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Primox Studios
Posts: 342
Madrid, Madrid, Spain
Chyvonne Amara wrote:
Then stop writing in my thread... hahaa, I am going to delete this thing anyway Thanx for all the responses ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! sorry...
Photographer
Photography by Ed Selby
Posts: 418
BALL GROUND, Georgia, US
Chyvonne Amara wrote:
I'm in non-belief of your failure at trying to insult me because I offended... what... a friend of yours? Either way, I've had no problem getting work... I've had to turn offers down because of my job... Runway... I could do it with ease, Fashion... PFT, I will design my own clothes, market myself, commercial, Already been in three, anything else u wish to add? Advice is an attempt at offense? I am very adept at offending people. Had I wanted to offend you, you would be offended. That was not my intent. Doug is not a "friend". He is a colleague, a teacher, and someone whose work I admire and respect. Tell you what, I'll make you a deal - you quit posting asking for advice, and I can PROMISE that no one will offer you any. Deal? Oh, and please, update your profile with images that aren't snapshots, please. And change "no experience" to "very experienced". Seems you know more than others here. Your expertise on modeling will be very beneficial to others.
Model
Chyvonne Amara
Posts: 43
Washington, Arkansas, US
Ed Selby wrote: Advice is an attempt at offense? I am very adept at offending people. Had I wanted to offend you, you would be offended. That was not my intent. Doug is not a "friend". He is a colleague, a teacher, and someone whose work I admire and respect. Tell you what, I'll make you a deal - you quit posting asking for advice, and I can PROMISE that no one will offer you any. Deal? Oh, and please, update your profile with images that aren't snapshots, please. And change "no experience" to "very experienced". Seems you know more than others here. Your expertise on modeling will be very beneficial to others.
Model
Chyvonne Amara
Posts: 43
Washington, Arkansas, US
Ed Selby wrote: Advice is an attempt at offense? I am very adept at offending people. Had I wanted to offend you, you would be offended. That was not my intent. Doug is not a "friend". He is a colleague, a teacher, and someone whose work I admire and respect. Tell you what, I'll make you a deal - you quit posting asking for advice, and I can PROMISE that no one will offer you any. Deal? Oh, and please, update your profile with images that aren't snapshots, please. And change "no experience" to "very experienced". Seems you know more than others here. Your expertise on modeling will be very beneficial to others. this is foolishness... let me end this... You suck and thats the end of it
Model
Chyvonne Amara
Posts: 43
Washington, Arkansas, US
Primox Studios wrote:
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! sorry... Don't be sorry, shyt was funny
Photographer
Michael Kirst
Posts: 3231
Los Angeles, California, US
If you pose next to a landmark or building sometimes it lessens the effect of such large mammories. Here is an example of what I mean...
Photographer
wishingtree photography
Posts: 1042
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
my view...it's all good...and it's all about being proportionate.
Photographer
Benjamin Snyder
Posts: 59
Tempe, Arizona, US
I don't understand how you can ask for an opinion, and then get pissed off because you are getting honest feedback. This has all pertained directly to what was asked. There is no reason for anyone to get upset just because it is not what they want to hear.
Photographer
Photography by Ed Selby
Posts: 418
BALL GROUND, Georgia, US
Benjamin Snyder wrote: I don't understand how you can ask for an opinion, and then get pissed off because you are getting honest feedback. This has all pertained directly to what was asked. There is no reason for anyone to get upset just because it is not what they want to hear. You must be new.
Photographer
Benjamin Snyder
Posts: 59
Tempe, Arizona, US
Not new, just in shock that I feel like I am dealing with a high school pissing match every time anyone has a conversation that is the least bit personal.
Model
Chyvonne Amara
Posts: 43
Washington, Arkansas, US
Chyvonne Amara wrote: Which are preferrable for a shoot... Big or small or medium... I mean... Which look better... Naturally? Thats what was asked.... I didn't ask people if I would do good in a fashion show, or runway, or print... none of that, I simply said which is preferrable for a shoot... thats it, and...
