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Should a photographer pay for a friend's travel?
Sep 11 06 06:58 am Link You are expecting too much. If the photographer/ad agent or whoever isn't trust worthy, then don't take the job. I am not sure why they would want to fly you down rather than get a local or Miami model. If you have the perfect look for a big paying job then great, if not it doesn't make sense and I would worry about other intentions. If they are trust worthy, then you go for paid work with travel paid. It is very uncommon to pay for an escort to fly down. Real agency models don't get it, so I would not expect it. If you can negotiate it, more power to you...but it might hold you back. Best of luck Michael Creagh http://michaelcreagh.com Sep 11 06 07:12 am Link You're wise to want your friend to accompany you, but you're definitely expecting too much if you want the client to cover your friend's expenses. After all, the friend isn't going to be allowed anywhere near the shoot, so why pay for their airfare? Escorts are not allowed at professional assignments unless they're the parent of an underage model, which you're not. The client, if legit, is going to have to stay within the budget provided him/her. Do your research on both the photographer and the advertising agency, then determine what it will cost to fly your friend down there and balance that against what they're offering to pay you for the job. If you only break even, it's probably not worth the trouble. Best wishes. Sep 11 06 07:12 am Link You're choosing to bring your friend, not the client. Do your homework on the agent to establish his legitimacy. If, after all the checks, everything is exactly as it should, and you still feel unable to make the journey alone, I would consider another career path, as you may be just too paranoid to be an effective model. Sep 11 06 07:16 am Link karisaaa wrote: Can you name one single business where it is commonplace for a company to reimburse short-term business travel for a "friend" traveling with you? Sep 11 06 08:48 am Link bang bang photo wrote: Ditto on this... Sep 11 06 08:53 am Link I'm thinking no. I agree with the other posters. . .not that my opinion is worth spit. ;-) If you're not comfortable shooting. . .don't go. Being a model "willing to travel" means going it alone a lot of the time. If you can't handle that. . .maybe traveling isn't a good thing right now. I dunno. Sep 11 06 09:08 am Link SimonL wrote: 100% agree with Simon. Sep 11 06 09:11 am Link Having lived in West Palm (Jupiter) for about 15 years, I know most of the agency principles there or could easily check out a new one. PM me if you want me to try that. I don't think it's likely any agency or commissioned shoot is going to fly your escort, so you might want to reconsider this type of work if you're unwilling to travel alone. Obviously, you should always check out the firm carefully before you do, however. Sep 11 06 09:18 am Link jmc wrote: As do I! Sep 11 06 09:21 am Link Should a what pay for what? Think about what you just asked and then get back to us. Sep 11 06 10:13 am Link Yes, it's business and he expects you to be able to travel alone on business. It's actually more reasonable for him to expect you to report for work on your own than for you to expect him to pay for your friend to tag along on your job. If he comes, it's entirely reasonable to expect him to be responsible for his own expenses. Sep 11 06 10:19 am Link karisaaa wrote: My god. This just illustrates how badly we need the escort Thread back! Sep 11 06 10:47 am Link This is a joke right? Sep 11 06 10:51 am Link I'll be the voice of dissension here .. I absolutely agree with you that he should pay for your "friend's" travel expenses. As a matter of fact, I think he should fly you both down FIRST CLASS, and put you up in the penthouse suite of a 5 star resort for a WEEK - so you guys can make a little vacation out of this whole thing  And if *I* was the so-called agent, I'd take the cost of these expenses right out of your pay - of course, you probably won't be getting paid much, since you haven't figured out that professional models don't 'travel with male friends' and they sure as hell don't have the audacity to ask that their companion's expenses be covered. Good Luck With That. ETA: not to be mean/rude, because you ARE a beautiful woman, however, your look is not 'exotic' or so spectacular that someone would need to fly you down - have you ever been to South Beach ? I'm thinking it's a hoax. Sep 11 06 10:58 am Link karisaaa wrote: You've either insulted a potential client, or answered your underlying question. All you have to do is figure out which one and you'll know the solution to your problem. He is all the way in West Palm Beach, FL and I am in Ct, so I would have to take a 3 hour plane ride to see him. No problem.. because he said he would pay for my travel expenses, however, he won't cover my male friend's expenses. I can't afford it, and neither