Forums > General Industry > Why does glamour get such a bad rap?

Photographer

Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

Stacy Leigh wrote:
Worse I don't think a man alive would get a woody from my pics either.

I think you don't understand men well enough then.

Cases in point (and I mean this in a complimentary way):

https://img4.modelmayhem.com/061006/00/4525eb6f04a42_m.jpg https://img4.modelmayhem.com/060911/22/45062e5fb8b37_m.jpg
https://img4.modelmayhem.com/060811/00/44dc13b8aaaee_m.jpg https://img4.modelmayhem.com/060711/17/44b4256ae53a5_m.jpg

Oct 27 06 12:31 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

People who live in glass houses should not *bump* for Brian.

EDIT:

Jesus.. You made me bump for plastic sex?  Bleh!

Oct 27 06 12:35 am Link

Photographer

Stacy Leigh

Posts: 3064

New York, New York, US

Paramour Productions- I am pround to be in the same sentance as you, let alone the same genre (am I spelling genre correctly??) Is there a place for this type of photography? (and don't anybody answer with a pot-shot. I scare off easily)

Oct 27 06 12:43 am Link

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Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

W.G. Rowland wrote:
People who live in glass houses should not *bump* for Brian.

EDIT:

Jesus.. You made me bump for plastic sex?  Bleh!

You're LOVING every minute of this aren't you Bill?

Oct 27 06 12:44 am Link

Photographer

Stacy Leigh

Posts: 3064

New York, New York, US

W.G. Rowland wrote:
People who live in glass houses should not *bump* for Brian.

EDIT:

Jesus.. You made me bump for plastic sex?  Bleh!

Hey now!!! they're pretty, and I like to dress them up and photograph them.

smile

Oct 27 06 12:45 am Link

Photographer

Stacy Leigh

Posts: 3064

New York, New York, US

Thanks Brian wink

It's nice to know I can give a guy a woodie with my pics. So I am a glamour photographer after all...

Oct 27 06 12:48 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

W.G. Rowland wrote:
Has this turned into everyone against Ransom J?

You kids better not make me turn this thread around!

Not at all I dig Ransom!  But I don't think I'm getting across what I'm trying to say, which makes perfect sense because the thoughts are not really clear in my mind yet - so I suppose I can't really express them well yet...

Oct 27 06 12:51 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

Ransom J wrote:

Nah, aside from a couple of pissy models mad that SI makes the swimsuit editions to turn on middle aged men and pre teens, we've been getting along just dandy.

If this thread is still going: I agree with you as well, J, (assuming i'm not the one to whom you were referring), but i think it's just a matter of semantics as well... is it basically just jerk-off material? Yeah... Would I call it porn? Not necessarily, just because of porn's negative connotations and societal stigma, and because society, in general, defines porn as something else... but otherwise, hell yeah.

Oct 27 06 12:54 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Stacy Leigh wrote:
Paramour Productions- I am pround to be in the same sentance as you, let alone the same genre (am I spelling genre correctly??) Is there a place for this type of photography? (and don't anybody answer with a pot-shot. I scare off easily)

I believe there is otherwise I wouldn't be spending my time on it.  We'll talk more next week over a Rare Burger, but yeah I think so...

Oct 27 06 12:55 am Link

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Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

Not at all I dig Ransom!  But I don't think I'm getting across what I'm trying to say, which makes perfect sense because the thoughts are not really clear in my mind yet - so I suppose I can't really express them well yet...

No, no I understand you completely.  i just don't agree with some of your points.  And that's okay.  Because I'm  smart enough, I'm good enough, and dammit, people like me.  Or at least my glamour pics.

Oct 27 06 12:55 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

And Stacy I like your photos; you should talk to "f16photo" he's been wondering what said-glamour shots would look like shot by a woman...

Oct 27 06 12:56 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

MadamePsychosis wrote:

If this thread is still going: I agree with you as well, J, (assuming i'm not the one to whom you were referring), but i think it's just a matter of semantics as well... is it basically just jerk-off material? Yeah... Would I call it porn? Not necessarily, just because of porn's negative connotations and societal stigma, and because society, in general, defines porn as something else... but otherwise, hell yeah.

A rose by any other name...


And no my dear, you aren't one of the models.

Oct 27 06 12:56 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

Dayumn this thread's got STAYING-POWER.

Oct 27 06 12:58 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Ransom J wrote:

You're LOVING every minute of this aren't you Bill?

Lil' bit... Lil' bit..

Oct 27 06 12:58 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

W.G. Rowland wrote:

Lil' bit... Lil' bit..

You owe me a beer.

Oct 27 06 12:59 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

MadamePsychosis wrote:
If this thread is still going: I agree with you as well, J, (assuming i'm not the one to whom you were referring), but i think it's just a matter of semantics as well... is it basically just jerk-off material? Yeah... Would I call it porn? Not necessarily, just because of porn's negative connotations and societal stigma, and because society, in general, defines porn as something else... but otherwise, hell yeah.

Not to sound crass, but since this point keeps coming up....

I don't jerk off to glamour.  None of it.  I look at it, and can stare at beautiful images of beautiful women for hours on end.  I may even fantasize about it.  But I never jerk off to it.

I do jerk off to porn, quite frequently these days, actually....

I like both, but I prefer to shoot glamour.

So I guess, I see a difference between the two, because they serve a different purpose for me as an end user?????

Oct 27 06 01:00 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

MadamePsychosis wrote:
Dayumn this thread's got STAYING-POWER.

