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ClassicHorror

Posts: 4144

Spartanburg, South Carolina, US

He doesn't have a web prescence, or website.
He uses a point and shoot camera to mostly take pictures of himself.
Then he sits in his apartment and plays with Photoshop all day.

wink

He's Matt Mahurin.

CBS Sunday Morning did a segment on "photo Illustartion", and he was the featured artist.

He has book covers, books, the cover of Spin and GQ, and more Time covers than you can count!!!

...including the (in)famous O J "dark" cover.

He's living proof that breaking all the rules can be a good thing.

"The problem with following the herd is stepping in what they leave behind." - Hartley Peavey

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/sunday/main3445.shtml

Oct 29 06 04:26 pm Link

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far away

Posts: 4326

Jackson, Alabama, US

I just googled him... He's done it all hasn't he!

Here's an interview of him talking about his start and and where it took him -

http://www.tlchicken.com/view_story.php?ARTid=3345

Oct 29 06 04:35 pm Link

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The Dave

Posts: 320

Los Angeles, California, US

Actually... about 40 TIME covers, according to the article.

Thats pretty cool.  Keep in mind though, nobody is calling him a photographer, he's a "Photographic Illustrator" because most of his work is photoshop.  Do you think its less, because its photoshop?

Oct 29 06 04:43 pm Link

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ClassicHorror

Posts: 4144

Spartanburg, South Carolina, US

Do *I* think it's less because of Photoshop?
hahahaha. Hardly!!!
wink

Just pointing out that in all endeavors, there are set formulas that most people are encouraged to follow.


And then there are the innovators that do things their own way.

Oct 29 06 05:47 pm Link

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The German Woman

Posts: 1346

Berlin, Georgia, US

ClassicHorror wrote:
He's living proof that breaking all the rules can be a good thing.

The way I see it is that if you never break any rules you won't get ahead. And it's the breaking of rules that has gotten most big name photographers or most big name anything to where they are now.

Oct 31 06 02:36 pm Link

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glamourandlight

Posts: 199

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

When I was at ArtCentre he was a couple of years ahead of me. I never met him, he was in Illustration, I was in photo. Even before he graduated he was considered a star. my understanding is that he knows very little about photography, and does not care to. To him a camera is simply a tool, like a brush or sponge. Sure makes it work for him, doesn't he?

Oct 31 06 02:42 pm Link

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RBDesign

Posts: 2728

North East, Maryland, US

I have heard of him before. I did not see the CBS article before, the thing that struck me was not the guy you are talking about but all of the moronic comments on the article itself. How funny. People think that "photoshop" and image manipulation in advertising should be outlawed. Maybe we should outlaw using certain points of view, and makeup, and hair stylists, and certain lighting techniques, and so on. What an enlightened point of view. When will these idiots figure out advertising is all about presenting the product (beauty or otherwise) in the best possible way and/or associating the product with other desireable things (even fantasies).

Editorial images are a completely different story and debate which was the topic of the article. Why do these fools instantly jump to fashion advertising and the friggin "Dove clip"

RB

Oct 31 06 04:04 pm Link

Photographer

Searcher

Posts: 775

New York, New York, US

RBDesign wrote:
Maybe we should outlaw using certain points of view, and makeup, and hair stylists, and certain lighting techniques, and so on.

Good idea.

Oct 31 06 04:06 pm Link

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john hill

Posts: 361

Louisville, Kentucky, US

I bet he doesn't do TFP!!!!!  jh

Oct 31 06 04:07 pm Link

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Dan Howell

Posts: 3602

Kerhonkson, New York, US

Matt Mahurin has been one of the photographers I have enjoyed looking at for many years now.  While he may currently be using a point and shoot, he has used professional equipment when it suited him.  He is very knowledgable in photographic printing and several medias for illustration.  I have known people who have both assisted him and hired him for work.  I believe he has also taught illustration.

Bringing his work to light is another brilliant example of the creative and excellent work in the industry going on outside the narrow confines of photography/modeling web sites.

Oct 31 06 05:04 pm Link

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Pasha M

Posts: 948

Atlanta, Georgia, US

"If you live in the box, you will always be a cramp individual"

that is my quote for today.

You can use it if you want.  tongue

Oct 31 06 05:11 pm Link

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Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

about 4 years ago i was at the vatican seeing the crowd, pope john paul 2 came out on the balcony with matt, guy next to me says

'who's that with matt mahurin'

Oct 31 06 05:15 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

ClassicHorror wrote:
...including the (in)famous O J "dark" cover.

so he's a racist who manipulates images and calls them news.. hmm

wasn't that cover a mug shot? all he did was manipulate it, not very impressive to me.

