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The Polaroid Guy

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Grand Prairie, Texas, US

So, I'm doing a 10-minute presentation in my History of Photography class, and I chose to do "Photographer as Voyeur".

What I need your help with is finding sources that were AT ONE POINT IN PRINT that relate to my topic for wahtever reason.

My (immediate) stance on this project is that while photography was born out of a scientific purpose has since lent itself to voyeurs excising themselves through art and pornography. With images such as this one:

https://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0060195223.01.IN01._SS400_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1130223551_.jpg

I also have some from the same book shot through a keyhole which i thought was nice.

So, anyway, I need help finding sources for the research part of my project. (As I said, VERY IMPORTANT, it can e online now, but had to be in print at some point.)

I also need help 'focusing' the area of this wide open subject, and haven't decided quite which way to focus it yet.

So:
1) Ideas for focusing
2) Print sources for research.

GO.

Thanks guys.
adam

Oct 08 06 03:30 pm Link

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The Polaroid Guy

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Grand Prairie, Texas, US

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Oct 08 06 04:31 pm Link

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former_mm_user

Posts: 5521

New York, New York, US

go grab some helmut newton books - a few of them have articles in the front about voyeurism not just in his work, but elsewhere.

Oct 08 06 04:37 pm Link

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Brian Ziff

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Los Angeles, California, US

i'm just gonna watch this thread and see what happens.

Oct 08 06 04:39 pm Link

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former_mm_user

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New York, New York, US

Brian Ziff wrote:
i'm just gonna watch this thread and see what happens.

maybe you'll get to see b(.)(.)bies

Oct 08 06 04:46 pm Link

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The Polaroid Guy

Posts: 5606

Grand Prairie, Texas, US

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Oct 08 06 08:28 pm Link

Photographer

The Polaroid Guy

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Grand Prairie, Texas, US

sad

Oct 09 06 09:02 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Some research material:

Museum of Contemporary Photography article
The Furtive Gaze

http://www.mocp.org/exhibitions/2003/05 … ve_gaz.php

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Jan. 15 - Sept. 10, 2006
Contrasting Objectives:
Fifteen Pacific Northwest Photographers

http://www.whatcommuseum.org/pages/exhi … aphers.htm

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THE PHOTOGRAPHER IN FICTION
An annotated bibliography - with short synopses of books by title and or author

The majority of the novels listed contain a main, or important secondary, character who is a photographer. But I have also included, and noted, minor mentions of a photographer if I considered this character/event to be significant in some way. I have not included novels in which the plot revolves around photographs, as opposed to photographers. The use of images in novels (for blackmail, for example) would require a separate, and far more extensive, bibliography. Although it was not a part of my emphasis, I have included a few short stories featuring photographers I encountered during my readings.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/71 … ction.html

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Don't forget the photographer as depicted in film. IMDB comes up with 800 titles that answer to the key word "photographer." Some selected examples:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0054167/
Peeping Tom (1960)
Plot Outline: A young man murders women, using a movie camera to film their dying expressions of terror.

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0309061/
War Photographer (2001)
Plot Outline: Documentary about war photographer James Nachtwey, considered by many the greatest war photographer ever.

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0091886/
Salvador (1986)
Plot Summary: A journalist, down on his luck in the US, drives to El Salvador to chronicle the events of the 1980 military dictatorship

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0277434/
We Were Soldiers (2002)
Plot Outline: The story of the first major battle of the American phase of the Vietnam War and the soldiers on both sides that fought it.

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0105187/
The Public Eye (1992)
Plot Outline: Story of a 1940s photographer who specializes in crime and in not getting involved... until this time.
[based loosly on the life of Author [Weegee] Fellig

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0058448/
Paparazzi (1964)
Plot Summary: Paparazzi explores the relationship between Brigitte Bardot and groups of invasive photographers attempting to photograph her while she works on the set of Jean-Luc Godard's film Le Mépris (Contempt). Through video footage of Bardot, interviews with the paparazzi, and still photos of Bardot from magazine covers and elsewhere, director Rozier investigates some of the ramifications of international movie stardom, specifically the loss of privacy to the paparazzi.

