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Just added no show percentages to my profile
Though I am not "outing" any models, I'm going to keep a running tab of no show percentages on my profile. Does anyone think this is a bit high for the past three months? I schedule firm commitments, follow up a couple days before to confirm and then am left sitting, waiting. Some call right at the last minute, most don't and never respond to emails. Crazy..... being in the Northwest, the talent pool is pretty small.... time to start using agencies more I guess. "Current No Show percentage on shoots the past three months is 55%. Ladies, this is way higher than it should be. If you are serious, I really am interested in shooting, if you are not, don't waste everyone's time." Aug 28 06 10:38 am Link My no-show percentage for the last 3 months is 0%. Maybe you're working with the wrong agencies? Aug 28 06 10:44 am Link I'll be interested to hear if adding this information makes an appreciable difference in the future. I tend to think that adding reprimands to one's profile does more harm than good, no matter how justified/understandable, but I may be wrong about that. Keep us updated! Aug 28 06 10:46 am Link Maybe it's the time of year... I had 0% no-shows up until recently. Very irritating and unprofessional. A certain Minnesota model really left me hanging on a photoshoot with, literally, millions of dollars of cars and no model. Let's just say I wasn't very pleased. Thomas Aug 28 06 10:47 am Link I think my problem is not working with agencies.... Since most of my work was swimwear related this year and I shoot at public beaches, maybe it scared some of them off. Aug 28 06 10:47 am Link How are you booking shoots and communicating with them, prior to the shoot? Proper communication can reduce no shows, but nothing eliminates all of it except deposits  Aug 28 06 10:48 am Link By posting this IMO you are giving permision to other models not to show in that you are stating less than half of you models do not show up and that this is common. Aug 28 06 10:51 am Link Yeah, maybe you are right about giving others permission if I state a percentage. I scheduled two shoots yesterday and both were no shows and I guess I am a bit frustrated. Just wanted to add a few more images to my book before heading to the Bikini Jam in Puerto Vallarta. I do know there are models there who are interested in shooting, at least. Aug 28 06 10:57 am Link I know this topic is covered 'ad nauseum' but this is my experience: I had a high percentage of no shows when working with "internet models" UNTIL I changed my process. I created shoot plans - little drawn up outlines of the projects I was working on sometimes with illustrations (I can draw - yay!) and then I met with the models who were interested in working on those projects. Usually they came to me but sometimes I found one I thought would work well and I contacted her. Sometimes models didn't show up for the meeting but in those cases I enjoyed my coffee, read a book and was thankful I didn't waste my time putting a shoot together. I have NOT had a single model not show up on me since I've started doing that. If they show up for the meeting they show up for the shoot. The meeting is about finding out how they relate to the project concept, explaining the arrangement (TFP is not as simple or clearcut as many think and there are many interpretations of it - heck "paid" is up to some negotiation and interpretation) and talking through the plan. This process insures that for the most part the model and I are on the same page - we know what we are doing and everything is clear ahead of time. This process doesn't work for everybody for a variety of legitimate reasons but it has worked for me for what I was doing. Aug 28 06 11:14 am Link Sounds like a great idea! Tell everyone that models often bail on you. That'll really bring them in. I can't see a single up-side to this strategy of yours (other than allowing you to blow off steam). What, exactly, do you realistically hope to accomplish? Aug 28 06 12:50 pm Link Photofurnace wrote: You took the words right out of my mouth. This is very similar to what I do when working with a model regardless of tfp or paid. An initial shoot consult to discuss the shoot, wardrobe, makeup and creative ideas involves the model and reduces no shows. I've never had a model show up for the initial meeting and then no-show the shoot. I schedule the meeting at a Starbucks that I would be frequenting even without a meeting. So if they no-show the meeting, I'm not out a huge block of time and I know to mark them off for any future contact. Aug 28 06 12:59 pm Link Scheduling a meeting sounds like a perfect option and yeah, I am blowing off steam, it's irritating to say the least. Removed from my profile, thanks for letting me see the error in my ways... happy shooting!!! Aug 28 06 01:08 pm Link Terry Divyak wrote: Jeesh! Consider yourself lucky. Aug 28 06 01:13 pm Link Whats not talked about is how this affects photographers and their creative process. First many of us spend so much energy and thought trying to get models to show. This is time and energy that could be used for the shoot itself. Second when you have a plan and a ideal it goes to waste when models don't show besides also being a blow to our egos. Without knowing whats going on it often leads to self doubt and anger or confusion. Well since I have a degree from the Feel good about yourself, University, heres the deal. Its not you and theres just nothing you can do about no show, no call models. Ask for a confirmation call before you meet. Ask for a deposit before a shoot date allow escorts even paying means very little. There are just going to be models who won't show. They have little invested in this and they could care less about being rude. When you find attractive dependable models WORK them. I mean shoot them until you drop your camera from exhaustion. Treat these gems to lunch or dinner and show that you appreciate them. In many cases the word will get around and more models will show. Repeat the process. If that means you only get two shoot with a few models then thats the deal. Aug 28 06 01:22 pm Link |