Oct 31 06 05:29 pm Link

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MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

Daniel Norton wrote:

so he's a racist who manipulates images and calls them news.. hmm

wasn't that cover a mug shot? all he did was manipulate it, not very impressive to me.

Even though it wasn't very impressive to you (or me), just how does that make him a racist!!?

Nov 01 06 02:11 pm Link

Model

DELETE ACCOUNT

Posts: 5517

Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan

ClassicHorror wrote:
He doesn't have a web prescence, or website.
He uses a point and shoot camera to mostly take pictures of himself.
Then he sits in his apartment and plays with Photoshop all day.

wink

He's Matt Mahurin.

CBS Sunday Morning did a segment on "photo Illustartion", and he was the featured artist.

He has book covers, books, the cover of Spin and GQ, and more Time covers than you can count!!!

...including the (in)famous O J "dark" cover.

He's living proof that breaking all the rules can be a good thing.

"The problem with following the herd is stepping in what they leave behind." - Hartley Peavey

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/sunday/main3445.shtml

No sh t.  Wow.

Nov 01 06 02:12 pm Link

Model

Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

MMDesign wrote:
Even though it wasn't very impressive to you (or me), just how does that make him a racist!!?

That was quicker than I thought.... We have someone spouting racism on the first page....


This pics stands out to me... I love it.. All the other pics we were shown never showed just how dark and disturbing what happened actually was.

http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/10/2 … 128343.jpg

Nov 01 06 02:17 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

MMDesign wrote:

Even though it wasn't very impressive to you (or me), just how does that make him a racist!!?

go to this page and scroll to the bottom, see how he darkened the mug shot of OJ to make him look more "evil"

http://www.tlchicken.com/view_story.php?ARTid=3345

this is very showing to me.

Nov 01 06 03:15 pm Link

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Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

Daniel Norton wrote:

go to this page and scroll to the bottom, see how he darkened the mug shot of OJ to make him look more "evil"

http://www.tlchicken.com/view_story.php?ARTid=3345

this is very showing to me.

Ok, I still don't see how it's racist?

I can't stand it when people have to drag race into everything.

I, personally, think O.J. is guilty and I like the cover... are you going to say now that I am racist against my own race?

Nov 01 06 03:41 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

Lamonica wrote:
Ok, I still don't see how it's racist?

I can't stand it when people have to drag race into everything.

I, personally, think O.J. is guilty and I like the cover... are you going to say now that I am racist against my own race?

yes I am. You are racist against your own race wink

it's the psychology of making a black man seem more evil by making him more black. The cover of a news magazine it not suppose to be art, it's supposed to be news, he manipulated the images to make OJ seem more guilty (using a racist technique), that is wrong.

for the record, I think OJ did it as well, that doesn't make it right for the press to judge him.

Oh, this is the first time I have ever mentioned race in any context on any message board, I certainly don't drag race into everything.

If he's not racist, he's at least guilty of using racist fears to create imagery to sell magazines.

Nov 01 06 04:01 pm Link

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Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

I'm sorry, but anyone who can brutally stab a man and slit his wife's throat does an awesome job of making people fear him already.

Nov 01 06 04:03 pm Link

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Zeo

Posts: 311

Canton, Ohio, US

ClassicHorror wrote:
Just pointing out that in all endeavors, there are set formulas that most people are encouraged to follow. And then there are the innovators that do things their own way.

problem with that is most people think you're a freak show and won't work with you until you start getting results.

Nov 01 06 04:05 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

Lamonica wrote:
I'm sorry, but anyone who can brutally stab a man and slit his wife's throat does an awesome job of making people fear him already.

You need to watch the naked gun again wink He's a harmless buffoon big_smile

Nov 01 06 04:11 pm Link

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Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

Daniel Norton wrote:

You need to watch the naked gun again wink He's a harmless buffoon big_smile

Eh, I don't care how funny he is. I can't stand him. As many people who are serving life sentences for crimes they didn't commit, this asshole gets off because he was a football player....Psssh... And, now he's writing a book about how he would've done it "if" he did it.... RIGHT

Nov 01 06 04:14 pm Link

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Darkroomist

Posts: 2097

Saginaw, Michigan, US

Daniel Norton wrote:
yes I am. You are racist against your own race wink

it's the psychology of making a black man seem more evil by making him more black. The cover of a news magazine it not suppose to be art, it's supposed to be news, he manipulated the images to make OJ seem more guilty (using a racist technique), that is wrong.

for the record, I think OJ did it as well, that doesn't make it right for the press to judge him.