Photographer
Benjamin Snyder
Posts: 59
Tempe, Arizona, US
since you did not specify, it is natural to answer for all
Model
Chyvonne Amara
Posts: 43
Washington, Arkansas, US
Benjamin Snyder wrote: since you did not specify, it is natural to answer for all haha, you must talk alot
Photographer
Doug Lester
Posts: 10591
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Chyvonne Amara wrote:
You're just dumb and close minded, fucc the honesty part of it... Cuz I got some for that ass too! My body looks far more better than yours or any model you've dealt with, I eat, I exercise and I call it day...U? "fucc the honesty part of it". Yes indeed, "fucc" any sort of honesty on a modeling and photography forum. You asked an opinion and I gave you one based on more than fifty years of photography and as a retired commercial photographer. Your response is why I so rarely reply to forum questions. You publicly asked for opinions. You got one and didn't like it, so you replied with an insulting post; "You're just dumb and close minded, fucc the honesty part of it... Cuz I got some for that ass too!". Yes, I like that thought out response! Since you seem to have overlooked my point and keyed only on a couple of words, my point was that breast reduction is major surgery, far more serious than breast augmentation. It also leaves many more scars. Your 7 inch difference between breast and waist size is good, as I said before. Reducing the breast to a smaller size would ruin that proportion. But do whatever you want, whatever you wish to do, you will anyway. But next time you ask for opinions, let us know what you want that opinion to be.
Model
Ximena Barreto
Posts: 670
Monterey, California, US
Michael Pandolfo wrote: You can never go wrong with "proportionate" or is it "proportional" ? Ok it might be Starbucks time. thats true i have big boobs but i look proportionate!!! i was thinking in a reduction too but i have big hips so i cant do that!! and looking at ur pics i think if u get a reduction u'll look weird because ur bone structure!!
Model
Kali Doom
Posts: 136
Nashville, Arkansas, US
Michael Kirst wrote: If you pose next to a landmark or building sometimes it lessens the effect of such large mammories. Here is an example of what I mean...
Wow..look at that girl's brea....HOLY CRAP! IS THAT THE SPACE NEEDLE?!??!?!?!!?
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
FKVPhotoGraphics wrote: Let me ask you a question.....I did look at your port.....you consider yourself a plus size model.....which looks fine to me....I'd throw my shrimp on your barbie anyday......but it seems that body shape has alot to do with where you are from....I have noticed when it comes to Aussies.....they like their women top heavy and full figured.....while in other parts of the world.....for example , France, the women preferred there are very slender and small to medium on top.... Or am I totally wrong and just love your photos because you're blonde and gorgeous.... Thanks for your comments, I appreciate them I don't really consider myself plus size anymore, I've lost 10 kilos in the last 8 months and am now a happier size 10, size 12 on top. I'm realistic enough to know I'm still not small enough for runway or most editorial fashion work but I'm also not big enough for plus size modeling anymore. I recently spoke with two modeling agencies who specialise in plus size models and both told me the same thing -I was sitting on the cusp of plus size and regular size and should either lose weight or gain some because it could go either way. So it's a debatable issue, it seems Australia does seem to prefer bigger girls, although it's like any country - no one will ever agree on one type. Big boobs are very popular but so is a small waistline so it can be awkward trying to put the two together...although the mens mags don't seem to struggle much hehe. Every country seems to specialise in a different style of model and you're right in commenting on Australia's being bigger, which is a great relief because I love my curves and I'd hate to get rid of them! The only other thing I'll say on this thread about the original issue is that I'm really disappointed in the way the OP has reacted to the helpful advice she has been given. These forums give you the opportunity to learn from people with much more experience and expertise and by abusing them and choosing to ignore their advice, you learn absolutely nothing. I can't tell you how to think or react but I can promise you that if you put your emotions aside and really try to understand what is being said, you will learn so much more from it.