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http://imdb.com/title/tt0060176/
Blowup (1966)
Plot Summary: A London fashion photographer frolics with young models, then meets the mysterious Vanessa Redgrave. He takes a photo in a park. Back in his darkroom as he enlarges it, he sees a suggestion of something in the photo he never noticed while taking it. Has a crime occurred?


Studio36

Oct 09 06 11:18 am Link

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Click Hamilton

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San Diego, California, US

Your premise is really weird, and the insinuation is insulting.

Outside of the useless points people try to make in schools now, this subject would totally flop in the real world. (near dead silence to this thread might be an indicator)

Call yourself a pig if you want, but don't wag your  finger of condescension at the rest of us like that.

The insidious propaganda that's rampant in schools sucks. How much is your tuition?

Oct 09 06 11:30 am Link

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studio36uk

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Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Photographer as voyeur? How voyeuristic is news work like this? Or street work in general? Pretty much so I think. Us news guys are as voyeuristic as they come... we intrude on pain; shame; grief;... even death... and as far as our editors are concerned "if it bleeds it leads."

Workmen rescue unconscious delivery driver from a chemical spill in his van.
©2004_Studio36
https://www.studio36.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rescue.jpg

Studio36

Oct 09 06 12:19 pm Link

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The Polaroid Guy

Posts: 5606

Grand Prairie, Texas, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
Your premise is really weird, and the insinuation is insulting.

Outside of the useless points people try to make in schools now, this subject would totally flop in the real world. (near dead silence to this thread might be an indicator)

Call yourself a pig if you want, but don't wag your  finger of condescension at the rest of us like that.

The insidious propaganda that's rampant in schools sucks. How much is your tuition?

WTF are you talking about?

Oct 09 06 12:36 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
WTF are you talking about?

Scroll up. You're the one who stated your hypothetical premise, then bumped it three times.

Your WTF question leads me to believe you are confusing your own kink issues with photography, and personifying photography as the reason for your kinks. Cute excuse, but it looks like vertigo to me.

Nothing personal. Just responding in an open forum.

Good luck with your presentation.

Oct 09 06 02:36 pm Link

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The Polaroid Guy

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Grand Prairie, Texas, US

Click Hamilton wrote:

Scroll up. You're the one who stated your hypothetical premise, then bumped it three times.

Your WTF question leads me to believe you are confusing your own kink issues with photography, and personifying photography as the reason for your kinks. Cute excuse, but it looks like vertigo to me.

Ummmm, no. But congratulations on jumping to conclusions.

Oct 09 06 04:21 pm Link

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studio36uk

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Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

And one of the great practitioners of social voyeurism [aside from Weegee]... Henri Cartier Bresson

https://www.francemag.com/frmag/assets/upload_images/articles/Cartier-bresson.nov03.jpg

And then there is always Eddie Adams:

https://www.staff.uni-mainz.de/lackmann/zeitzeugnisse/eddie_adams_iconic_1968_picture.jpg

Provoking different reactions, to be sure, but if either one of those well known shots could NOT be described as BOTH compelling AND voyeuristic nothing can.

Or perhaps Bob Capa's shot - Death of a Soldier - might do it for you.

https://www.happyblues.com/photography/images/robert_capa_death_of_a_loyalist_soldier_jpg.jpg

Or this one... a few more voyeurs in evidence besides only the one with the camera..

[img]faulty link removed[img]

So yes, photographers, at least those who can pry themselves out of a studio, are inherently voyeuristic... but they are not alone... they only make the temporal instant permanent. Or, as HCB would have it, they record the "decisive moment." A voyeur? Yes, of course and in it's original French root meaning>>> literally, one who sees, from Middle French, from voir to see, from Latin vidEre.

"None are so blind as those who will not see"

Studio36

Oct 09 06 04:36 pm Link

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Nathan Strausse Studios

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New York, New York, US

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