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diffrnce between "fine art nude" & "artistic nude"
I don't see such a difference ... is there any? Oct 14 06 10:06 am Link I think the difference is that Fine Art does not have to involve nudity. Oct 14 06 10:10 am Link yes, but i mean in the case that the fine art picture is a naked person... i'm asking because i see people considering it different.... (?) Oct 14 06 10:13 am Link i think you should just call it "nude." Let other people call it art. If you call your own work art- its kinda pretentious, dontcha think? Oct 14 06 10:14 am Link "Fine art" means that the photographer believes that their work is really good - hence the pretension of "fine." "Artistic nude" means more along the lines of, "well, I'm trying." mjr. Oct 14 06 10:14 am Link Marcus J. Ranum wrote: maybe you're right... Actually "ART", "MUSE" etc are very strongs word to apply to your own work, aren't they? Oct 14 06 10:17 am Link An artistic nude is more about the face and the "human". To me it's like glamour minus the sexual tone - it could be soft and pretty or hard edged. Fine art is more about form, figure, shapes, shadows, a real message, etc. It's a little less focused on the model herself (or himself). Oct 14 06 10:24 am Link Try approaching a gallery with a portfolio of "nudes," of "artistic nudes," and of "fine art nudes" and see which they're more willing to look at. Prepare two sets of business cards. On one, state that you shoot "weddings, portraits, and nudes." On the other, state that you shoot "weddings, portraits, and fine art nudes." See which one gets you more work. Shoot identical photos for two intimate portrait clients. Tell one it's a "fine art nude." Tell the other it's a "nude." See which one frames it and hangs it on her bedroom wall and which one asks to reshoot it. Find a pair of twins. In seperate conversations, tell one "that dress really compliments your beautiful figure." Tell the other "that dress really shows what your hot body is made for." See which one takes is as a compliment and which one is insulted. Pretentious or not, failing to call your work art can make or break you from a marketing perspective. It doesn't matter whether or not there's a difference between nudes, artistic nudes, and fine art nudes. All that matters is how the client wants to be spoken to. Oct 14 06 10:39 am Link Tim Hammond wrote: Wow- why dont we all just shoot weddings, babies, and products . . . for that matter, why dont we all just become bankers, accountants, and financial planners- oh yeah- we have a soul. Oct 14 06 10:44 am Link Several hundred dollars, on average. Oct 14 06 10:46 am Link so, art is the place where you can be pretentious and get away with it? Oct 14 06 10:46 am Link silly question--if you love your work, who cares what people call it? Oct 14 06 10:50 am Link And then there is also - Damn Fine Art! - Which is mostly erotic nude. Oct 14 06 10:54 am Link Jose Luis wrote: Is false modesty less "soulfull" than pretentiousness? I'm not suggesting anyone give up their integrity. An honest person can present the same piece in a manner that says "take it or leave it" or in a manner that says "I'm proud of my work." Being too "pure" to call your work art is just as pretentious as calling everything you shoot art. Oct 14 06 10:56 am Link Fine Art Nude is usually black and white. Artistic nude is in color. Oct 14 06 10:57 am Link Scott Harrill wrote: lol Oct 14 06 10:58 am Link Tim Hammond wrote: Oct 14 06 11:03 am Link exactly!!! its all about the perception of your "audience" ---know who you are marketing to---d Oct 14 06 11:06 am Link e-string wrote: Very well put. I am all about form, figure and shape. Oct 14 06 11:08 am Link Marcus J. Ranum wrote: Took the words right out of my mouth. Oct 14 06 11:15 am Link Artistic nude - is an album in your nightstand - "Oh look here are nekkid pictures of your mom!" Fine Art nude - is framed and hangs on the bedroom wall - "Oh look who is the nekkid lady on the wall?" Oct 14 06 11:16 am Link Perfect Pixels wrote: Well... I'm not talking about cleavage or a flat tummy. I'm talking about figure modeling, which is a part of fine art. Like this: https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=616057 (18+) Oct 14 06 11:20 am Link Let us not forget the southern version of "fine art nude" = "friggin Neeked" sorry, couldn't resist. Oct 14 06 11:21 am Link I don't see why so many of you have all this baggage associated with the terms. Some people want to be able to differentiate between genres, so this is how it's done. Oct 14 06 11:22 am Link IMHO I don't think there is a finite difference. Fine art nude sounds more expensive so you can ask a little more for a print... Oct 14 06 11:24 am Link One of the main differences: Fine art nudes - almost always lots of shadow Artistic nude - usually not so much Oct 14 06 11:28 am Link well, how about this - Fine Art Nudes - you print on nice paper Artistic - you print on ok paper Nudes - you can print and iron on a tee shirt Oct 14 06 11:29 am Link You can take artistic nudes with a cellphone. I know I have seen plenty here. A Fine Art photographer should have better credentials (as well as better equipment) and better results. Just my $.02 Oct 14 06 11:30 am Link Gary Melton wrote: *headdesk* Oct 14 06 11:31 am Link e-string - you not only look great, you are a real gamer and obviously not afraid of the elements... I guess livin in MN makes you hardy and brave! Wonderful port. Oct 14 06 11:32 am Link Fozzy wrote: Hyundai vs. Spyder. Oct 14 06 11:36 am Link These discussions are guaranteed to stalemate when there's a European involved. Oct 14 06 11:38 am Link Jeff Marsh wrote: Thank you. Actually I hate the cold! LOL. The worst stuff I have braved isn't even in my portfolio here - I've had to lie in snow and ice with my feet in a creek that was still icing out! Oct 14 06 11:39 am Link I've always felt the distinction was a marketing ploy... If it's fine art a wealthy patron will hang it in their house. How much stuff in galleries, museums.... was never intended to be "fine" art. But a curators stamp of approval makes it so....and infinitely increases it's value. If curators,museums,gallery owners weren't so gutless, we'd have far more erotic fine art being displayed. Oct 14 06 11:54 am Link D. Brian Nelson wrote: When this conversation stops going around in circles and comes to a conclusion, all that matters in the end is.... WHAT ARE YOU SAYING AS AN ARTIST? Oct 14 06 12:02 pm Link Fozzy wrote: I don't think "art" is a stretch, for most people. When you call your work "art" it's then a matter of whether it's any good or not. One of my friends is an artist whose work I can't stand but he's very pleased with it and so are some others. I don't think (in spite of what the academics say!) that "art" is something that's susceptible to definition or establishment through a committee. I'd say a urinal stuck on a wall in a gallery is "art", etc. Screw the academics! They argue about art theory because they're not creative, themselves. Oct 14 06 12:16 pm Link I like that term. Next time I try to book a model I will tell her it's for "pretentious nudes" and I'll see if she's more or less interested. mjr. Oct 14 06 12:17 pm Link I think that "I need to update my site with some Fine Art Nudes" sounds much better than "I need some more T&A for my website". You can interpret both the same if you have a mind to, but they can look totally different when you see the portfolio. Oct 14 06 02:28 pm Link Oct 14 06 02:32 pm Link edit: 1ce was enough Oct 14 06 02:32 pm Link |