I'm being made out like  I'm the revolutionary voice of Glamour, glammer and gla'mour' photographers every where underwraps though lol.  If you had ANY idea the number of messages I'm been getting in AMEN's and KUDOS, and FIGHT THE POWERS. LOL.  It's hilarious.  I had no idea that there were THAT many glamour shooters fed up with the holier than thou posturing of the fashion and arty types on here.

Oct 27 06 01:02 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

Paramour Productions wrote:
Ok see, I don't jerk off to glamour.  None of it.  I look at it, and can stare at beautiful images of beautiful women for hours on end.  I may even fantasize about it.  But I never jerk off to it.

I do jerk off to porn, quite frequently these days, actually....

I like both, but I prefer to shoot glamour.

So I guess, I see a difference between the two, because they serve a different purpose for me as an end user?????

yeah, i agree with you too.  the point of both is to AROUSE.. and most people have no imagination and want to jerk off to what arouses them.  ;-)  i like to just dream myself.

Oct 27 06 01:03 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

Not to sound crass, but since this point keeps coming up....

I don't jerk off to glamour.  None of it.  I look at it, and can stare at beautiful images of beautiful women for hours on end.  I may even fantasize about it.  But I never jerk off to it.

I do jerk off to porn, quite frequently these days, actually....

I like both, but I prefer to shoot glamour.

So I guess, I see a difference between the two, because they serve a different purpose for me as an end user?????

Well i don't think anyone was accusing you of jerking off to glamour.  I don't jerk off to it either.  I also don't go to the strip club (I'm cheap).

But glamour is wank material for most of who VIEW it, not create it.  That's the point.

Oct 27 06 01:04 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

Ransom J wrote:
I'm being made out like  I'm the revolutionary voice of Glamour, glammer and gla'mour' photographers every where underwraps though lol.  If you had ANY idea the number of messages I'm been getting in AMEN's and KUDOS, and FIGHT THE POWERS. LOL.  It's hilarious.  I had no idea that there were THAT many glamour shooters fed up with the holier than thou posturing of the fashion and arty types on here.

You are a warrier:  How do you feel about crucifixion??? wink

Oct 27 06 01:04 am Link

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MelissaLynnette LaDiva

Posts: 50816

Leawood, Kansas, US

MadamePsychosis wrote:
Dayumn this thread's got STAYING-POWER.

I slipped it some Viagra.

Oct 27 06 01:05 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

Ransom J wrote:
Well i don't think anyone was accusing you of jerking off to glamour.  I don't jerk off to it either.  I also don't go to the strip club (I'm cheap).

But glamour is wank material for most of who VIEW it, not create it.  That's the point.

Great minds...

Oct 27 06 01:05 am Link

Model

scarletdiva

Posts: 551

Los Angeles, California, US

Melissa Lynnette wrote:
I slipped it some Viagra.

Uh-oh... it's getting on its years... isn't Viagra dangerous for men over 60?  or threads over 380?

Oct 27 06 01:06 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

MadamePsychosis wrote:

You are a warrier:  How do you feel about crucifixion??? wink

In small doses and black latex it's pretty fun. smile

Oct 27 06 01:06 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Ransom J wrote:

Well i don't think anyone was accusing you of jerking off to glamour.  I don't jerk off to it either.  I also don't go to the strip club (I'm cheap).

But glamour is wank material for most of who VIEW it, not create it.  That's the point.

LOL, I just came from a strip club...  Going to be shooting a new Hungarian girl, wait till you see her...

Oct 27 06 01:07 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Paramour Productions wrote:

LOL, I just came from a strip club...  Going to be shooting a new Hungarian girl, wait till you see her...

I just can't do it.  I was born and raised in Vegas.  You'd think gambling and strip clubs would be in my blood.  But i sooooooo have better things to do with my money.

Oct 27 06 01:08 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Fuckin' A, my folks live in Henderson (Green Valley Ranch) I flew back from Vegas on the Monday night redeye.....

By the way, I want to be clear about something, when I talk about raising the level of glamour, I'm not suggesting that all of it sucks.  I'm not even saying that most of it that is used commercially (magazines, ads, webwork) sucks.  I'm talking about the level of glamour that you see from a lot of shooters frequenting sites like this....

Oct 27 06 01:13 am Link

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Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Paramour Productions wrote:
Fuckin' A, my folks live in Henderson (Green Valley Ranch) I flew back from Vegas on the Monday night redeye.....

By the way, I want to be clear about something, when I talk about raising the level of glamour, I'm not suggesting that all of it sucks.  I'm not even saying that most of it that is used commercially (magazines, ads, webwork) sucks.  I'm talking about the level of glamour that you see from a lot of shooters frequenting sites like this....

Well  then raise the level of ALL photography then because most of the fashion and art on here sucks donkey testicles as well.

Oct 27 06 01:19 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Ransom J wrote:

Well  then raise the level of ALL photography then because most of the fashion and art on here sucks donkey testicles as well.

Yeah, I know, but since I don't shoot that I don't really care about them, dig?

Oct 27 06 01:21 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

You know what, you're right, fuck everyone.  I'll just worry about me....

Oct 27 06 01:22 am Link

Photographer

Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Paramour Productions wrote:
You know what, you're right, fuck everyone.  I'll just worry about me....

Ahhhhhhhh BRISK!!!


Best quote in the whole thread!

Oct 27 06 01:23 am Link

Photographer

Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22234

Stamford, Connecticut, US

Ransom J wrote:

Ahhhhhhhh BRISK!!!


Best quote in the whole thread!

LMAO!!!

Oct 27 06 01:24 am Link