can he. Does he honestly expect me to go alone? If he's legit, it's not that he "expects" you go go alone: he just doesn't care. You're a big girl. Put on your big-girl panties and deal. If he's not legit, then he actively wants you to come alone, I suspect. Either way, he has no incentive to pay for your friend's travel. Am I just expecting too much or should I somehow come up with the cash to cover all of my friend's expenses? That's not an "or" question. If you want your friend to come, you'll have to figure out how to pay for it. If you expect a client to cover a companion's traveling expenses, you're expecting too much. The issues are unrelated. Sep 11 06 11:01 am Link Just to gently put this in perspective: I don't know of any normal business that would routinely pay for travel of friends. Let's say I don't want to travel anywhere without my wife. Well, my client isn't going to pay for my wife's travel just because I'm uncomfortable being alone. They want my services. Other people are not important to them. This is new for you, so you don't know. But that's how it works. So if you're not comfortable going without your friend and can't afford it yourself, don't go. If you're just unsure, then get references and check on those references and then make your decision. Sep 11 06 11:18 am Link karisaaa wrote: I'm assuming you haven't voiced any of this nonsense to the advertising agent, because you are still being given the option to show up for the job.... Sep 11 06 11:23 am Link Fotografikos Imagery wrote: Wise??? Sep 11 06 11:34 am Link karisaaa wrote: When I pay models to come visit me from Chad, I pay for one friend, a parent, 2 goats, a village rep if they are from a small town, or their model manager escort. Additionally, I offer 2 passes at a local day spa, a facial for the escort/tribal rep, a free vet visit for the goats, unlimited porn for the parent if dad, a day long buffet for the mother. Sep 11 06 11:34 am Link karisaaa wrote: Look at your thread title again, then read your own post. Is this a photographer or an advertising agent? Huge difference. Sep 11 06 11:56 am Link *shakes head* This just has to be a joke. It just HAS to be. Sep 11 06 12:00 pm Link karisaaa wrote: I can't believe I just read this. I'm fairly sure that she's serious. I would have laughed and then told her to... I just wouldn't use a model that even asked. Sep 11 06 12:11 pm Link MEWanoDesigns wrote: I really do agree, this has to be a joke. No offense to the model but as it has been noted there are thousands of models down there locally so why go outside a prime area for models to find one. If the offer is real I'd be careful, very careful and perhaps do a little homework on this one. Sep 11 06 12:22 pm Link Gosh, I guess we all hurt Karissa's feelings  She sent me a nasty PM about how ugly all my models are & I have no room to talk So I'd say no, no joke Sep 11 06 08:49 pm Link No one bothered to mention that the OP removed her orignal post text. Thank goodness for quoting in replies! Sep 11 06 08:57 pm Link SLE Photography wrote: Well, I'm sure with that sense of entitlement she's got, she'll be posting "PAID ONLY!!!" casting calls before long...lol Sep 11 06 09:19 pm Link Joe Paul Studios wrote: I think she realized how badly she'd embarrased herself Sep 11 06 09:30 pm Link If he pays tho, I wanna be your friend. Just keep it in mind. Sep 11 06 09:33 pm Link In the OP's defense, I just wanna say maybe the photog/ad. agent -though surrounding by gorgeously, exotic local girls- maybe he is looking for a certain type that will fit his project? And felt that the OP is what he is looking for, Being this thing is legit...I'm always playing the devil's advocate, I just couldn't help to respond... Poor girl, poor poor girl..... But paying for one's escort? She is lucky that She was even offered a paid assignment Sep 11 06 09:51 pm Link MEWanoDesigns wrote: Um... check out her profile. Sep 11 06 09:53 pm Link Rajanni wrote: ...No offense to the OP... I was trying to say.... You know..... OH heck, I am going to get myself into trouble in here...To the OP, I hope everything turns out right for you Sep 11 06 09:55 pm Link SLE Photography wrote: Come on.... share Sep 11 06 10:57 pm Link Raquel Gonzalez wrote: I think it's a hoax too. For the same reason you do. Sep 11 06 10:59 pm Link Ransom J wrote: Or maybe Gina??? Sep 11 06 11:14 pm Link SLE Photography wrote: Curt Burgess wrote: I'll PM it to you. I don't need to have to call the cops 'cause I'm being harrassed again. Sep 12 06 12:16 am Link SLE Photography wrote: SLE Photography wrote: I'll PM it to you. I don't need to have to call the cops 'cause I'm being harrassed again. aww, come on now...share please! Sep 12 06 12:18 am Link --------------NO------------ Sep 12 06 12:20 am Link ahhh no, never going to happen. Sep 12 06 12:26 am Link just so you got it, no , no ,no, this is unreasonable and unprofessional, if you doubt the dudes work do not go. Sep 12 06 12:27 am Link |
...Okay I'll go now
