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So, I get a message from a photographer asking me to come to a workshop because he likes my look and wants me there. He also wants to know if I could come to him to test as well (he is not located locally to me). He also asks what my rates would be for a "fashion" workshop. I reply and thank him for writing...I tell him that I'm not doing TFP for the rest of the year (mind you, it's in my profile as clear as day) but if he tells me what he wants to shoot, sends a copy of the release, etc. I can send him rates. I also ask him for specifics on the workshop. The response I get is basically: "I told you what type of workshop it is. I don't know why you're having a problem figuring out your rates. I am no longer interested." Wait..what??? I don't get it. I wanted to know what type of workshop it is....he said "Fashion", which can mean anything to me. This photographer doesn't have what I consider "Fashion" in his portfolio, so when I wrote him back, I said, I didn't know what type of fashion you meant. There's swimwear fashion, lingerie fashion, topless fashion (hello, Kate Moss much?)...and obviously those rates are different. Frankly, if he's going to throw me in a couture dress, I wouldn't charge at all. But I didn't think he was being specific, so I asked. I thought I was just doing my homework. Anyone wanna tell me what they would've done differently? Thanks -D Nov 01 06 10:44 am Link uh....test there are no rates. he wants to test---therefore no money hes using the test to get you there to shoot by using the whats your rates for a fashion shoot that he never intends to do.? Nov 01 06 10:48 am Link Daniela V wrote: What planet is he from? Nov 01 06 10:55 am Link don't you know you're supposed to just look pretty and not ask silly questions? Nov 01 06 11:01 am Link don't you know you're supposed to just look pretty and not ask silly questions? Nov 01 06 11:01 am Link Annique Delphine wrote: Oops Nov 01 06 11:01 am Link If they can't answer simple questions then don't bother working with them. Workshops are great and lots of fun, but with a good book and reputation, you shouldn't need a test maybe a go see... Or a super quick 10 min test to snap ten images to use for advertizement for the workshop... Nov 01 06 11:06 am Link sorry I'm confused.........what is a workshop? never heard of it. Nov 01 06 11:11 am Link Note to self: get a couture dress. size ? Nov 01 06 11:11 am Link UnoMundo Photography wrote: 4. Nov 01 06 11:12 am Link Annique Delphine wrote: It's basically where a model poses for a bunch of photographers, and they all give direction (what fun THAT is) at the same time..while they are all shooting, at the same time. Nov 01 06 11:14 am Link Why would swimwear fashion cost more than lingerie fashion? Are you better at one than the other, and therefore discount your rate for the weaker one? Nov 01 06 11:15 am Link Daniela V wrote: I knew you would come around ! Nov 01 06 11:16 am Link Christopher Ambler wrote: I charge differently for the two...and if the clothing is supplied, then the rates change again. Nov 01 06 11:17 am Link UnoMundo Photography wrote: What better place to spend New Year's? Nov 01 06 11:18 am Link Daniela V wrote: ohhh ok one of those. Never done that. I like having the model just to myself muawhahahahahahhahahahahaha Nov 01 06 11:19 am Link Daniela V wrote: I still don't understand. Are you a better model when the outfit is sheer than when it's not? Is that why you charge more for a sheer outfit? Nov 01 06 11:22 am Link Sounds like the guy was being more than a bit of a jerk. I don't see how trying to communicate with someone should evoke that kind of response even if he actually thought you misunderstood him. If this had been the tenth email exchange between you two, with more evidence that you were being dense or not getting it, then maybe there'd be some concern about your intelligence. Even there, though, it wouldn't have justified that kind of reaction. As has been asked in many another thread not unlike this one, "are you really sorry about this?" I mean, seriously, do you distrust your understanding of human interactions so much that you aren't sure this is an unjustified reaction on his part? If someone reacted to me that way, I'd not even bother replying back again. I'd thank my lucky stars -- or whatever it was that I put some faith in -- that this happened before I got involved with that individual. Trust yourself. Forget him. Check out my profile. -- rick Nov 01 06 11:22 am Link Annique Delphine wrote: What's good about the workshops though, is that the photographers meet new models there and then can have them to themselves on another shoot! Nov 01 06 11:23 am Link Christopher Ambler wrote: What I charge depends on the shoot, who I'm shooting with, the release, if I'm getting prints or not, MUA, blah blah blah....and, of course, how much I'm wearing. Nov 01 06 11:27 am Link So Shoot Me! wrote: Why...do you have a studio for me to rent? lol Nov 01 06 11:28 am Link Christopher Ambler wrote: Chris, don't be thick. That is the norm in the 'book rate' end of the 'legit' business. It is only here in neverneverland that things work otherwise. (exceptions noted for major talent with major contracts, etc. etc. if someone responds with some kate moss reference i will shit on their head!) Nov 01 06 11:29 am Link Daniela V wrote: It's the last item that has me confused. Nov 01 06 11:29 am Link Christopher Ambler wrote: I do not care to discuss how I arrive at my rates. Thank you for respecting same. Nov 01 06 11:31 am Link oldguysrule wrote: Neverneverland. indeed. Nov 01 06 11:32 am Link oldguysrule wrote: But she's only 5'7, so anyone can do runway. Nov 01 06 11:32 am Link Daniela V wrote: ~5'6-1/2"... and remember to rinse that stuff outta your hair ;-) Nov 01 06 11:35 am Link oldguysrule wrote: Nov 01 06 11:35 am Link Daniela V wrote: holy toledo....couture melts a womans heart !!!! My new secret weapon. Nov 01 06 11:59 am Link Daniela V wrote: Even I don't want to rent my studio! Nov 01 06 12:43 pm Link Daniela V wrote: Don't you worry about the images that come out from those shoots and where they may end up? When I first started out back in '97, i went to a lot and I have to admit that my images were far from good. it helped me, but I also noticed the other photographers that attended and some of them were very creepy. As a model, I would have never completed those shoots. Nov 01 06 11:59 pm Link |