Model
Michelle Renee
Posts: 1073
Los Angeles, California, US
I started reading this thread with curiousity and interest because the OP and I are the same height and weight. (Though are stats are extremely different, and mine are accurate within an inch on all) I have often considered a reduction for cosmetic purposes more than any other reason, but because my chest gives me more of a waist, lol, I have kept it. At a size 16, I do get work, though I am going to make an attempt to get down to a 14. At 190, I am "heavy," but I am still within the range of plus size modeling. I do get alot of messages regarding topless shoots, which I currently do not do, but I can understand why my chest can be a focal point. When I was a size 10/12 2 or 3 years ago, I still was a 40DDD with a 31 inch waist. At that time I did look more out of proportion, and that was the time I truly considered the reduction route. As for the OP, if she has a 39" bust, it would mean she wears a 34DD, or a 32F, both of which seem unlikely, (I would think her band size to be at least a 38) so perhaps her measurements are off a bit, as I do not think she is a 38A! I also think that when a post such as this is made that the OP could be a bit more gracious or choose not to comment if they do not like responses. I think using a bit of class goes a long way.
Model
Dakota Jane
Posts: 14
Ventura, California, US
Curt Burgess wrote: It's a little peculiar that you're talking about "an entire network for heavier models" and then in the next sentence say that 190 doesn't make her heavy. Ok, so 190 isn't "heavy." What is? I agree, if you want to model, your going to have people telling you about all your flaws in detail. 190 is heavy, but I don't think that has much to do with how she feels about her breasts. I've seriously considered breast enlargment, even though I've never had any complaints from photogs. Bottom line- do it for you. Confidence comes through in pictures.
Model
Caroline Ann Martin
Posts: 1736
Williamsport, Pennsylvania, US
Doug Lester wrote: OK, some honesty here. Your profile shows you are 190 pounds and 39-32-41. That means you are very heavy for modeling, but are well proportioned, with a very acceptable 7 inch difference between breast and waist. My advice is, if you considering breast reduction surgery, which is far more serious surgery than breast enlargement, for personal reasons, then go for it. But if you are considering it for modeling purposes, in my opinion it would be a mistake. For modeling purposes, overall weight reduction would help you much more. Jobs for 190 pound female models are limited. Add to this that if you lose weight, your breasts will get smaller. (And it doesn't matter if you've always had large breasts or not.) (speaking from personal experience from losing 225 lbs - went from a 56 J to a 32 G. Had a breast lift which brought me down to a 32 DDD and the implants which just helped to give me a more natural shape (still a 32 DDD). And did I mention the ongoing MAJOR pain that I have had for the past 2 years since the surgeries??? It's not common, but CAN happen. Honestly, don't mess with plastic surgery unless there's a medical reason for it. Edit - just to add, it's my feeling that size is not an issue in determining the beauty of a person or whether that person should be modeling or not. Look at Shyly - she's an AMAZING model at 300 lbs. My point is simply to say that Doug is right in the sense that you want your body to be proportional. If you get a reduction, then your body would not be in proportion. Furthermore, a reduction DOES NOT remove fat (which is what breasts are comprised of mostly), it removes breast tissue. Should, in the future, you decide to lose weight, you will lose fat in your breasts and may very well end up with no breast mound at all.
Photographer
Satan Bug
Posts: 127
Hell, Nord-Trøndelag, Norway
itty bitty titty comittee
Photographer
Far West Imaging
Posts: 436
Laguna Hills, California, US
Chyvonne Amara wrote: Which are preferrable for a shoot... Big or small or medium... I mean... Which look better... Naturally? I prefer 2...per model that is. Size can vary.
Model
Chyvonne Amara
Posts: 43
Washington, Arkansas, US
Satan Bug wrote: itty bitty titty comittee hahaha
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S_D
Posts: 413
San Diego, California, US
Chyvonne Amara wrote: Which are preferrable for a shoot... Big or small or medium... I mean... Which look better... Naturally? I was thinkin of a reduction soon. LOl, I would think that natural Breast look more "Natural" Prefferable? All depends on who is paying.
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Nathan Strausse Studios
Posts: 101
New York, New York, US
You've got great breasts. They're natural.... I just like breasts, period. Don't listen to some people who think they know the "formula" for models or photography. Stay healthy, be safe, love yourself and all the rest will follow.
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DAntony
Posts: 95
Pasadena, California, US
They dont look out of the norm for me. Look at my port. I have some fabulous large breasted women there.
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