicity you get. I would focus on making my images as good an advertisement of myself as possible rather than making them impossible to spread. That means that rather than limiting the resolutions of my images or over-compressing them, I simply release them in a way that means it doesn't matter if some guy saves a copy to his hard drive or posts one to his blog. I just get more publicity,

Nov 03 06 03:19 pm Link

Photographer

Big Jim Slade

Posts: 258

Arlington, Virginia, US

Squishy wrote:
If you do the watermark thing, do you have to use your real name for it to be illegal if someone else were to post the images? I don't really want my real name all over everything.

Several people have suggested that you not merely watermark your photos, but plaster your self promotion all over the thing.

But, no you do not have to put your real name on the picture.  Assuming you took the picture, then you own the copyright on it.  If a photographer took the picture (which seems more likely) then he owns the image and you cannot post it without his permission.

If you wish to declare copyright in writing, then I believe you have to be a "person" so you have to use your real name or the name of a corporation.  Your watermark can be any resonable design you wish to implement that connot be easily forged or removed.  If you use your name then it is easier to trace it back to you, but whatever you use, you must have a mechanism for proving it is you.

For instance, my driver's license does not read "Big Jim Slade".  If I watermarked my photos I personally potographed with "Big Jim Slade" it would be harder to prove they are mine than if I used my actual name.  But unless the other person is known as Big Jim Slade as well, then it seems likely I would prevail.

Nov 03 06 06:20 pm Link

Photographer

g2-new photographics

Posts: 2048

Boston, Massachusetts, US

If you post them, they can be stolen.

Your choice.

smile

Nov 03 06 06:21 pm Link

Model

RDawkins

Posts: 4532

Breckenridge, Colorado, US

Oh my God. Someone stealing your photographs should *not* be your main concern right now if I read your profile correctly. Whoa.

EDIT: The "stealing" images crisis is generally of more concern to the photographer who holds the copyright to the, ahem, work of art. This is because they want one to pay for the image, and rightfully so. Models are generally concerned with getting as much, again ahem, exposure as possible. Exception to the rule being certain contractual agreements wherein percentages of publication profits goes to the model.

Girl, you just don't want people putting your amateur nekkid pictures on some porn site. I guarantee you that someone will, or has, and you won't know nor can you do anything about it. I'd lose those shots and decide if this is the industry you want to work in.

Nov 03 06 07:54 pm Link

Photographer

Searcher

Posts: 775

New York, New York, US

There is steganographic watermarking software, but it is expensive.

Nov 03 06 08:28 pm Link

Model

Squishy

Posts: 14

Chicago, Illinois, US

Boy, there sure are a lot of rude people replying to this post. I was only expressing a concern someone addressed to me, I really don't care if I end up on amateur sites. I highly doubt that any naked pictures of me is going to ruin my reputation. As we see from Hollywood, any publicity is good publicity. All I was really worried about was someone else claiming they were me and trying to get some craigslist dates out of it.

Thanks to people who had productive things to say. Thanks to those who didn't. You toughened my skin a little.

Nov 03 06 09:49 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

I think they've just about covered all the answers there....
But, you have an awesome face, you remind me of the twins from ANTM.

Whether or not you care about the nude photos... If you start out with nude photos, people will only want to shoot them. And it won't get you too far into doing other types of modeling...

Nov 04 06 12:57 am Link

Model

Miaa Rigby

Posts: 364

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

its also possible to highlight the image, and then hit ctrl + c to copy it.  all you have to do then is paste it into word and voila!  stolen picture.

Nov 04 06 12:59 am Link

Model

Krisha

Posts: 496

New York, New York, US

Jessalyn wrote:
no matter what you do someone can always steal your images. Look on your keyboard, see the button marked "Print Screen"? hit that....then go into Microsoft Word and hit paste and see what happens.

yep. that's done a lot i assume. (not sarcasm)

even though that can be done, i would think it would be good to upload photos in a interative flash section. that way there's no jpeg image to right click and copy.

might as well take away the easy stealing way tongue

another person is right too: people can't do much with stolen low-res jpeg images online

Nov 04 06 01:06 am Link

Photographer

Vintagevista

Posts: 11804

Sun City, California, US

I figure that the easy way for me is to multiple watermark the images.  All of my images here are multiple marked.

Put one obvious "Vintage Vista" out there.

Then put 2 more at 80-90% transparency in plances you know about - and can find easily.

I figure that most image thieves are already pretty lazy - and if they just crop out my obvious mark - my hidden ones will still show in the stolen image.

Or if they play the "Where's Waldo" and have to photoshop out all the hidden watermarks I have - they will move on to easier pastures.

VintageV (Who enjoyed trying to find the hidden bunny on all the Playboy covers as a kid)

Nov 04 06 10:53 am Link

Photographer

Christopher b Smyth

Posts: 195

Airdrie, Alberta, Canada

So has anyone stolen any of mine yet?

Hey I got an idea lets play a game find the hidden copyrights or watermarks.

Nov 04 06 07:31 pm Link

Model

Gingerwings

Posts: 667

Baltimore, Maryland, US

oldguysrule wrote:
and stealing the images (low-resolution, web-compressed, noone-in-their-right-mind-would-put-up-with-this-shit if there was a better way nasty quality) achieves what?

Satiation of some under-developed web hacker's ego..?

Nov 04 06 09:52 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

Gingerwings wrote:

Satiation of some under-developed web hacker's ego..?

LOL... well said. This is just not a concern for me and never has been. My images are all over the net thanks to scanners... still, it's never cost me a dime. Others have used them to promote themselves. again, no worries, they cannot do what I do or they'd not need the images anyway. If I spent 24/7 prosecuting internet duplication and non-commercial copyright infringement, I'd have no time to do anything else... and to what end?

Nov 05 06 03:16 am Link