Oh, this is the first time I have ever mentioned race in any context on any message board, I certainly don't drag race into everything.

If he's not racist, he's at least guilty of using racist fears to create imagery to sell magazines.

Give me a frickin break!  Light is comforting and dark is scarey because of biology and it has nothing to do with race.  When in complete darkness you primary sense for navigation and threat detection/evasion (vision) is completely useless.  Light and illumination is always associated with knowledge, salvation, and intelligence because the ability to make artificial light was a monumental leap forward for human kind.  This is a pancultural truth.  If you darkened Gdubya to make him look evil it works because people don't like darkness not because he'd look more afro-american.  The same thing holds for OJ.  The artist was making him seem shadowy not "blacker".

The media judges everyone not just black people, Ken Lay, Mark Foley, Jack Abramhoff were all convicted in the press before trials even started.  It's what the media does.  Time's job is to sell readers to advertisers, not to dispense absolute truth.
-James

Nov 01 06 04:54 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

Please refer me to some examples of white people being made dark besides George Hamilton, which I will agree is very scary. wink

Nov 01 06 05:06 pm Link

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Darkroomist

Posts: 2097

Saginaw, Michigan, US

Daniel Norton wrote:
Please refer me to some examples of white people being made dark besides George Hamilton, which I will agree is very scary. wink

GIS "evil rumsfeld"
https://www.jwz.org/images/rumsfeld_evil2.jpg

"Dahmer"
https://disemia.com/creation/issue_9/reviews/dahmer.jpg

Nov 01 06 05:13 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

yikes! ok that is scary big_smile

Seriously though, was that really darkened? I'd like to see the original if so, this is something that I'm very interested in. The same way blush is used on the cheeks to hit an unconscious nerve about sex (you get flushed cheeks when you are aroused) this darkening thing fascinates me.

BTW Dahmer's shot is not darkened nearly the amount of OJ's if at all. it's shot under very contrasty light- OJ's shot is a clean mug shot.

Nov 01 06 05:17 pm Link

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Jonathan Garcia

Posts: 36

Sioux Falls, South Dakota, US

lotusphoto wrote:
about 4 years ago i was at the vatican seeing the crowd, pope john paul 2 came out on the balcony with matt, guy next to me says

'who's that with matt mahurin'

Totally hilarious.

Nov 01 06 05:22 pm Link

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MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

Daniel Norton wrote:

yes I am. You are racist against your own race wink

it's the psychology of making a black man seem more evil by making him more black. The cover of a news magazine it not suppose to be art, it's supposed to be news, he manipulated the images to make OJ seem more guilty (using a racist technique), that is wrong.

for the record, I think OJ did it as well, that doesn't make it right for the press to judge him.

Oh, this is the first time I have ever mentioned race in any context on any message board, I certainly don't drag race into everything.

If he's not racist, he's at least guilty of using racist fears to create imagery to sell magazines.

You don't just jump to conclusions, you practically mug them.

The cover of a news magazine is supposed to sell magazines. Darkening the image of OJ, and revealing his "darker side" does not a racist make. It makes an image that people will look at on the rack, which is what he was paid for in the first place. Believe what you will though.

Nov 01 06 05:48 pm Link

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Ought To Be Shot

Posts: 1887

Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada

Annique Delphine wrote:

The way I see it is that if you never break any rules you won't get ahead.

Agreed.

Nov 01 06 05:50 pm Link

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Timothy

Posts: 1618

Madison, Wisconsin, US

Rossi Photography wrote:
I just googled him... He's done it all hasn't he!

Here's an interview of him talking about his start and and where it took him -

http://www.tlchicken.com/view_story.php?ARTid=3345

Damn, they need to use paragraphs!

Nov 01 06 05:51 pm Link

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Dan Howell

Posts: 3602

Kerhonkson, New York, US

Daniel Norton wrote:
so he's a racist who manipulates images and calls them news.. hmm

wasn't that cover a mug shot? all he did was manipulate it, not very impressive to me.

So you are ready to put a lable on him based on one image he has created on assignment out of a whole career of work?  I hope you are ready to stand up to that same narrow view when people look closely at your work.

Nov 01 06 06:38 pm Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

Dan Howell wrote:

So you are ready to put a lable on him based on one image he has created on assignment out of a whole career of work?  I hope you are ready to stand up to that same narrow view when people look closely at your work.

Funny, I was just thinking that on the train ride home. I came back to this thread to say I think part of the psychology of that specific image has racist undertones... but, that does not make him a racist.

Nov 01 06 08:04 pm Link