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are there other sites with more PAID WORK?
any suggestions for sites with more not nude paid work? omp maybe ?? Sep 15 06 06:47 am Link Actually, no there aren't. Sorry. -Don Sep 15 06 07:54 am Link Concentrate on strengthening and diversifying your portfolio before you worry about getting paid. Sep 15 06 08:03 am Link No, there's not a site, where there's photograhers waiting to pay models. Just keep searching, one will come across you. Maybe in a week, maybe 6 months from now. In the meantime, if you ONLY accept Paid, your Portfolio will not grow fast. Sep 15 06 08:21 am Link If by sites you mean agencies...yes...if you mean sites...then no. You're pretty much going to have to be an extraordinary model, or you're going to have to take off your clothes. Sep 15 06 08:33 am Link Keri, There is a site http://paidmodels.com that might be what you and others are looking for. However, I do not mean to be unkind, but I looked at your port and wondered why you think a photographer would pay you for a shoot? I think you are attractive, but I fail to see what you see as regards employing you as a model? Steve Sep 15 06 08:46 am Link Most of the sites I've seen have many of the same members, but some that are here, may not be there, and vice versa. If you really want to get paid, try to get signed by an agency.... Sep 15 06 08:53 am Link Clique7 Studios wrote: I kind of have to agree. You're a pretty girl and all...but I still don't think you'd get signed to an agency (not that I would either...that doesn't make you a bad model or anything) and agencies hire girls because they're going to be able to make money. If you can't get signed to an agency...you probably won't find many people to pay you to be clothed. Sep 15 06 09:01 am Link thanks lol... but i am not talking about an agency... i have had agencies want me to sign with them but that does not guarentee work and being in cleveland... you have to sign exclusively so that is not a choice. i am not looking for a photographer to pay me. i am looking for runway shows which i am in one for a bridal mag here in a few weeks and also print work. lol... Sep 15 06 09:07 am Link keri t wrote: Even if agencies are interested in signing you like you say...your portfolio isn't very good right now, and it doesn't showcase you as being the most extraordinary model I've ever seen. You really should be worrying about getting better shoots...not paid shoots...at least until the majority of your shots are of the quality of something you'd find in a magazine or photography book. Sep 15 06 09:35 am Link On one hand, all the sad negative posts in this thread so far are true to an extent, and in general. However, that's just the "normal" side of life (meaning common). It's like everyone who sits in traffic jams bumper to bumper during traffic time all their working lives. This road is not necessary. If you look around here and other places, you will see another more important undeniable truth: ANYONE can be a successful model if they have determination and character. Even Bob Randall could be a model if he wanted to ;-) In terms of "looks" we all have our strengths and weaknesses. The answer lies in building upon our strengths and avoiding our weaknesses, or turning our weaknesses into strengths. Success comes from identifying our resourceses and making them into who and what we are. It's about being clever and inventive, and about making a plan and applying ourselves. Success comes with identifying and finding our customers, turning it into a job or a project, solving problems and pushing it to completion to the extent we get paid and can collect our money. In short, it's a business. We have to be our own CEO's and approach our live plans as such, managing ourselves. Customers, clients, opportunities, etc., are everywhere around us. We just have to be able to see them and distill them into actions with results. 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. We simply have to put ourselves in the 10% category. Nobody is going to do it for us. With ambition and clever thinking, anyone can. The other 90% don't or can't see this, or they wait, or they follow, or they wannabee, or they sit around in forums and regurgitate what they read without ever closing enough sales to be able to buy a tank of gas. Regarding looks and portfolios: everyone has a beautiful side that can be opened up and displayed with clarity to the world. I've proven it to myself many times. My favorite challenges are when someone comes to me politely, seriously, and with ambition saying that nobody else will give them a photo shoot. Another way of looking at what to do with ourselves or with a model is to remember that everyone can be cast in a role for a movie. As photograpers and Art Directors, all we have to ask ourselves is how we would cast any particular person in an engaging and excellent role, then proceed to create the photos and presentation themes that have impact and purpose from there. Successful entrepreneurs are a very motley crew. So there. :-P Sage advice from The Legendary Click Hamilton www.pbase.com/click_hamilton Sep 15 06 09:48 am Link Let me help you undertand how most castings for advertising work. We get a project from an ad agency. The project calls for models, maybe it is one person, maybe it is a family, or a bunch of peers in business suites. We do not have the time or the resources to call any models directly. We will send an email or call a couple of modeling agencys who we know will produce the goods and we ask them for what we are looking for. We then hold a casting call and we look at and take pictures of all the possible talent. After that, we, the art director, the end client and maybe a few other people meeting and choose the stars. I only used models from sites like MM for testing or low to no budget stock shoots. Models who I have worked with from places like MM have been able to used the pictures to get signed by a good agency but it would be crazy-hard to actually cast from a place like this. Sincerely zave smith www.zavesmith.com Sep 15 06 10:04 am Link Click Hamilton wrote: I totally agree with everything you've said...but that's why I said the OP's a pretty girl, but that isn't really enough. It's not. And I don't really see anything extraordinary about her jumping out at me through her photos...yet. I really think her best bet is to get more experience and build a better portfolio first, and THEN worry about trying to find paid work. Sep 15 06 10:11 am Link Zave Smith wrote: concise and to a good point Sep 15 06 10:11 am Link Kaitlin Lara wrote: Yep. Sep 15 06 10:17 am Link keri t wrote: I think a lot of people are under the impression that small businesses (that would be you and me) can just put up a site on the internet, and business will flow to us. Sep 15 06 10:20 am Link I'll take the advice of the other posters here one step further and turn your question around. Why haven't *you* paid a really, really good photographer or two, along with a MUA and stylist, to get you some extraordinary shots? The sizzle sells the steak. Yes, experience is usually good, but rather than tell you to play the TFP lottery and hope you win some good pics, I'll say that if you want to advertise a paid service, you get good advertising materials. The shots in your portfolio aren't, for the most part, actively bad, but they're not good enough to justify spending money on you in a secondary market. Speaking of, I can't tell from your profile where you even live. Your advertising is not up to spec. Thread Highjack/Rant Yes, I know it impresses everybody to put "NY/LA/Paris/Tokyo" in your location, but unless you literally commute between them on a weekly basis, I don't care that you visit your family in NYC once a year at Christmas and might be available for a shoot on December 27th, or that you once had your picture taken in front of Tokyo Tower. I'll take it as a given that if I offer to fly a model to Paris, she'll probably take me up on it: you don't need to tell me that you'd love to do that. M Sep 15 06 10:26 am Link keri t wrote: Paid runway is just not going to happen for you in the midwest. Sep 15 06 10:27 am Link keri t wrote: I would say that most of the 'net is glamour/nude work.. Reason being is easier to reach a huge ammount of people with just one ad... and prices are WAY lower than an agency. As an example and a side note, one of my friends day rate for lingerie is $2k, what girl off these sites, gets paid $2k a day for nudes? Therefore, ppl who shoot nudes are not gonna go to agencies to hire girls for nude shoots, cuz they will pay out of the bootay.. so that is what the 'net is for! Sep 15 06 10:28 am Link keri t wrote: I am surprised that you say agencies in Cleveland require exclusive contracts. I am not doubting your word, but Cleveland is not even close to being New York, L.A., Chicago, or even Dallas or Atlanta, which are where the majority of paid modeling work will be found, with New York, of course, being the "Big Apple!" If you really want paid work, go to (in this order) New York, L.A, and Chicago. The competition is extreme, however, and few models do real well, financially. Sep 15 06 10:33 am Link Dax wrote: *pout* But...but...I have a cute butt Sep 15 06 10:35 am Link Stevens Photography wrote: Well try this... some nothing agency in Ohio, known only to the local Rotary club, has a girl that gets a chance at an agency in NYC... ect... but they have her on an exclusive representation contract. Guess who gets to negotiate for a buy out of that "exclusive" representation contract... or reps her as a mother agency for a split of the commissions she earns elsewhere? Sep 15 06 10:51 am Link studio36uk wrote: I'm at a loss to figure out your point. Sep 15 06 11:00 am Link Models have to understand that unless you have really compelling images. Why would photographers, etc. want to pay? Photographers often have limited imaginations we need to see that someone has what we want. That means having cool or interesting or beautiful or unusual work we can see. If its the same old same old, I think why bother. Paying a model for non nudes means she has to bring it. That means for example you don't repeat the same image three to four times unless those four images are fantastic. It means showing solid work and not average or below average images to people who have gotten used to seeing some of the best. This is often what happens for non nude in my mind at least. When I see a model who's asking for money and its not nude. I think to myself maybe I'll get the same boring crap she shows in her profile. Maybe thats not fair but people judge you by what you show not by what they Hope you may be able to do. This isn't a comment directed at the OP but a general one for models seeking money. Take a look at the photos you show, are they good. How do they compare to other models? If things aren't working then its time for a new plan. Sep 15 06 11:08 am Link Stevens Photography wrote: I believe...not positive, on alot of contracts, if you are exclusive, state that they are the mother agency. Therefore if you are signed by another agency, and get work. That the mother agency gets like 5% or 10%...So 25% or 50% of the second agency's profit... Sep 15 06 12:19 pm Link Give her a little break people. The photos on her port aren't that mind-shattering, no. But she's got some potential, am I right? Betcha I am! After all, the photographers who shot those pictures have a little bit of responsibility, too. Even though she may have decided what to use, we might reasonably think that the photos we didn't see, are not exactly walkaway winners either. And, as we all know and have heard about in roughly 4,203 threads - some folks do not want to take their clothes off (except for showers). I know I don't - but that is just to avoid making people around me start to retch and run away, of course. (Let's just say I'm not as cute as our model in question.) So go out and shoot with good photographers as much as you can, kiddo. Ignore all the gripes about tfp shoots, and do some, with the best photographers who will work with you. Then break down and pay a couple or three shooters who are better than your tfp people to create some top-end work for you. If you went to school to learn a trade - you would pay. Go to college to learn a profession - you would pay. Become a model - unless you are a miracle girl - you pay. And then, you oughta have a portfolio together that could bring you some paid work with clothes on. And who knows, by then you may even feel more comfortable with the beauty of the body that God gave you, and be able to manage yourself in a way that allows you to present it artistically - but not pornographically. Whatever. Get some more good photos. Good luck! Sep 15 06 12:36 pm Link Kaitlin Lara wrote: I do! Sep 15 06 12:40 pm Link The OP has a great look for product/commecial work. She needs to focus on a strong port and then get out there and market herself to agencies. My best, Tim Sep 15 06 12:45 pm Link |
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