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Lack Of Professionalism @ TFP/TFCD Shoots
Note To Photographers: Just an observation here...Anyone else think it's pretty unprofessional to get treated like shit on a TFP/TFCD shoot? I've been on two so far, my first two from MM, and in both cases, the shooters were testing lights/equipment. I haven't been around very long, but I do know how this works. But isn't it a little juvenile to spend more than half the shoot talking about how you don't care what the model looks like for the test shots, and how you wish you had a "big-tittied blond" to shoot? You know, if you want to shoot a hot girl, test shots or not, why not call one? There's plenty here on-site, and I can spend my time doing other, more useful things... I don't need somebody to tell me how 'hot' I am for the entire time, (especially if it's not exactly true), but guys, be honest with me and with yourselves. I would much prefer it that way. Rant over! Oct 08 06 09:38 am Link Brother I'd be terrified NOT to treat you well. Oct 08 06 09:41 am Link DUDE... Ok, post number 3 for you so I will go easy. :-) TFP>>TFCD...is one thing.. TEST..hasnothing to do with lights.. This is not a "professional" site in nature. Though there are a lot of pros here. TFP..Bottom line..there are some great artist who know how to shoot and make it fun...and there are a ton of wannabes... You simply have to adjust your "CRAP-meter" to weed them out. Good luck and welcome to the mayhem.. V Oct 08 06 09:42 am Link Tony Lawrence wrote: LOL, Tony! I guess looking back, nerves could've been a big part of what was going on, hunh? After all, where most models worry about bringing an escort for a first-time shoot, shooters see me walk in and what?...They probably think THEY need an 'escort'! =grin= Oct 08 06 09:52 am Link Vance wrote: Thanks, Vance - I appreciate the shout-out and the "definitions." I'll have to make the right adjustments to my "CRAP-meter!" Oct 08 06 09:55 am Link Christopher Chase wrote: I'm surprised this guy was ANYTHING but nice. People that can lift small cars and Oct 08 06 09:57 am Link Tony Lawrence wrote: Crazy? Maybe, but I doubt it. An amateur? Definitely. But (luckily for him) I'm not one of these guys who goes on a rage bender when I have a hangnail. I don't roll that way; I figure you don't HAVE to bench press somebody who pisses you off, just because you can. Oct 08 06 10:10 am Link I treat every model I work with as if they were a mother, sister, daughter, father, son, or brother. In fact, that's pretty much how I live my life.....treating people with respect. Anyone who treats you badly...walk away from. This goes double for photographers. There are just too many out there for you to have to listen to their crap! By the way...best of luck to you in your career..  Oct 08 06 10:12 am Link Christopher Chase wrote: note to model: while the approach by most will be toward providing a professional element when shooting tfp, the practice itself is not really a process that is deemed to be professional. most often it does not require the same definition and standard in professional level work that carries satisfying requirement beyond just the individual participants. Oct 08 06 10:29 am Link You want professionalism? Hire one. Oct 08 06 10:31 am Link Wow that looks like you had some pretty rude "photographers". If all they need to test is lights and they are that rude to you tell them they can go buy a maniquin. If I am doing a "show up to the park" TFP and it is open invatation I don't care who shows up. I need to learn to make everyone look good, not just pretty blonds... if I'm actually casting for a TFP I'll be a bit more choosy and use someone who I want in my portfolio and not complain that I wanted someone else though. Clients well clients is what all this practice has been for so the clients will look great no matter what they look like, I will be able to shoot them and make them very happy with their images. Males are not as in demand as femals in modeling and older males evenless so, Your in a tough market. Oct 08 06 10:54 am Link I try to treat all models with respect and consideration ... sometimes this gets a model a little annoyed ("I'm a woman, not a fragile toy"). been bombed for opening a door once! ... oh, well. ... must admit: I -have- shown thoughtlessness and insensitivity a few times ... I tend to get "wrapped up" in how I am posing the model, seeing to the "set" of clothing, and arranging the lighting overall ... thus ignoring the models feelings and making her feel like some window dummy. ... NOT intentional, just "tunnel vision". ... and I apologized as soon as I recognized what I was doing. ... treat them well, provide bottled water and sodas, feed them lunch, say 'please' and "thank you". Oct 08 06 11:06 am Link |
